College Football - Week 11 (Nov. 12)

[Andy]

Top 25 games

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(1) Georgia at Mississippi State (7 pm, ESPN)

Indiana at (2) Ohio State (12 pm, FOX)

Nebraska at (3) Michigan (3:30 pm, ABC)

(4) TCU at (18) Texas (7:30 pm, ABC)

Missouri at (5) Tennessee (12 pm, CBS)

(25) Washington at (6) Oregon (7 pm, FOX)

(7) LSU at Arkansas (12 pm, ESPN)

Colorado at (8) USC (9:30 pm Friday, FS1)

(9) Alabama at (11) Ole Miss (3:30 pm, CBS)

Louisville at (10) Clemson (3:30 pm, ESPN)

Arizona at (12) UCLA (10:30 pm, FOX)

Stanford at (13) Utah (10 pm, ESPN)

Maryland at (14) Penn State (3:30 pm, FOX)

(15) North Carolina at Wake Forest (7:30 pm, ESPN2)

Boston College at (16) NC State (3:30 pm, ACC Network)

(22) UCF at (17) Tulane (3:30 pm, ESPN2)

(19) Kansas State at Baylor (7 pm, FS1)

(20) Notre Dame vs Navy - in Baltimore (12 pm, ABC)

Purdue at (21) Illinois (12 pm, ESPN2)

(23) Florida State at Syracuse (8 pm, ACC Network)

Vanderbilt at (24) Kentucky (12 pm, SEC Network)

 

Other nationally available games

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Tuesday

Eastern Michigan at Akron (7 pm, CBSSN)

Ohio at Miami (OH) (7:30 pm, ESPN2)

Ball State at Toledo (8 pm, ESPN)

 

Wednesday

Buffalo at Central Michigan (7 pm, ESPN2)

Northern Illinois at Western Michigan (7 pm, ESPNU)

Kent State at Bowling Green (7 pm, CBSSN)

 

Thursday

Tulsa at Memphis (7:30 pm, ESPN)

Georgia Southern at UL Lafayette (7:30 pm, ESPN2)

 

Friday

East Carolina at Cincinnati (8 pm, ESPN2)

Fresno State at UNLV (10:30 pm, CBSSN)

 

Saturday TV

Oklahoma at West Virginia (12 pm, FS1)

Rutgers at Michigan State (12 pm, BTN)

SMU at South Florida (12 pm, ESPNU)

Virginia Tech at Duke (12 pm, RSN/ESPN3)

Liberty at UConn (12 pm, CBSSN)

Pittsburgh at Virginia (12 pm, ACC Network)

Wisconsin at Iowa (3:30 pm, FS1)

Northwestern at Minnesota (3:30 pm, BTN)

Miami at Georgia Tech (3:30 pm, RSN/ESPN3)

Iowa State at Oklahoma State (3:30 pm, ESPNU)

Army at Troy (3:30 pm, NFL Network)

New Mexico at Air Force (3:30 pm, CBSSN)

Arizona State at Washington State (3:30 pm, Pac-12 Network)

South Carolina at Florida (4 pm, SEC Network)

Wyoming at Colorado State (7 pm, CBSSN)

Southern Miss at Coastal Carolina (7:30 pm, ESPNU)

Texas A&M at Auburn (7:30 pm, SEC Network)

California at Oregon State (9 pm, Pac-12 Network)

San Jose State at San Diego State (10:30 pm, FS1)

Boise State at Nevada (10:30 pm, CBSSN)

 

Saturday Streaming

James Madison at Old Dominion (1 pm, ESPN+)

UL Monroe at Georgia State (1 pm, ESPN+)

Rice at Western Kentucky (2 pm, ESPN+)

UMass at Arkansas State (3 pm, ESPN3)

Temple at Houston (3 pm, ESPN+)

Charlotte at Middle Tennessee (3:30 pm, ESPN3)

