NFL 2023 - Weekly Discussion

[Soul]

I still miss Montgomery.  He’s become a big part of what Detroit does.  Legit solid all around back.

[Soul]

55 minutes ago, username said:

Zay Flowers wins the award for Biggest Dipshit.  Screwing his team with a 15 yard taunting penalty, then fumbling at the 1 yard line, then cutting his hand open hitting the bench.  What an idiot.  

I could understand the fumble because he’s close to scoring and I don’t think he ever saw the defender who knocked it out.

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

Flowers was the only one making plays too but that drive will haunt him.

 

Lions looking good. Winning the battle up front. 

[soccer10k]

40 minutes ago, Soul said:

I could understand the fumble because he’s close to scoring and I don’t think he ever saw the defender who knocked it out.

 

Have to know the situation. If he doesnt stretch the ball out, it’s either 3rd and 1 or 1st and goal from the 1, depending on where he goes down. No need to stretch the ball out there.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Lions pass on a 45 yd FG to go up 3 scores and get stuffed on 4th. 9ers storm back for a TD.

[Derwood]

49ers with the pixie dust this quarter

[Soul]

The shift in this game was massive and quick.

I doubt that watch party in Detroit is rockin’ anymore.

[Derwood]

Lions are a bunch of chocking dogs

[Soul]

I get being aggressive but the first time the 49ers leveraged it to start the comeback and this time the Lions gave up the tying points.

[Soul]

22 minutes ago, username said:

Right, you can't fumble the ball at the 1 yard line.  And "not seeing the defender" just makes it even worse.  Fatal move that cost his team dearly.  

Eh, he’s being aggressive, the goal line is right in front of him.  I don’t want a player who just goes down instead of trying to score.

[Soul]

Well this sucks.  
 

2020 Matchups

KC / SF

Biden / Trump

2024 Matchups 

KC / SF

Biden / Trump

[soccer10k]

2 minutes ago, Soul said:

Well this sucks.  
 

2020 Matchups

KC / SF

Biden / Trump

2024 Matchups 

KC / SF

Biden / Trump

If that means the results of both are the same I’ll be plenty happy with it.

[soccer10k]

11 minutes ago, Soul said:

Eh, he’s being aggressive, the goal line is right in front of him.  I don’t want a player who just goes down instead of trying to score.

But you’re probably going to score anyway. There’s no need to try to reach for the goal line. By stretching the ball out, the upside is probably adding fractions of a point (the difference between for sure scoring and the slim chance of getting stuffed twice or more from the 1). However the downside is potentially costing yourself 6 or so points, which is what he did. The slim upside just isn’t worth the risk.

[Soul]

5 minutes ago, soccer10k said:

But you’re probably going to score anyway. There’s no need to try to reach for the goal line. By stretching the ball out, the upside is probably adding fractions of a point (the difference between for sure scoring and the slim chance of getting stuffed twice or more from the 1). However the downside is potentially costing yourself 6 or so points, which is what he did. The slim upside just isn’t worth the risk.

If that’s a coach decision I’d be trying to weigh those things.  In that split second we have a player who sees the goal line  and he decides to go for it.  I can understand that much more than his decision to stand over a defender and taunt him.

also, I am so done with journeys don’t stop believing.

[UMFan83]

22 minutes ago, Soul said:

Well this sucks.  
 

2020 Matchups

KC / SF

Biden / Trump

2024 Matchups 

KC / SF

Biden / Trump

New pandemic coming in March

[Thusly Boned]

I can't believe Campbell passing on points and going on 4th there; if I'm a Lions fan, that's gonna gnaw at me for a loooonnngg time.

Well, since I definitely won't be watching the superbowl, I hope they talk about Taylor Swift non-stop all game, and cut to her between every play just to piss the meatheads off. Maybe advertise it as the Taylor Bowl.

[BigSlick]

Absolutely devastating loss there for the Lions. Campbell’s 4th down tries while in Field Goal range should be scrutinized, though they’re true to his form and the way he coaches. You live by the big balls, you die by the big balls.

