Cerami: Cubs Finalizing Edward Cabrera Trade

[cubfansince77]

51 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Most of us do not feel Shaw isn’t the answer at third. You do. I think he is good and will be better. That said, we still need another bat. If Shaw has to wait until ‘27 to join the line up full time and is a utility guy this year with maybe 400 AB, that is fine. But just because guys want Bregman or Bichette does not mean people don’t think Shaw will be good. 

You are HOPING Shaw will be good from an offensive standpoint. Already agree he's very good with the glove but hasn't shown any real pop with the bat. Hope is a slippery slope, and while you COULD be right, early returns aren't good as of yet. That's a fact. 

[Derwood]

3 minutes ago, cubfansince77 said:

You are HOPING Shaw will be good from an offensive standpoint. Already agree he's very good with the glove but hasn't shown any real pop with the bat. Hope is a slippery slope, and while you COULD be right, early returns aren't good as of yet. That's a fact. 

he had a 130 wRC+ in the 2nd half

[Rcal10]

3 minutes ago, cubfansince77 said:

You are HOPING Shaw will be good from an offensive standpoint. Already agree he's very good with the glove but hasn't shown any real pop with the bat. Hope is a slippery slope, and while you COULD be right, early returns aren't good as of yet. That's a fact. 

Rookie season he was league average with the bat. That is not bad. Especially when you add his defense and baserunning. I don’t like Shaw, the man, but I am not going to discredit him as a player. 

[Gjfificifjdej]

3 hours ago, cubfansince77 said:

You are right, we need another bat and most of us feel Maga Matt isn't the answer at 3rd. As I've said in other threads today, I think when all is said and done we might end up with Suarez at 3rd. Hear me out, because he's not my first choice (that would be Bregman) but I think that Bregs/Bo/Tuck/Belly are all 30ish and all kinda fragile frankly. Really good hitters but with the exception of Bregman, all average to below avg. defensively. Don't think that juice is worth the squeeze and I really think Jed will pass on all four. Just a gut feeling. 

Suarez is also an avg. defender, older but so much pop and that uppercut swing will play well in Wrigley. He's been more durable than the aforementioned four superstars and is a real pro. I think he can hit 40-50 homers and if his defense is a worry, then Shaw can replace him in the late innings. Thoughts?

If you can’t ignore someones off field views because you disagree with them then maybe a sport where the majority of players are white and grew up in wealthy families isn’t for you boss. 

[cubfansince77]

2 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Rookie season he was league average with the bat. That is not bad. Especially when you add his defense and baserunning. I don’t like Shaw, the man, but I am not going to discredit him as a player. 

Get off your soap box man, he hasn't proven a damn thing yet: as a man or as a player. Your defense of him is amusing though. I'm here for it. 

[Tryptamine]

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[We Got The Whole 9]

22 minutes ago, cubfansince77 said:

Get off your soap box man, he hasn't proven a damn thing yet: as a man or as a player. Your defense of him is amusing though. I'm here for it. 

Did you not watch the 2nd half? He was one of our best hitters.

[Stratos]

I was looking at footage of Cabrera pitching.  How does someone throw a 94 mph change-up?

Also, the guy throws 98mph but his fastball got lit up pretty hard the last 2 seasons, which probably explains why he throws his change-up more than any other pitch.  We live in wild times.

[Tryptamine]

2 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I was looking at footage of Cabrera pitching.  How does someone throw a 94 mph change-up?

Also, the guy throws 98mph but his fastball got lit up pretty hard the last 2 seasons, which probably explains why he throws his change-up more than any other pitch.  We live in wild times.

Knowing the Cubs, I wouldn't be at all shocked if that fastball becomes a cutter. and they might need to scrap that sinker entirely.