2022-23 Offseason Thread (Cubs)

[Transmogrified Tiger]

What would everyone think of Sean Manaea? I’ve liked him for a while. Grew up in Valpo. Went to Indiana State. So he’d be near home. Not hearing anything about him though in free agency. I know he seemed to be pretty terrible for San Diego. Maybe a good buy low candidate?

 

Given the composition of the rest of the rotation, I think they probably need to prioritize velocity a little more. To me there's nothing inherently wrong with taking a shot on Manaea, but when you have so many current options who can't touch 95(or 90 in the case of Hendricks), adding a guy who averages 90 is more problematic than it would be otherwise.

[UMFan83]

Speaking of 1B..ZiPs for Josh Bell: 243 /.340/.390 with a .320 wOBA

 

I don't see zips projections but Steamer projection for Frank Schwindel next year: .245/.291/.420 with a .307 wOBA.

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we are old

 

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i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

[UMFan83]

i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

 

How about Carllos Correa?

[Backtobanks]

i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

 

 

That'll work.

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i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

 

 

That'll work.

 

i think that would be sad

[Tryptamine]

i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

 

 

That'll work.

 

If the goal is a 70-75 win team, then I think that'll do nicely.

[chopsx9]

i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

 

 

That'll work.

 

If the goal is a 70-75 win team, then I think that'll do nicely.

So worse than last year?

[Thusly Boned]

 

 

That'll work.

 

If the goal is a 70-75 win team, then I think that'll do nicely.

So worse than last year?

 

Yeah, I don't see 70-75 wins as being likely even if we did essentially nothing.

[Bertz]

i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

 

They'll do at least one splashy thing, even if it's not the absolute top of market mega-star we all want. If I were playing oddsmaker I'd peg it at something like

 

50% Swanson

30% Senga

10% Correa or Bogaerts

10% Other

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i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

 

They'll do at least one splashy thing, even if it's not the absolute top of market mega-star we all want. If I were playing oddsmaker I'd peg it at something like

 

50% Swanson

30% Senga

10% Correa or Bogaerts

10% Other

 

i think that's the plan, i'm just not convinced any of those happen. it already feels like one of those "everyone was overpaying!" offseasons. and yes i'm just being negative and trying to reverse jinx it

[Bertz]

 

If the goal is a 70-75 win team, then I think that'll do nicely.

So worse than last year?

 

Yeah, I don't see 70-75 wins as being likely even if we did essentially nothing.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-absurdly-preliminary-2023-zips-projected-standings/

 

ZiPS put us at 74 before any team in the division has made any moves. I believe this takes the Brewers trade of Renfroe into account but that's it.

 

The club will project just over .500 even with a boring and efficient offseason, the question is if Jed is gonna have the stones to stretch and get the team into the upper 80's.

[Backtobanks]

So worse than last year?

 

Yeah, I don't see 70-75 wins as being likely even if we did essentially nothing.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-absurdly-preliminary-2023-zips-projected-standings/

 

ZiPS put us at 74 before any team in the division has made any moves. I believe this takes the Brewers trade of Renfroe into account but that's it.

 

The club will project just over .500 even with a boring and efficient offseason, the question is if Jed is gonna have the stones to stretch and get the team into the upper 80's.

 

Depends on what you call a "boring and efficient offseason". They haven't filled any of their numerous holes yet, so they are far from being projected to be over .500.

[Thurman Merman]

i'm smelling a bell/bellinger/taillon offseason

 

How about Carllos Correa?

Just making up for the loss of willson

[jersey cubs fan]

 

If the goal is a 70-75 win team, then I think that'll do nicely.

So worse than last year?

 

Yeah, I don't see 70-75 wins as being likely even if we did essentially nothing.

Yeah, they’d come up short

[Bertz]

Depends on what you call a "boring and efficient offseason". They haven't filled any of their numerous holes yet, so they are far from being projected to be over .500.

 

I should clarify boring and efficient, but still spending up to within a stones throw of the luxury tax. Something like:

 

Christian Vazquez (2/$20M)

Jameson Taillon (3/$50M)

Corey Kluber (1/$15M)

Josh Bell (3/$45M)

Cody Bellinger (1/$15M)

The two best relievers you can get for less than $10M

 

In the above scenario you've added ~12 WAR, though it's important to note that because it's spread across so many positions you're not adding 12 wins to that initial 74 mark. It's more like 8-10, which is how I get to that barely over .500 estimate.

[UMFan83]

Jon Lester - the gift that keeps on giving

 

[UMFan83]

[Bertz]

 

 

 

Things finally cooking?

[CubinNY]

I remember not so long ago how excited I use to get during this time thinking about who the Cubs would sign. I wouldn’t call what I am now excited. People talking about dumpster diving when they need a #1.

 

They have all the money they need to go get whoever they want.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Have we talked about Bassitt before, because him being a target is a bit confusing to me. Not that he's a bad pitcher, he seems like a solid target, but I have a hard time reconciling his relative lack of top end ceiling with paying the QO price to get him. I could almost understand it as a way to avoid needing a huge 4-5 year deal if they weren't going to get a SS, but there's plenty of Bogaerts and Swanson smoke that would require a QO too. While I can see the logic for signing multiple QO guys this year when the penalties aren't higher and they'll gain one back via Contreras, it's a specific type of aggression I can't say I was expecting(again, especially for someone with Bassitt's perceived ceiling).

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[Bertz]

 

!!!!!!

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