 

time will tell if this does lasting harm to the team or if they’re built for long term success. For the Bears sake, I hope it does lasting damage.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

2 hours ago, username said:

To each their own.  I'll take the smart player who knows to secure the football in a conference championship game rather than one who leaves it available to be punched out.  And no one is suggesting that he just go down.  You protect the football over everything else in that situation.  

I'm glad you feel this way.  Not that I really needed assurance, but now I'm certain that trying to score a TD is the right way to play football

[NorthsideAvenger]

4 hours ago, XZero77 said:

I can't believe Campbell passing on points and going on 4th there; if I'm a Lions fan, that's gonna gnaw at me for a loooonnngg time.

Well, since I definitely won't be watching the superbowl, I hope they talk about Taylor Swift non-stop all game, and cut to her between every play just to piss the meatheads off. Maybe advertise it as the Taylor Bowl.

Why do you hate football? 

Edited January 29, 2024 by NorthsideAvenger

[Thusly Boned]

3 hours ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Why do you hate football? 

I don't hate it, I just don't care enough about this particular matchup to outweigh my amusement at the silly people sent into apoplexy by all the attention the Swift/Kelce ting is getting.

[BigbadB]

My wife thinks I should be a head coach. I told her on the first 4th and short, you gotta kick the field goal here. 3 scores is better than 2 scores. Once it's 3 scores, go for it on 4th and long if you want, I don't care. But, you need 3 scores and neutralize any chance at momentum. Not only did they go for it and didn't make it, momentum shifted in a way that I've only seen a few times. It was a tidal wave. 

Then he gets a reprieve. You take the tie here. You can't allow yourself to go two scores down. But they went for it and went down 2 scores.

I feel bad for the Lions fanbase. You get do overs in regular season. You don't get do overs in playoffs. There are times when going for it on 4th makes sense. Those were two times that you just don't do it. 

I'll also add that Zay Flowers learned a valuable lesson in his game. One that people will look back at and laugh at over and over again, but he learned. I haven't gone back and looked at where each of the 5 personal fouls that were called on Baltimore happened and how many points were earned by KC by those penalties extending plays or killing drives for Baltimore, but it sure seemed like the difference in that game to me was those penalties. Hard way to lose. 

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 hour ago, BigbadB said:

My wife thinks I should be a head coach. I told her on the first 4th and short, you gotta kick the field goal here. 3 scores is better than 2 scores. Once it's 3 scores, go for it on 4th and long if you want, I don't care. But, you need 3 scores and neutralize any chance at momentum. Not only did they go for it and didn't make it, momentum shifted in a way that I've only seen a few times. It was a tidal wave. 

Then he gets a reprieve. You take the tie here. You can't allow yourself to go two scores down. But they went for it and went down 2 scores.

I feel bad for the Lions fanbase. You get do overs in regular season. You don't get do overs in playoffs. There are times when going for it on 4th makes sense. Those were two times that you just don't do it. 

I'll also add that Zay Flowers learned a valuable lesson in his game. One that people will look back at and laugh at over and over again, but he learned. I haven't gone back and looked at where each of the 5 personal fouls that were called on Baltimore happened and how many points were earned by KC by those penalties extending plays or killing drives for Baltimore, but it sure seemed like the difference in that game to me was those penalties. Hard way to lose. 

 

I think they deserved each of those penalties

[BigbadB]

1 hour ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

I think they deserved each of those penalties

Oh, I'm not saying they didn't. I'm just saying those penalties factored in the outcome. The only penalty I questioned was the first in back to back holding calls on KC's RG. I didn't really see a hold there, although I can see how and why it was called. From a different angle, it could easily look like a hold.

[BigbadB]

7 minutes ago, username said:

And the coaching is not absent of blame.  It was a very poorly designed offensive gameplan overall.  I think I read that the Ravens only called 6 running plays to a RB the entire game.  Hard to imagine the logic that went into that given they're the best rushing team in the league.  

Coupled with KC not being all that great against the run. 

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

2 minutes ago, username said:

Spoken like a guy who has never played football.  

 

Funny.

Aren't you the guy that challenged me to a 1k gamble-off and then ghosted/changed his name when I accepted?  Are you going to challenge me to a fight next?  What's your new login going to be?