Justin Fields’ make or break camp begins

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I really, really can't wait for the regular season to start and give us meaningful news.

[WrigleyField 22]

Just now, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I really, really can't wait for the regular season to start and give us meaningless PFF stats to argue over

Ftfy

[Hairyducked Idiot]

1 minute ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Ftfy

I'd like to state on the record, right now, that I do not care what PFF stats say in any circumstances, whether the agree or disagree with anything I already believed.

[UMFan83]

I know it’s preseason but the Panthers look like complete trash so far lol 

why don’t we draft Caleb Williams and then just alternate series with him and Fields or maybe keep him as a backup in case Fields gets hurt?

[Tryptamine]

PJ Walker is really really bad

[UMFan83]

7 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

PJ Walker is really really bad

And Bagent pretty good so far. Wonder if they’d actually cut Walker and keep Fields, Peterman and Bagent

[We Got The Whole 9]

Bagent just put Walker on the hot seat 

[raw]

Am I actually "excited" about the DE room? Ngakoue is legit. He's a lock for 8 sacks if he's healthy (has 8 or more every year). Walker is solid. I like him more inside on pass downs, and Ngakoue gives you a chance to do that. Rasheem Green is just 2 seasons removed from a 6.5 sack season and is still only 26. But Terrell Lewis and Trevis Gipson look like potentially great depth pieces who can give you a burst of energy late in games. And they still have Dominique Robinson as a project. 

Obviously, a long way to go and not an elite room at all, but I think the Bears should/will keep all 6 DEs and keep 4 DTs and play a lot of 3/4 DE lines on passing downs. Walker and Green can both play inside, and the Bears actually ran Green inside in the first quarter with 2 DEs other DEs on the outside. They aren't likely to get a ton of pressure from the interior anyway, so no reason to play 2 of them on 3rd and 7+.  

[Tryptamine]

Bagent needs to see a lot of the 2nd team reps.

[Soul]

I may not know much, but I know Bagent has potential preseason or not.

[UMFan83]

Ugh just preseason but tonight is going to amplify annoying Packers fans about Love. 

[Tryptamine]

Walker and Peterman are battling for 3rd string at this point, they both suck real bad.

[UMFan83]

 

[bukie]

Updated NFC North QB rankings:

1. Justin FIelds
2. Kirk Cousins
3. Jared Goff
4. Tyson Bagent
5. Jordan Love

[stitchface]

I heard Fields was throwing some passes on the side and one of them wasn't perfect.

[Proven Veteran]

6 hours ago, Soul said:

I may not know much, but I know Bagent has potential preseason or not.

He was very impressive. Several perfectly placed balls, good decision making.

[raw]

Easy on the Bagent love. He looks pretty solid, which is really all I hoped at this point. Dude was at a DII school this time last year. I don't think he's quite ready to start an NFL game as the primary backup for a QB who has been injured in his only 2 years in the league. I was hoping he'd show enough to be kept on as QB3 on the practice squad. And despite his play, I don't think he's at risk of being poached from the Bears PS to another team's 53 man roster, especially now that you don't have to have 3 QBs on the roster in order for them to be able to play in a pinch.

That being said, the Bears probably still need a QB2. There's a couple teams out there with a couple solid 3rd QBs that I wouldn't mind grabbing if they make it to waivers. I'd cut PJ Walker in a heartbeat if SF cuts either Darnold or Brandon Allen, TB cuts John Woolford (he got hurt yesterday, not sure how severe).

[jersey cubs fan]

This team isn’t winning without a good Justin Fields making a difference. If he goes down it doesn’t matter who the backup is. They’re losing. I’d rather prioritize youth and upside at the position than reliable wisdom. That being said, if you can stash him in the practice squad as qb3, then by all means give it a go. 

[raw]

53 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

This team isn’t winning without a good Justin Fields making a difference. If he goes down it doesn’t matter who the backup is. They’re losing. I’d rather prioritize youth and upside at the position than reliable wisdom. That being said, if you can stash him in the practice squad as qb3, then by all means give it a go. 

Well yeah, I've said that for years. But my point is you can stash him as QB3. If a team claims a player on waivers, they have to put them on the 53. No team is putting a guy on their roster as QB2 or 3, based on 2 preseason quarters since DII. And even if they are going to lose anyway, I'd rather not throw Bagent in there as a starter with that same lack of experience and potentially ruin what you could have in him, considering the QB2 for the Bears is very likely going to start at least 1 game this year.

[jersey cubs fan]

36 minutes ago, raw said:

Well yeah, I've said that for years. But my point is you can stash him as QB3. If a team claims a player on waivers, they have to put them on the 53. No team is putting a guy on their roster as QB2 or 3, based on 2 preseason quarters since DII. And even if they are going to lose anyway, I'd rather not throw Bagent in there as a starter with that same lack of experience and potentially ruin what you could have in him, considering the QB2 for the Bears is very likely going to start at least 1 game this year.

I get that no nfl team looking to contend in 2023 would put him on as qb2. But what about the tankers? Who is tanking this season like the bears did last year? Most tanking teams aren’t settled at qb. And if you are tanking you don’t have to worry about perfect roster construction. You could look to steal somebody’s ps QB and put him on your roster as QB3. There’s probably 3-4 teams that are a threat to consider that option, but there are probably a dozen other practice squad qbs those teams could consider, so as you say, the chances are slim. 

[raw]

The only teams that I would consider as tanking, don't have a long-term (healthy) answer at QB, are Arizona and Tampa. Probably can include the Rams, though IDK what they're actually doing. I thought the Titans were tanking, but they signed Hopkins and just drafted QBs in consecutive years. Raiders, Vikings and Washington seem to be legitimately trying, though they may not have their long-term answer at QB. 

[Outshined_One]

Caleb Williams will end up going to the most annoying option. Think of a team with loathesome fans and an obnoxious head coach that's had some recent struggles, but isn't as long suffering as, say, Detroit or Cleveland.

Washington sounds about right.

[jersey cubs fan]

19 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

Caleb Williams will end up going to the most annoying option. Think of a team with loathesome fans and an obnoxious head coach that's had some recent struggles, but isn't as long suffering as, say, Detroit or Cleveland.

Washington sounds about right.

Ron Rivera is obnoxious? On a list of obnoxious head coaches I would have several ahead of him. 

[UMFan83]

horsefeathers hell

 

 

[UK]

Dalton Risner should already be on the Bears roster given the injuries and the injury history of the interior lineman.

As far as QBs, it'll be interesting who becomes available. At this point, I'm for cutting Walker and possibly bringing Wentz in. I'd also cut Peterman with Bagent becoming the #3 and then signing the best available project for the PS.