Week 3: Chicago BEARS @ Atlanta Falcons

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

Via reddit:

 

The Falcons have now lost games in which they had a 99.9% chance to win and a 99.1% chance to win, respectively. The chances of that happening are roughly 1 in 990,000.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Via reddit:

 

The Falcons have now lost games in which they had a 99.9% chance to win and a 99.1% chance to win, respectively. The chances of that happening are roughly 1 in 990,000.

So you're saying there's a chance!

[We Got The Whole 9]

I didn't get to watch the game and I just now watched some highlights.

 

Pulling Mitch was surprising but the perfect move. We had stagnated once again. The highlights don't even show his incompletions, but from what I've read he was horribly inaccurate on his deep passes as always. As I watched his completions there was more than a few where he threw to the wrong target IMO and that was mostly because he was locking onto his primary and not reading the whole field. The pick was atrocious. This is him in a nutshell.

 

But then I watched Foles highlights and I wasn't impressed that much. He threw many balls off the back foot, i only saw a couple that he really stepped into. He threw into multiple coverage a couple times, had a few that should have been picked. He used his RBs effectively, the TD to ARob was 90% credit to ARob, the TDs to Graham and Miller were nice though. The GW was a beautiful play.

 

Love being 3-0. I think we can beat our next 3 opponents. They won't be easy but I feel confident that we can get 2 at least.

 

Robinson needs to not have completions taken away from him by opponents. That's 2 weeks in a row, and this one took 6 points off the board. Can't happen. He's too good for that. He had a good game, miles better than the first 2 weeks. Hopefully with Foles we can expect more. But he needs to stop getting punked.

[bjam12]

I didn't get to watch the game and I just now watched some highlights.

 

Pulling Mitch was surprising but the perfect move. We had stagnated once again. The highlights don't even show his incompletions, but from what I've read he was horribly inaccurate on his deep passes as always. As I watched his completions there was more than a few where he threw to the wrong target IMO and that was mostly because he was locking onto his primary and not reading the whole field. The pick was atrocious. This is him in a nutshell.

 

But then I watched Foles highlights and I wasn't impressed that much. He threw many balls off the back foot, i only saw a couple that he really stepped into. He threw into multiple coverage a couple times, had a few that should have been picked. He used his RBs effectively, the TD to ARob was 90% credit to ARob, the TDs to Graham and Miller were nice though. The GW was a beautiful play.

 

Love being 3-0. I think we can beat our next 3 opponents. They won't be easy but I feel confident that we can get 2 at least.

 

Robinson needs to not have completions taken away from him by opponents. That's 2 weeks in a row, and this one took 6 points off the board. Can't happen. He's too good for that. He had a good game, miles better than the first 2 weeks. Hopefully with Foles we can expect more. But he needs to stop getting punked.

 

Agree with your take for the most part. The two touchdowns that were taken away were beautiful balls by Foles too. He just looks so calm and comfortable back there.

[raw]

Thinking positive, it’s sure nice to have made a QB switch without losing a game. I’m not sure I’ve seen that before.

 

Yeah, this is a very important point. I said at one point this offseason that if you made a switch at QB at any point during the season, it would probably be a lost season. Because the typical QB switch involves a bad game by the starting QB. A bad game by a starting QB typically ends in a loss for that team. But 1 bad game doesn't always mean a switch between weeks. Typically, the QB is given another half at least to see if he can get back on track. And if he can't, that typically means a loss too. So, you're talking 2 losses before your 2nd QB gets a full week of starter's reps.

 

That's why I was so surprised a move was made, but it's also as good a reason as any to have made a move when they did. Because losing this and then a bad Trubisky half to start next week would've put the Bears potentially at 2-2 with a short week to get Foles ready. And this team probably wasn't coming back from a 2-3 start.

[WrigleyField 22]

Thinking positive, it’s sure nice to have made a QB switch without losing a game. I’m not sure I’ve seen that before.