North Texas at UAB (3:30 pm, Stadium)

Louisiana Tech at UTSA (3:30 pm, ESPN+)

Appalachian State at Marshall (3:30 pm, ESPN+)

Texas State at South Alabama (5 pm, ESPN+)

Florida Atlantic at Florida International (7 pm, Stadium)

Kansas at Texas Tech (7 pm, ESPN+)

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Western Kentucky gonna win by 150 this weekend

 

[UMFan83]

Pretty mediocre slate of games. TCU-Texas is the big one as it relates to the national championship picture but Alabama-Ole Miss has lost a lot of its luster, though perhaps an Ole Miss will will propel them into the CFP discussion as the number of 1 loss P5 teams are dwindling. Locally I know Illinois-Purdue is a big one for many posters here. I'm looking forward to that one.

[UMFan83]

B1G West is a complete mess wow. Looks like there will be 4 teams tied at 4-3. Hopefully someone works out the tiebreakers because I’m too lazy.

 

Really wanted Illinois in the Big Ten title game

[Ding Dong Johnson]

146 total yards and 24 points

[SouthSideRyan]

B1G West is a complete mess wow. Looks like there will be 4 teams tied at 4-3. Hopefully someone works out the tiebreakers because I’m too lazy.

 

Really wanted Illinois in the Big Ten title game

 

We beat everybody but Purdue, but we’ll lose to you by 25 next week and somebody will probably finish with 3 losses. Iowa and Minnesota play next week so one of them will have 4 losses. Iowa has tiebreaker over Purdue, Purdue over Minnesota.

 

Assuming the Michigan loss, if it gets to 4 losses, Illinois has the tiebreaker with every team but Purdue, and would win any multi team tiebreaker except 3 way with Purdue/Minnesota

[gflore34]

B1G West is a complete mess wow. Looks like there will be 4 teams tied at 4-3. Hopefully someone works out the tiebreakers because I’m too lazy.

 

Really wanted Illinois in the Big Ten title game

 

Me to, would have been nice, Purdue' going to lose by 30+ to OSU or Michigan, Illini by 20+, still many did expect much of this Illini team. Maybe, this is just the start for Illini football.

[Derwood]

Illinois is what we thought they were

[UMFan83]

B1G West is a complete mess wow. Looks like there will be 4 teams tied at 4-3. Hopefully someone works out the tiebreakers because I’m too lazy.

 

Really wanted Illinois in the Big Ten title game

 

We beat everybody but Purdue, but we’ll lose to you by 25 next week and somebody will probably finish with 3 losses. Iowa and Minnesota play next week so one of them will have 4 losses. Iowa has tiebreaker over Purdue, Purdue over Minnesota.

 

Assuming the Michigan loss, if it gets to 4 losses, Illinois has the tiebreaker with every team but Purdue, and would win any multi team tiebreaker except 3 way with Purdue/Minnesota

 

So this scenario seems relatively reasonable and makes a 5 way tie. Assuming Illinois would win that tie due to being 3-1 against the others?

 

Illinois: L @ Mich, W @ NU

Purdue: W vs NU, L @ IU

Iowa: L @ Minn, W vs Neb

Minn: W vs Iowa, L @ Wisc

Wisc: W @ Neb, W vs Minn

 

H2H:

 

Ill 3-1

Wisc 2-2

Minn 2-2

Iowa 2-2

Pur 2-2

[SouthSideRyan]

B1G West is a complete mess wow. Looks like there will be 4 teams tied at 4-3. Hopefully someone works out the tiebreakers because I’m too lazy.

 

Really wanted Illinois in the Big Ten title game

 

We beat everybody but Purdue, but we’ll lose to you by 25 next week and somebody will probably finish with 3 losses. Iowa and Minnesota play next week so one of them will have 4 losses. Iowa has tiebreaker over Purdue, Purdue over Minnesota.

