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2 minutes ago, Bertz said:

The specifics on the money probably impacts how heavily Boston gets back into the SP pool.  They were purportedly just gonna run it back with James Paxton prior to this.

Agreed. I have to think Boston is putting up a lot of money, Grissom is a big get for one year of Sale. Hopefully it is enough for them not to go for the top pitchers. But they do need a pitcher now.

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5 minutes ago, Bertz said:

The specifics on the money probably impacts how heavily Boston gets back into the SP pool.  They were purportedly just gonna run it back with James Paxton prior to this.

Saves Boston ~$10M but puts them down a SP

 

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4 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Saves Boston ~$10M but puts them down a SP

 

Doesn't montgomery live in Boston? I'd suspect he's bostons next pickup

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2 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

and perhaps saved them enough money to go after Montgomery/Snell/Imanaga.

Maybe?  They were $30-40M under the tax this AM, needed one SP (and were talking to James Paxton about a reunion), and had been sniffing after Teoscar Hernandez.  Now they've given themselves another $10M but opened another hole.  I kind of think this puts them more on Bieber/Cease, but realistically they could go anywhere.

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Doesn't montgomery live in Boston? I'd suspect he's bostons next pickup

Deals are being made today, but cubs closed for business Thursday afternoon for the long holiday weekend. 

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3 minutes ago, LBiittner said:

Deals are being made today, but cubs closed for business Thursday afternoon for the long holiday weekend. 

This implies they were actually open at some point.

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12 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Saves Boston ~$10M but puts them down a SP

 

So is Sale with a salary of $10M about equal value to Bieber at his salary? Does that mean Bieber’s cost could be Alcantara? 

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1 minute ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

The Braves are low key Dombrowskiing their roster build, curious if they end up in a stuck place in the next 24 months or so.

24 months from now they'll have been in 2 more post seasons. I wish the Cubs were stuck similarly 

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17 minutes ago, LBiittner said:

Where would Grissom land in the pecking order of Cub similar top prospects?

Above them all.

 

I really like Grissom. Great plate discipline. I think he's gonna take off in Boston.

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29 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

If they don’t get Bellinger they get a draft pick for him. I doubt losing a pick would stop them from signing someone. I agree that they would rather not lose the pick, but if they had to I think they would. As for trades, what about Bieber? He isn’t going to cost much. I would consider him a quality mlb player. 

That true with Bellinger, have they ever acquired a QO guy recently?

Bieber is a quality starter, it would have to be a low cost get for them to get a guy on his last year.

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5 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

That true with Bellinger, have they ever acquired a QO guy recently?

Bieber is a quality starter, it would have to be a low cost get for them to get a guy on his last year.

Was the cost for the braves low to get a guy on his last year

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7 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

The Braves are low key Dombrowskiing their roster build, curious if they end up in a stuck place in the next 24 months or so.

There's this weird thing where you're not allowed to criticize the Braves because "har har you're just jealous."  But like I'm jealous of e.g. trading for Sean Murphy, not locking him in for 7 years.  The former was cool the latter seems pretty dumb.

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7 minutes ago, Bertz said:

There's this weird thing where you're not allowed to criticize the Braves because "har har you're just jealous."  But like I'm jealous of e.g. trading for Sean Murphy, not locking him in for 7 years.  The former was cool the latter seems pretty dumb.

I'd have signed that Murphy contract all day long. It's really only a 3 year extension with a club option. They pre-paid his 3 years of control and then extended him until 2028 with an AAV of $15m. I'm not above criticism for any club (I do think they're going to get a little locked down here as TT said), but I'd have easily applauded the Cubs extending Murphy like that. Even if he falls off in his early 30's, $15m isn't a big LT hit. He just needs to be roughly starting caliber through 2028.

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4 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

I'd have signed that Murphy contract all day long. It's really only a 3 year extension with a club option. They pre-paid his 3 years of control and then extended him until 2028 with an AAV of $15m. I'm not above criticism for any club (I do think they're going to get a little locked down here as TT said), but I'd have easily applauded the Cubs extending Murphy like that. Even if he falls off in his early 30's, $15m isn't a big LT hit. He just needs to be roughly starting caliber through 2028.

Even if every individual extension was smart in a vacuum in aggregate I think what AA has done is dumb and a huge unforced error 

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Even if every individual extension was smart in a vacuum in aggregate I think what AA has done is dumb and a huge unforced error 

Eh, we'll agree to disagree a bit there. I think the Braves have done a pretty solid job, IMO. Not to say everything they've done is perfect (Chris Sale is a bit of an odd one, even with the money kicked in) and I think at some point having a deeper system would pay off (they've thinned that out a ton). But outside of that, I don't see a ton of unforced errors, either. Totally fine if you're not as big of a fan of what the Braves have done, though.

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2 minutes ago, Backtobanks said:

How about taking a chance on Urshela for 3B?  If he's fully recovered from the injury he could be a solid fit at a reasonable price.

He's very much an "it depends on what's added around him" type for me but I've definitely eyed him.

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