 

Yeah, this is a very important point. I said at one point this offseason that if you made a switch at QB at any point during the season, it would probably be a lost season. Because the typical QB switch involves a bad game by the starting QB. A bad game by a starting QB typically ends in a loss for that team. But 1 bad game doesn't always mean a switch between weeks. Typically, the QB is given another half at least to see if he can get back on track. And if he can't, that typically means a loss too. So, you're talking 2 losses before your 2nd QB gets a full week of starter's reps.

 

That's why I was so surprised a move was made, but it's also as good a reason as any to have made a move when they did. Because losing this and then a bad Trubisky half to start next week would've put the Bears potentially at 2-2 with a short week to get Foles ready. And this team probably wasn't coming back from a 2-3 start.

Earl Bennet said it best.

https://twitter.com/EarlBBennett/status/1310297281351086081?s=19

[gflore34]

Thinking positive, it’s sure nice to have made a QB switch without losing a game. I’m not sure I’ve seen that before.

 

Yeah, this is a very important point. I said at one point this offseason that if you made a switch at QB at any point during the season, it would probably be a lost season. Because the typical QB switch involves a bad game by the starting QB. A bad game by a starting QB typically ends in a loss for that team. But 1 bad game doesn't always mean a switch between weeks. Typically, the QB is given another half at least to see if he can get back on track. And if he can't, that typically means a loss too. So, you're talking 2 losses before your 2nd QB gets a full week of starter's reps.

 

That's why I was so surprised a move was made, but it's also as good a reason as any to have made a move when they did. Because losing this and then a bad Trubisky half to start next week would've put the Bears potentially at 2-2 with a short week to get Foles ready. And this team probably wasn't coming back from a 2-3 start.

Earl Bennet said it best.

https://twitter.com/EarlBBennett/status/1310297281351086081?s=19

 

The play calling reflected Nagy' disbelief - run on first down to gain some yardage to make second and third down manageable for Mitch. With manageable seconds and thirds Mitch can look for quick slants to Robinson, easy, nothing requiring him to analyze, look off, etc.

[BigbadB]

I didn't get to watch the game and I just now watched some highlights.

 

Pulling Mitch was surprising but the perfect move. We had stagnated once again. The highlights don't even show his incompletions, but from what I've read he was horribly inaccurate on his deep passes as always. As I watched his completions there was more than a few where he threw to the wrong target IMO and that was mostly because he was locking onto his primary and not reading the whole field. The pick was atrocious. This is him in a nutshell.

 

But then I watched Foles highlights and I wasn't impressed that much. He threw many balls off the back foot, i only saw a couple that he really stepped into. He threw into multiple coverage a couple times, had a few that should have been picked. He used his RBs effectively, the TD to ARob was 90% credit to ARob, the TDs to Graham and Miller were nice though. The GW was a beautiful play.

 

Love being 3-0. I think we can beat our next 3 opponents. They won't be easy but I feel confident that we can get 2 at least.

 

Robinson needs to not have completions taken away from him by opponents. That's 2 weeks in a row, and this one took 6 points off the board. Can't happen. He's too good for that. He had a good game, miles better than the first 2 weeks. Hopefully with Foles we can expect more. But he needs to stop getting punked.

 

I find it a bit ludicrous to bag on Foles' abilities in this game. He came into a game with a team he had zero previous history of game time action with. He came into a game with a huge deficit to overcome. He came into a game where there was quite likely a bit of adversity in pulling a QB out of a game that had yet to lose a game this year and already had one 4th quarter comeback on his resume for the year. And yet, he threw 5 TD passes in less than a full half of play. The TD to ARob was perfectly thrown. And I'll never stop arguing that that play should have been a touchdown. ARob had control of the ball in flight and he maintained that possession to the ground. The opponent never had possession and only stripped it away after they were on the ground. ARob had possession and had all kinds of body parts on the ground to rule it a catch.