 

Assuming the Michigan loss, if it gets to 4 losses, Illinois has the tiebreaker with every team but Purdue, and would win any multi team tiebreaker except 3 way with Purdue/Minnesota

 

So this scenario seems relatively reasonable and makes a 5 way tie. Assuming Illinois would win that tie due to being 3-1 against the others?

 

Illinois: L @ Mich, W @ NU

Purdue: W vs NU, L @ IU

Iowa: L @ Minn, W vs Neb

Minn: W vs Iowa, L @ Wisc

Wisc: W @ Neb, W vs Minn

 

H2H:

 

Ill 3-1

Wisc 2-2

Minn 2-2

Iowa 2-2

Pur 2-2

 

Yes, all Illinois needs to worry about is getting Purdue out of a tiebreaker, so just tying with them on a group H2H moves it to the next tiebreak of W-L within division which IllInois would have over any other 4 loss West team (assuming a Michigan loss/NW Win)

 

No team controls their own destiny,

 

Illinois winning out still misses if Purdue wins out and Iowa loses a game.

 

Purdue winning out still misses if Iowa wins out.

 

Iowa winning out still misses if Illinois wins out.

 

Minnesota winning out still misses if at least one of Purdue or Illinois win out.

[Andy]

It will be fascinating, if it comes to it, to see how the committee handles a 12-1 ACC champ versus 11-1 Ohio State/Michigan loser that everyone will know is better but has done nothing whatsoever to prove it largely because of what a crapshow the rest of the B1G is.

 

Although it occurs to me that if the loser is OSU (and I'm getting increasingly confident it will be), the common opponent of Notre Dame might help vault them over the ACC champ.

[UMFan83]

It will be fascinating, if it comes to it, to see how the committee handles a 12-1 ACC champ versus 11-1 Ohio State/Michigan loser that everyone will know is better but has done nothing whatsoever to prove it largely because of what a crapshow the rest of the B1G is.

 

Although it occurs to me that if the loser is OSU (and I'm getting increasingly confident it will be), the common opponent of Notre Dame might help vault them over the ACC champ.

 

Yeah OSU is much better positioned. Basically there’s 5 “teams” for 1 spot:

 

Clemson/UNC winner

USC

Michigan/OSU loser

Tennessee

LSU I guess

 

I would think Tennessee is going to be the pick in that scenario. The key for a team like Mich/OSU is TCU losing a game. In that case Tennessee moves to a lock (assuming they win their next 2 games which are South Carolina and Vandy. Let’s also assume Georgia beats LSU. Now 4 teams for 1 spot:

 

Mich/OSU

Clemson/UNC

USC

TCU

 

I’m not sure the committee wants to take 2 non-conference champions who didn’t make their championship game and I don’t think they want the CFP to be 2 SEC and 2 Big Ten teams so it’s going to be difficult for a 2nd Big Ten team. The SEC is the only conference to have multiple teams in the CFP and with the Big Ten being down this year + Michigans NC schedule (if it’s them), I don’t see this being the first year another conference gets 2 teams in

[soccer10k]

I just don’t see any realistic scenario where LSU gets in. If they beat Georgia we’d have two SEC teams with better resumes. I mean I guess if LSU beats Georgia by like 40 but that’s not going to happen. And a close win over Georgia doesn’t outweigh LSU having an extra loss to a decent ACC team and getting absolutely demolished by Tennessee. So if we’ve got two SEC teams in front, I don’t think the committee takes a third SEC team over a 1-loss Mich/OSU loser.

 

And we have precedent for that in 2016 when Penn State won the Big 10 and beat OSU but had an extra loss and got demolished by Michigan so OSU went to the playoff.

[soccer10k]

Last time Oklahoma lost 5 games in a season was 2014. They went 8-5.

Last time Oklahoma lost 5 games in a regular season (before a bowl game) was 2009. They went 8-5.

Last time Oklahoma lost 5 conference games was 1998, the year before Bob Stoops was hired.