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An inauspicious start to the season, but also a chance to now get right against the perpetually bad Angels.

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The guy starting for the Angels has pitched a total of 12 games in the minors if I'm reading his history correctly.  They certainly do have an interesting draft and development strategy.

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3 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Was ready for baseball and it a 2:00 start 🙄🙄

I'm stuck in the office (on a legit beautiful game no less).  Now I've got something to watch tonight with the porch opened up.  

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7 minutes ago, The_Achiever said:

I'm stuck in the office (on a legit beautiful game no less).  Now I've got something to watch tonight with the porch opened up.  

Yea just saw it 640, not 2

The 2 is a replay, but you're right we got baseball tonight

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36 minutes ago, mul21 said:

The guy starting for the Angels has pitched a total of 12 games in the minors if I'm reading his history correctly.  They certainly do have an interesting draft and development strategy.

Get used to it, because if the owners have their way, it will become much more common in the future. 

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Just now, CubinNY said:

Get used to it, because if the owners have their way, it will become much more common in the future. 

You don't see other teams doing this and the Angels are notorious for debuting guys very quickly after they were drafted, so this feels like a pretty Angels specific thing and not some widespread phenomenon.  I mean, teams that have a good D&D program and are winning/don't have huge holes aren't going to rush guys who aren't ready to MLB.  The Angels have neither of those going for them.

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1 minute ago, mul21 said:

You don't see other teams doing this and the Angels are notorious for debuting guys very quickly after they were drafted, so this feels like a pretty Angels specific thing and not some widespread phenomenon.  I mean, teams that have a good D&D program and are winning/don't have huge holes aren't going to rush guys who aren't ready to MLB.  The Angels have neither of those going for them.

The owners want to do away with low A leagues, drafting high schoolers, and a bunch of other cost-saving measures. 

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44 minutes ago, mul21 said:

The guy starting for the Angels has pitched a total of 12 games in the minors if I'm reading his history correctly.  They certainly do have an interesting draft and development strategy.

For whatever it's worth he had a good spring 

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Two things are likely going to happen.

1) Angels starter Ryan Johnson is taking a no-hitter into the 7th inning. 

2). Ryan Johnson is going back to the minors next week and will never be seen or heard of again. 

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Owners are cheap and would love to save any money they can (I.E. see how they handled the MiLB side of things in 2020). But I also don't think this is just an owner cost cutting move. Players out of HS can earn NIL money now and if you can go to college and get paid, it's a win for these kids in many ways. UK SS Tyler Bell passed up second round money from the Rays to go play in the SEC. He certainly got NIL money and will likely be a 1st round pick meaning he'll double dip. 

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1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

The owners want to do away with low A leagues, drafting high schoolers, and a bunch of other cost-saving measures. 

I can see a way owners/GMs will try and save money in future is towards SP contracts.

We all know gone are the days of SP going 7+ innings for the most part. 

We've also seen a decrease of SP going 6+ innings over the last 5 years, as starters are now mostly just going around 5+.

2020-2024 data showing a decrease in 6+ inning starts to around 12–13%. Starting pitchers are now averaging closer to 5.1 innings per start.

I just think with the workload for SP being decreased going forward to lesser innings/pitches/batters faced, majority of SP will lose some leverage of asking for big money contracts.

We might see more willingness from owners/gm to offer more years because of lesser workload on the arms, but the money part of it will decrease, meaning we'll likely see more of the future top SP AAV be in the 20s and nobody making 30+ AAV outside of an Ohtani type SP/hitter.

I think this could be something we see happening in 5 years

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16 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

I can see a way owners/GMs will try and save money in future is towards SP contracts.

We all know gone are the days of SP going 7+ innings for the most part. 

We've also seen a decrease of SP going 6+ innings over the last 5 years, as starters are now mostly just going around 5+.

2020-2024 data showing a decrease in 6+ inning starts to around 12–13%. Starting pitchers are now averaging closer to 5.1 innings per start.

I just think with the workload for SP being decreased going forward to lesser innings/pitches/batters faced, majority of SP will lose some leverage of asking for big money contracts.

We might see more willingness from owners/gm to offer more years because of lesser workload on the arms, but the money part of it will decrease, meaning we'll likely see more of the future top SP AAV be in the 20s and nobody making 30+ AAV outside of an Ohtani type SP/hitter.

I think this could be something we see happening in 5 years

Yeah I think SP will make less, but position guys and maybe even RP will get more of the pie.  Overall teams will probably spend about the same.

We saw last playoffs how important relievers are in the postseason, especially the first 2 rounds.

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3 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

No one has ever made hitting 95mph on the gun look nerdier than this guy. 

Any velocity, it would be Greg Maddux.

Dude looked like something out of a ****** 1990’s Baseball movie. 

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Sciambi is an idiot. They show some kids in the bleachers that are shirtless and have BUSCH painted on their chests. He says “Are those the Ohtani guys?” The Cubs are playing the horsefeathers Angels but I guess some of the kids looked Asian. SMDH

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Just saying that maybe someone who throws this few strikes and had a 7.00 ERA in his first 14 innings...like maybe let him pitch in the minors a few times. 

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This dude isn't going to make it out of the first.

Or he'll get a double play and we won't score off him all night.

There is no in between

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