 

Now, I'm not calling Foles the next coming of Brees here. But, he clearly is an NFL QB who can make solid throws and read defenses. He put twice as many points on the board against the same defense as Trubisky and in less time than Trubisky while also having 2 more scores taken off the board. Foles would have had some amazing numbers if some of his earlier throws were actually caught. Graham dropped an easy one. Miller dropped a perfect throw in the endzone. ARob got his ball stripped away from him. If I had to guess, some of these receivers had a tough time with those balls because they aren't used to seeing a perfectly thrown spiral his them in the hands. Sure, he got lucky on a couple of throws, also, but I've seen the best QB's in the league get lucky on some throws occasionally. They also get picked off once in awhile. Foles is going to have trouble in the pocket with this line occasionally. But, I think he's already got DB's and LB's backing up a bit more since he had already shown he can connect on passes beyond 10 yards. That's what this offense needed.

 

Credit to the Bears coaching staff for making the move and credit to Foles for turning what appeared to be a loss yesterday into a win. Wonder if they will look to the rookie Pierce to replace Cohen.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I didn't get to watch the game and I just now watched some highlights.

 

Pulling Mitch was surprising but the perfect move. We had stagnated once again. The highlights don't even show his incompletions, but from what I've read he was horribly inaccurate on his deep passes as always. As I watched his completions there was more than a few where he threw to the wrong target IMO and that was mostly because he was locking onto his primary and not reading the whole field. The pick was atrocious. This is him in a nutshell.

 

But then I watched Foles highlights and I wasn't impressed that much. He threw many balls off the back foot, i only saw a couple that he really stepped into. He threw into multiple coverage a couple times, had a few that should have been picked. He used his RBs effectively, the TD to ARob was 90% credit to ARob, the TDs to Graham and Miller were nice though. The GW was a beautiful play.

 

Love being 3-0. I think we can beat our next 3 opponents. They won't be easy but I feel confident that we can get 2 at least.

 

Robinson needs to not have completions taken away from him by opponents. That's 2 weeks in a row, and this one took 6 points off the board. Can't happen. He's too good for that. He had a good game, miles better than the first 2 weeks. Hopefully with Foles we can expect more. But he needs to stop getting punked.

 

I find it a bit ludicrous to bag on Foles' abilities in this game. He came into a game with a team he had zero previous history of game time action with. He came into a game with a huge deficit to overcome. He came into a game where there was quite likely a bit of adversity in pulling a QB out of a game that had yet to lose a game this year and already had one 4th quarter comeback on his resume for the year. And yet, he threw 5 TD passes in less than a full half of play. The TD to ARob was perfectly thrown. And I'll never stop arguing that that play should have been a touchdown. ARob had control of the ball in flight and he maintained that possession to the ground. The opponent never had possession and only stripped it away after they were on the ground. ARob had possession and had all kinds of body parts on the ground to rule it a catch.

 

Now, I'm not calling Foles the next coming of Brees here. But, he clearly is an NFL QB who can make solid throws and read defenses. He put twice as many points on the board against the same defense as Trubisky and in less time than Trubisky while also having 2 more scores taken off the board. Foles would have had some amazing numbers if some of his earlier throws were actually caught. Graham dropped an easy one. Miller dropped a perfect throw in the endzone. ARob got his ball stripped away from him. If I had to guess, some of these receivers had a tough time with those balls because they aren't used to seeing a perfectly thrown spiral his them in the hands. Sure, he got lucky on a couple of throws, also, but I've seen the best QB's in the league get lucky on some throws occasionally. They also get picked off once in awhile. Foles is going to have trouble in the pocket with this line occasionally. But, I think he's already got DB's and LB's backing up a bit more since he had already shown he can connect on passes beyond 10 yards. That's what this offense needed.

 

Credit to the Bears coaching staff for making the move and credit to Foles for turning what appeared to be a loss yesterday into a win. Wonder if they will look to the rookie Pierce to replace Cohen.

