Week 14: BEARS at Packers, Sunday Night Football

[Wilson A2000]

It’s stupid for all the media criticism of Jenkins after one game. It sounds like his technique was bad and the Bears didn’t prepare him properly, but give him time.

[Soul]

It’s stupid for all the media criticism of Jenkins after one game. It sounds like his technique was bad and the Bears didn’t prepare him properly, but give him time.

 

If the Bears had a winning record I'll bet there wouldn't be nearly that much criticism, and people would have your line of thinking. I'm chalking it up to people being PO'd in general so everything becomes a massive failure right away.

[raw]

It’s stupid for all the media criticism of Jenkins after one game. It sounds like his technique was bad and the Bears didn’t prepare him properly, but give him time.

 

He looked like a rookie playing his first game. I thought he did well in the 1st half. Had a few penalties. False start? It happens. Holding calls? The one on the strip sack, he held for like a 1/2 second. He grabbed then tried to get his hands away quickly and just kind of let the guy go completely. Should have just continued the hold (probably didn't know he got caught) and lived to play another play. The one on the WR screen where he was lined out wide, I thought was weak. He probably held, but he was just mauling a little DB. It always looks like holding when a 320lb guy dominates someone 190. On the 2nd sack he gave up (and on at least 1 other pressure/QB hit) he seemed to be screwed up by the lack of a chip block from RB. He seemed to be waiting on Montgomery to get the chip and then engage in his block. Monty barely touched the guy and Jenkins looked like he was waiting around for the chip to happen first, by the time he realized the chip wasn't happening, the defender had him beat.

[Old Style]

Fire everyone from Ted Phillips on down. I don't want anyone from this horsefeathers show back next season. We should also start a petition to get Nagy deported. He doesn't deserve to live in this country anymore.

[gflore34]

I thought Fields was pretty shitty last night, did not play well at all. He's also not getting any help, Kmet - I mentioned focusing on him instead of Graham but, seriously can that fart-knocker catch anything? Thought the Bears may have found an answer to the TE position with Kmet but, its looking more and more like that'll be yet another hole to fill. And Allen Robinson, what a piss poor effort last night, when, if, Pace and Nagy get fired can they take him with them? He's useless out there, why not see what you've got in Newsome or any other young WR on the practice squad? There's absolutely no reason to waste anymore snaps on Robinson, he will not be a part of the next good Bears team, just say bye-bye and put him on the injury list, whatever.

[UMFan83]

If Nagy was fired I feel like we would have heard it leak already today. Please just bench Fields the rest of the year. I don't want this coaching staff to warp him any more.

[UMFan83]

I thought Fields was pretty horsefeathers last night, did not play well at all.

 

He wasn't great, but I also feel like the game plan did him no favors. It was again a lot of timing routes, very little designed plays to get him out of the pocket, almost no shots downfield (also a result of poor blocking). I would have liked to have seen more from Fields this year, did not expect him to be bottom 5 in many QB statistics, but at this point I refuse to take anything definitive away from this season due to issues beyond Fields' control.

[Soul]

I thought Fields was pretty horsefeathers last night, did not play well at all.

 

He wasn't great, but I also feel like the game plan did him no favors. It was again a lot of timing routes, very little designed plays to get him out of the pocket, almost no shots downfield (also a result of poor blocking). I would have liked to have seen more from Fields this year, did not expect him to be bottom 5 in many QB statistics, but at this point I refuse to take anything definitive away from this season due to issues beyond Fields' control.

 

I only hope that he understands the dynamic here - that this is a coaching staff about to be fired, and it's really next year and beyond, under a new staff and scheme, that matters. If he's going to be successful here, he's got to have that perspective and not let this bother him too much. Just take whatever on-the-field experience he can and move on to 2022.

[UMFan83]

Hilarious that Nagy defended his decision to punt on 4th and inches from the Bears 36 late in the 4th, claiming that he thought field position was most important there. The Packers had scored 5 TDs and 1 FG on their last 7 possessions, but I'm sure this time the defense would have stopped them right? It was the quintessential Matt Nagy decision. The team's last realistic chance to come back, their playoff hopes dangling by a thread, his job dangling by a thread, and he decides to go super conservative and play 'not to lose'. What a buffoon.

[UMFan83]

 

[gflore34]

I thought Fields was pretty horsefeathers last night, did not play well at all.

 

He wasn't great, but I also feel like the game plan did him no favors. It was again a lot of timing routes, very little designed plays to get him out of the pocket, almost no shots downfield (also a result of poor blocking). I would have liked to have seen more from Fields this year, did not expect him to be bottom 5 in many QB statistics, but at this point I refuse to take anything definitive away from this season due to issues beyond Fields' control.

 

I took that into consideration as well, perfect example was Montgomery picking up 20+ plus yards on a draw in 1st half I take this to mean GB pass rushers were getting up the field, why not go back to that in 2nd half? Along, with, maybe, a screen (does Nagy even know what a screen play is?) or anything else designed to take advantage of the D-Line getting too far up the field? Is really that hard? Is there no one on the coaching staff seeing what's happening out there?

[gflore34]

I know its Sports Mockery but, I've seen more far too many suggestions of poaching from the GB staff and upper management for the next iteration of Bears GM and or HC. Like Josh McDaniels, I'd stay light-years away from anything related to GB, they've never had anything but one of the best QBs in NFL history at the helm, Rodgers covers up a lot of flaws. Then again, they could be truly good but, with the Bears' luck, I wouldn't chance it.

