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Another future Dook bust going #1.

I don’t know. That guy seems to me like Draymond with talent.

 

Love the Pels pick of Daniels. They are doubling down on great on ball defenders, plus he sees the floor and can pass at 6’9”. I’m with this.

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I turned on the draft coverage for about 30 seconds and turned it off after about 30 seconds of SAS being SAS.
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LOL

 

It's even better if you expand it a bit.

 

In 2009 they pick Tyreke Evans 4th, Steph Curry goes 7th. They were also unlucky this year as they had the best odds of the top pick and an 82.3% chance of a top pick but got 4th. Blake Griffin went 1st and Harden went 3rd.

2011 Kawhi also went 15th (this is a stretch since 5 picks later but I'm including it).

2012 Harrison Barnes went also 7th

2013 they pick Ben McLemore 7th. CJ McCollum went 10th.

2017 they take DeAaron Fox 5th. Fine on the surface. Except they should have picked 3rd but dropped to 5th due to a pick swap with Philly. That pick swap was included in a salary dump of Nik Stauskas, Carl Landry and Jason Thompson in 2015 so they could sign ... wait for it ... Rajon Rondo, Marco Belinelli and Kosta Koufos. The third pick in 2017? Jayson Tatum.

Also 2017! They have the 10th pick. They select Zach Collins but trade him on draft day for Justin Jackson (15) and Harry Giles (20). Donovan Mitchell goes 13 and Bam Adebayo goes 14.

2019 they didn't even have a 1st rounder because it was included as part of the 2015 trade.

 

It's hilarious how inept they've been. In the last decade plus, despite a string of top 5-7 picks, they hit on Cousins and Fox and that's about it. Their next best move is acquiring Bogdan Bogdanovic in a trade but even him they let walk for nothing two years ago despite him averaging 18+ ppg the previous two years and being a decent 3 point shooter.

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all along Ivey seemed to me like the unrealistic, dream scenario for the Pistons, so i'm thrilled how it played out last night, now they can go get Bridges/Ayton and they'll be a really fun team
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I turned on the draft coverage for about 30 seconds and turned it off after about 30 seconds of SAS being SAS.

him examining every pick through the lens of "Knicks obsessive"

 

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Gonna have to watch more than my customary 10 minutes of Cavs basketball this year. I don't know how much anything costs or who is good anymore, but seems like figuring out the rest of the roster when you've got Garland/Mitchell/Mobley/Allen in place for a couple years is easier than finding a big scorer to be a part of that core.
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the east is deep

 

Not sure I like that trade for the Cavs at all.

 

seems to me like an easy win for the cavs. the firsts aren't going to very good.

 

Maybe not initially. Cleveland isn't exactly a destination known for keeping or attracting superstars. That said I think most of their players are signed for at least 3 years so might only affect the last 2 years.

 

I'm not saying they shouldn't be excited, I just think their ceiling is short of championship caliber, they don't have a top 10 player, they have virtually no valuable draft resources for 5 years, and they play in a market that isn't particularly attractive for FAs. I mean LeBron even had trouble attracting guys to Cleveland earlier in his career.

 

Would I take the Cavs situation over the Bulls? Probably. But even though the Bulls are in basketball hell they are net even on draft picks moving forward (they lose their pick next year but own a future Blazers pick) and 2 of their 3 highest paid players can be off the books after next season should they choose to go that route.

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Not sure I like that trade for the Cavs at all.

 

seems to me like an easy win for the cavs. the firsts aren't going to very good.

 

Maybe not initially. Cleveland isn't exactly a destination known for keeping or attracting superstars. That said I think most of their players are signed for at least 3 years so might only affect the last 2 years.

 

That's part of why you've gotta bite the bullet on a trade, right? Talking a Mitchell-caliber player onto your team in FA is an uphill battle, though after this year would've probably been easier since they're a pretty surefire playoff team without the injury parade of last year. Ideally you draft one with one of those picks, but I also understand that when you've hit on several successes in a row(Garland, Mobley, Allen, even Sexton being successful enough to have some trade value), that you might need to take advantage of them all being young and under contract.

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seems to me like an easy win for the cavs. the firsts aren't going to very good.

 

Maybe not initially. Cleveland isn't exactly a destination known for keeping or attracting superstars. That said I think most of their players are signed for at least 3 years so might only affect the last 2 years.

 

That's part of why you've gotta bite the bullet on a trade, right? Talking a Mitchell-caliber player onto your team in FA is an uphill battle, though after this year would've probably been easier since they're a pretty surefire playoff team without the injury parade of last year. Ideally you draft one with one of those picks, but I also understand that when you've hit on several successes in a row(Garland, Mobley, Allen, even Sexton being successful enough to have some trade value), that you might need to take advantage of them all being young and under contract.

 

It's a good point. teams in markets that arent LA, Miami, SF and NY have to make moves like this if they are too good to be in a position to draft superstars. Maybe it doesn't work out but they've put themselves in the best position they can be in.

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