 

 

he came into the game against one of the worst D's in the league that were playing simple bar tricks on a young, terribly unsystematic QB. He's lucky to have won the game, and I'm not sold on Foles going forward given his past play, but I would have thought he could have more success against a team like Atlanta

[raw]

I didn't get to watch the game and I just now watched some highlights.

 

Pulling Mitch was surprising but the perfect move. We had stagnated once again. The highlights don't even show his incompletions, but from what I've read he was horribly inaccurate on his deep passes as always. As I watched his completions there was more than a few where he threw to the wrong target IMO and that was mostly because he was locking onto his primary and not reading the whole field. The pick was atrocious. This is him in a nutshell.

 

But then I watched Foles highlights and I wasn't impressed that much. He threw many balls off the back foot, i only saw a couple that he really stepped into. He threw into multiple coverage a couple times, had a few that should have been picked. He used his RBs effectively, the TD to ARob was 90% credit to ARob, the TDs to Graham and Miller were nice though. The GW was a beautiful play.

 

Love being 3-0. I think we can beat our next 3 opponents. They won't be easy but I feel confident that we can get 2 at least.

 

Robinson needs to not have completions taken away from him by opponents. That's 2 weeks in a row, and this one took 6 points off the board. Can't happen. He's too good for that. He had a good game, miles better than the first 2 weeks. Hopefully with Foles we can expect more. But he needs to stop getting punked.

 

I find it a bit ludicrous to bag on Foles' abilities in this game. He came into a game with a team he had zero previous history of game time action with. He came into a game with a huge deficit to overcome. He came into a game where there was quite likely a bit of adversity in pulling a QB out of a game that had yet to lose a game this year and already had one 4th quarter comeback on his resume for the year. And yet, he threw 5 TD passes in less than a full half of play. The TD to ARob was perfectly thrown. And I'll never stop arguing that that play should have been a touchdown. ARob had control of the ball in flight and he maintained that possession to the ground. The opponent never had possession and only stripped it away after they were on the ground. ARob had possession and had all kinds of body parts on the ground to rule it a catch.

 

Now, I'm not calling Foles the next coming of Brees here. But, he clearly is an NFL QB who can make solid throws and read defenses. He put twice as many points on the board against the same defense as Trubisky and in less time than Trubisky while also having 2 more scores taken off the board. Foles would have had some amazing numbers if some of his earlier throws were actually caught. Graham dropped an easy one. Miller dropped a perfect throw in the endzone. ARob got his ball stripped away from him. If I had to guess, some of these receivers had a tough time with those balls because they aren't used to seeing a perfectly thrown spiral his them in the hands. Sure, he got lucky on a couple of throws, also, but I've seen the best QB's in the league get lucky on some throws occasionally. They also get picked off once in awhile. Foles is going to have trouble in the pocket with this line occasionally. But, I think he's already got DB's and LB's backing up a bit more since he had already shown he can connect on passes beyond 10 yards. That's what this offense needed.

 

Credit to the Bears coaching staff for making the move and credit to Foles for turning what appeared to be a loss yesterday into a win. Wonder if they will look to the rookie Pierce to replace Cohen.

 

 

he came into the game against one of the worst D's in the league that were playing simple bar tricks on a young, terribly unsystematic QB. He's lucky to have won the game, and I'm not sold on Foles going forward given his past play, but I would have thought he could have more success against a team like Atlanta

 

3-10, with a TD and an INT on throws over 15 yards, and a lucky break that those numbers weren't 2-10, with 2 INTs. He wasn't masterful out there yesterday, but did the job. I'm not sold on Foles either, and I don't think many are. But when he has had success in this league, it's been with the guys coaching him on the sidelines. Nagy has schemed guys open and made it as easy as possible for Mitch. Maybe he throws more at Foles and he can't handle it. But even then he can always scale back and give Foles the easy reads/throws. Foles historically doesn't miss those, even if the ball does flutter there at times.