[WrigleyField 22]

I know its Sports Mockery but, I've seen more far too many suggestions of poaching from the GB staff and upper management for the next iteration of Bears GM and or HC. Like Josh McDaniels, I'd stay light-years away from anything related to GB, they've never had anything but one of the best QBs in NFL history at the helm, Rodgers covers up a lot of flaws. Then again, they could be truly good but, with the Bears' luck, I wouldn't chance it.

I mean it's all probably at least a 50% luck at least, with the vast majority outcomes being a very mediocre and highly volatile season to season middle ground.

[UMFan83]

[raw]

I'm done talking about playcalling. It kinda is what it is at this point. I think we saw last year with Mitch when literally the only thing they could do with him is move the pocket around, that Green Bay can stop that. Sure they aren't playing towards Fields' strengths, but timing routes is stuff he needs to be able to do and work on, this year is just a learning process. Hopefully he is better at those things when a real offense needs him to do those in the future.

 

I thought Fields played OK. The pick 6 was bad. A couple high throws. I thought the high ball to Grant was more due to Grant slipping out of his break and the throw was mostly fine. Robinson made a great catch on a high one, that would have been a 1st down if it was a better throw (play before the 4th and short punt, IIRC). The INT at the end to Mooney was a bit high, but I'd like to see these guys start making plays. Not a great throw, but catchable. Robinson had shitty effort on a few of his targets as well. Kmet with a couple drops. Montgomery dropped one. Byrd could have had better awareness on the sideline incompletion (high throw to get over the defender). Just really tough to evaluate Justin right now because of the coaching and talent. The talent isn't going to get much better next year (possibly worse as you will downgrade from what ARob is supposed to be), so Fields is going to have to take the next step. Can't complain much about 23 points put up with what he has to work with. Probably puts up more if he has a better coaching staff who goes for it on 4th and inches or from the oppo 40 and of course if the game wasn't over and they weren't forced to go on 4th late.

[CubinNY]

I'm not that big of a football fan. I like the Bears, but I don't get a chance to watch them very often. My very uniformed opinion is that Fields has the making of a very good QB, but the play calling is just awful. They are placing him in jeopardy putting him out there. If I were the Mckasky family. I would fire the coach and GM and guard my investment until next season.

[raw]

I'm not that big of a football fan. I like the Bears, but I don't get a chance to watch them very often. My very uniformed opinion is that Fields has the making of a very good QB, but the play calling is just awful. They are placing him in jeopardy putting him out there. If I were the Mckasky family. I would fire the coach and GM and guard my investment until next season.

 

I don't buy that they are putting him in any danger. He hasn't taken the amount of abuse to where he will be shellshocked from getting hit in the future. He also isn't really developing any unfixable habits. If he doesn't turn out to be a good QB it's because he can't play, not because a coach ruined him in a span of 13 games.

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm not that big of a football fan. I like the Bears, but I don't get a chance to watch them very often. My very uniformed opinion is that Fields has the making of a very good QB, but the play calling is just awful. They are placing him in jeopardy putting him out there. If I were the Mckasky family. I would fire the coach and GM and guard my investment until next season.

 

I don't buy that they are putting him in any danger. He hasn't taken the amount of abuse to where he will be shellshocked from getting hit in the future. He also isn't really developing any unfixable habits. If he doesn't turn out to be a good QB it's because he can't play, not because a coach ruined him in a span of 13 games.

Agreed, I think the worst case is probably stalled and not regressive development.

 

Fans still have a really bad case of treating every up or down game as a trend instead of noise. We should expect noise from young QBs. Hopefully the next coach does a better job minimizing the low noise, but it all goes into the development.

 

I'd be really curious if the misthrows were injury related. I feel like he looked his most inaccurate last night, but if he's really not 100% his mechanics arent gonna be consistent I would guess.

[gflore34]

Don't know if its going to happen anytime soon however, I cannot wait for the season when GB no longer has Rodgers as their QB. I want to see how "great" of a young coach LaFleur is, along with how good the HC and DC are with Jordan Love as their QB.

 

Realistically, I strongly suspect GB will break the bank to sign Rodgers to whatever he wants for as long as wishes all others, Adams, etc. are expendable. That's OK, if and its a big if, the Bears get it right with the next GM and HC, they'll start beating the Packers and Rodgers with Justin Fields.

[UMFan83]

What a horsefeathering baffoon

 

 

No we can't possibly expect you to be perfect with your decision making but there are a whole lot of these types of things with him.

[UMFan83]

What a horsefeathering baffoon

 

 

No we can't possibly expect you to be perfect with your decision making but there are a whole lot of these types of things with him.

[raw]

What a horsefeathering baffoon

 

 

No we can't possibly expect you to be perfect with your decision making but there are a whole lot of these types of things with him.

 

We can expect perfect decisions, not perfect results. It's not even hard decisions. I was pissed he didn't go for 4th on the opening drive at the 40. I wasn't happy he kicked the 1st FG on 4th down from the 3. It was just asinine to punt the ball on 4th and inches down 11. It's not like they were in the shadows of the goal line either. You were 4-8 and getting fired. Why are you not playing to win? You're going to lose if you punt the ball to a QB that scored every time he touched the ball after the 1st quarter. Everyone expects you to lose, take risks. If you lose, so be it, you were supposed to anyway.

[jersey cubs fan]

what's a baffoon?

[Wilson A2000]

What a horsefeathering baffoon

 

 

No we can't possibly expect you to be perfect with your decision making but there are a whole lot of these types of things with him.

 

He wants to be fired

[minnesotacubsfan]

what's a baffoon?

 

 

its like a balloon and a buffalo, but not a balloon shaped like a buffalo