Cubs-Brewers Game One Thread, By The Numbers

[Wilson A2000]

5 minutes ago, Pinerider said:

Definitely. Got work him bigtime at catcher this winter

He's not going to get starts next year over Amaya and Kelly no matter how much he improves in the offseason. I just don't think you become a good catcher in an offseason he's probably already older than you'd like to develop into a MLB caliber one. The Cubs value how a catcher handles the staff too much (see letting Contreras walk as evidence). Mo is a DH. 

[Cuzi]

3 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Because he can’t catch and our DH is a better hitter. 

I dont care if he can't catch. You dont send that bat back down to AAA in favor of a Reese McGuire.

Edited October 4, 2025 by Cuzi

[squally1313]

Just now, Cuzi said:

I dont care if he can't catch. You dont send that bat back down to AAA if favor of a Reese McGuire.

But that’s not the decision because you need a backup catcher regardless. He comes up to be a…platoon DH? pinch hitter? and we’re essentially punting on the chances of him ever being a serviceable major league catcher. A 135 wRC DH only guy is marginally value in like, a lesser version of Seiya Suzuki way. A 135 wRC bat who can also play a mediocre catcher is one of the most valuable players in the league. 

[Wilson A2000]

5 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

a ton of assests who cant crack the starting lineup

 

 

That's more of a function of how good the Cubs starters are

[Soul]

It’s a horrible game.  We are getting destroyed.  Let’s see what happens after an off day that we obviously really needed.

[Stratos]

LOL Tucker.

 

[Irrelevant Dude]

1 minute ago, Wilson A2000 said:

He's not going to get starts next year over Amaya and Kelly no matter how much he improves in the offseason.

We're getting ahead of ourselves here, but maybe the Cubs look to trade Kelly.  Having two very good hitching catchers is a luxury that few, if any, teams have and maybe the Cubs can capitalize on Kelly's outstanding season and team friendly contract to fill another hole.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Guess Civale should have started. 

[minnesotacubsfan]

Just now, Wilson A2000 said:

That's more of a function of how good the Cubs starters are

true, but the Cubs, more than anything, need quality starting pitching

 

 

[Rcal10]

2 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

Guess Civale should have started. 

Wonder if there is a game 4 do the Cubs consider Civali? 

[minnesotacubsfan]

I feel like its been awhile since Tucker has been good this season

[Wilson A2000]

2 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

We're getting ahead of ourselves here, but maybe the Cubs look to trade Kelly.  Having two very good hitching catchers is a luxury that few, if any, teams have and maybe the Cubs can capitalize on Kelly's outstanding season and team friendly contract to fill another hole.

I wouldn't be opposed to that on the face of it, but Amaya cannot stay healthy and then you risk having Ballesteros and McGuire (or trading for another middling veteran catcher) as your catching tandem 

[Illiterate Scholar]

I do think Ballesteros will be overrated a bit by Cubs fans this winter. He's certainly been impressive but both Caisse and Shaw were clearly better than him in AAA this year for example 

[Wilson A2000]

Just now, Rcal10 said:

Wonder if there is a game 4 do the Cubs consider Civali? 

No. Shota, Taillon, and Boyd and if not Boyd then Rea. 

[Illiterate Scholar]

5 minutes ago, Stratos said:

LOL Tucker.

 

Contreras brothers are famously anti bat flip

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

1 minute ago, Wilson A2000 said:

No. Shota, Taillon, and Boyd and if not Boyd then Rea. 

I don't know if I ever wanna see Boyd against the Brewers again

[Cuzi]

2 minutes ago, Illiterate Scholar said:

I do think Ballesteros will be overrated a bit by Cubs fans this winter. He's certainly been impressive but both Caisse and Shaw were clearly better than him in AAA this year for example 

I'll take Ballesteros' bat over Caissie if you asked me to pick right now. Caissie has too much swing and miss in his swing.

[Max Power]

Kinda surprised Peralta still out there.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Ian Happ's homer there will eventually be used against him by his haters

[Connor McConnor]

Blowouts happen, but 2 hits through 5?  

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Just now, Max Power said:

Kinda surprised Peralta still out there.

Yeah, just wasting bullets for no reason. Should have been out after the arbitrary 5 innings to get a win

[DrCub]

1 hour ago, Jason Ross said:

Yeah, he's been really bad. Have to wonder if he rushed back from injury and his mechanics are off some. He was really good in Washigon and hurt by a bad defense! And the stuff is there. I don't know. 

I barely have anything optimistic to say today and ya'll know how rare that is. 

It's game 1, though. And it doesn't matter if you lose by 1 or 50, it only counts once. 

You’re absolutely correct, but I think the poor decision making and lack of acquiring any talent at the deadline has made people irrationally upset at this loss.  

[Wilson A2000]

5 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

true, but the Cubs, more than anything, need quality starting pitching

 

 

Horton, Steele, Boyd, Imanaga, Taillon, With Rea/Assad/Brown/Soroka/trades. It's already a good staff headed into next year. 

[Rcal10]

7 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

No. Shota, Taillon, and Boyd and if not Boyd then Rea. 

 It sure about that. If Civali goes 5 shut out innings today and his stuff rates out good, why not start him. I believe one of the more stat savvy posters pointed out Civali’s underlying numbers were really good and what he was doing wasn’t smoke and mirrors, like Flexen.

Edited October 4, 2025 by Rcal10

[UMFan83]

11 minutes ago, Stratos said:

LOL Tucker.

 

Those Contreras brothers are trouble