[UMFan83]

Regardless of how you feel about Foles the rest of this season, yesterday's benching all but confirmed that the Bears are on yet another journey to find a franchise QB. What do you think the short term and long term plan is at QB? The Bears will not be bad enough to draft a QB at the top of the 1st round. You can find QBs lower in the first round with high upside but the risk is a lot higher. And as much as I'd love someone like Trevor Lawrence, the Bears have pissed away enough draft capital in recent years, and with the cap flattening or possibly going down, the Bears are going to need the cheapish production that draft picks bring.

 

So I guess short term you roll with Foles this year and next assuming he doesn't completely suck and then see what your options are? At that point the Bears may be at the end of their quasi competitive window and need to do some sort of rebuild anyways, though its possible they keep the defense productive long enough to avoid a complete collapse.

Edited September 28, 2020 by UMFan83

[minnesotacubsfan]

Regardless of how you feel about Foles the rest of this season, yesterday's benching all but confirmed that the Bears are on yet another journey to find a franchise QB. What do you think the short term plan is at QB? The Bears will not be bad enough to draft a QB at the top of the 1st round. You can find QBs lower in the first round with high upside but the risk is a lot higher. And as much as I'd love someone like Trevor Lawrence, the Bears have pissed away enough draft capital in recent years, and with the cap flattening or possibly going down, the Bears are going to need the cheapish production that draft picks bring.

 

So I guess short term you roll with Foles this year and next assuming he doesn't completely suck and then see what your options are? At that point the Bears may be at the end of their quasi competitive window and need to do some sort of rebuild anyways, though its possible they keep the defense productive long enough to avoid a complete collapse.

 

I look to the Bears to re-invent the T formation, but this time with no QB. Its really our safest bet

[gflore34]

 

I find it a bit ludicrous to bag on Foles' abilities in this game. He came into a game with a team he had zero previous history of game time action with. He came into a game with a huge deficit to overcome. He came into a game where there was quite likely a bit of adversity in pulling a QB out of a game that had yet to lose a game this year and already had one 4th quarter comeback on his resume for the year. And yet, he threw 5 TD passes in less than a full half of play. The TD to ARob was perfectly thrown. And I'll never stop arguing that that play should have been a touchdown. ARob had control of the ball in flight and he maintained that possession to the ground. The opponent never had possession and only stripped it away after they were on the ground. ARob had possession and had all kinds of body parts on the ground to rule it a catch.

 

Now, I'm not calling Foles the next coming of Brees here. But, he clearly is an NFL QB who can make solid throws and read defenses. He put twice as many points on the board against the same defense as Trubisky and in less time than Trubisky while also having 2 more scores taken off the board. Foles would have had some amazing numbers if some of his earlier throws were actually caught. Graham dropped an easy one. Miller dropped a perfect throw in the endzone. ARob got his ball stripped away from him. If I had to guess, some of these receivers had a tough time with those balls because they aren't used to seeing a perfectly thrown spiral his them in the hands. Sure, he got lucky on a couple of throws, also, but I've seen the best QB's in the league get lucky on some throws occasionally. They also get picked off once in awhile. Foles is going to have trouble in the pocket with this line occasionally. But, I think he's already got DB's and LB's backing up a bit more since he had already shown he can connect on passes beyond 10 yards. That's what this offense needed.

 

Credit to the Bears coaching staff for making the move and credit to Foles for turning what appeared to be a loss yesterday into a win. Wonder if they will look to the rookie Pierce to replace Cohen.

 

 

he came into the game against one of the worst D's in the league that were playing simple bar tricks on a young, terribly unsystematic QB. He's lucky to have won the game, and I'm not sold on Foles going forward given his past play, but I would have thought he could have more success against a team like Atlanta

 

3-10, with a TD and an INT on throws over 15 yards, and a lucky break that those numbers weren't 2-10, with 2 INTs. He wasn't masterful out there yesterday, but did the job. I'm not sold on Foles either, and I don't think many are. But when he has had success in this league, it's been with the guys coaching him on the sidelines. Nagy has schemed guys open and made it as easy as possible for Mitch. Maybe he throws more at Foles and he can't handle it. But even then he can always scale back and give Foles the easy reads/throws. Foles historically doesn't miss those, even if the ball does flutter there at times.

 

I believe you can throw more at Foles, what Nagy was attempting with Trubisky is not going work in today's NFL. Trying to get a lead, then have your QB eat up the clock while relying on your defense to get stops doesn't work, not with the emphasis on offense and the amount of holding, etc. that's permissible. Look at the Hill TD yesterday, there were two blatant holds at the line of scrimmage, you could see the Bears' jerseys being pulled. The Bears have to score, score, score, Nagy knows this, think there's a good chance he will be more aggressive and open the offense up with Foles.

[raw]

I think the plan is Foles and draft a QB next year. I think history has shown Pace doesn't give a horsefeathers about pissing away draft capital or the future cap. If the opportunity presents itself to trade up to get a QB (Lawrence will be too far up), I think he'll move up in the 1st to take one. If not, I think they take one in the 2nd and try to develop him for a year or two behind Foles.

 

Of course, Pace has also not shown a willingness to bring in a developmental QB.

[WrigleyField 22]

I think the plan is Foles and draft a QB next year. I think history has shown Pace doesn't give a horsefeathers about pissing away draft capital or the future cap. If the opportunity presents itself to trade up to get a QB (Lawrence will be too far up), I think he'll move up in the 1st to take one. If not, I think they take one in the 2nd and try to develop him for a year or two behind Foles.

 

Of course, Pace has also not shown a willingness to bring in a developmental QB.

Yea, they're already out of range for Lawrence. With the Big Ten resuming play, Fields will likely play himself out of their range as well.

 

I guess the QB from North Dakota (Trey Lance) is being talked about as a possible first rounder. Other guys that might draw day 1 or day 2 interest... Jamie Newman (though he opted out), Kyle Trask, KJ Costello, Sam Ehlinger, Kellen Mond.. We'll see if any play themselves into solidly R1 prospects where Pace would feel the need to trade up for any into the top 10 to secure them.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I think the plan is Foles and draft a QB next year. I think history has shown Pace doesn't give a horsefeathers about pissing away draft capital or the future cap. If the opportunity presents itself to trade up to get a QB (Lawrence will be too far up), I think he'll move up in the 1st to take one. If not, I think they take one in the 2nd and try to develop him for a year or two behind Foles.

 

Of course, Pace has also not shown a willingness to bring in a developmental QB.

 

 

why draft a developmental qb when you can bankroll years of draft picks on the guy who drives a modest car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

full disclosure: Trubisky was the guy I wanted in that draft as well. thank god I dont draft for the bears, but no way would I have traded up

[minnesotacubsfan]

I think the plan is Foles and draft a QB next year. I think history has shown Pace doesn't give a horsefeathers about pissing away draft capital or the future cap. If the opportunity presents itself to trade up to get a QB (Lawrence will be too far up), I think he'll move up in the 1st to take one. If not, I think they take one in the 2nd and try to develop him for a year or two behind Foles.

 

Of course, Pace has also not shown a willingness to bring in a developmental QB.

Yea, they're already out of range for Lawrence. With the Big Ten resuming play, Fields will likely play himself out of their range as well.

 

I guess the QB from North Dakota (Trey Lance) is being talked about as a possible first rounder. Other guys that might draw day 1 or day 2 interest... Jamie Newman (though he opted out), Kyle Trask, KJ Costello, Sam Ehlinger, Kellen Mond.. We'll see if any play themselves into solidly R1 prospects where Pace would feel the need to trade up for any into the top 10 to secure them.

 

if we draft a NDS Bison I'll eat my horsefeathering keyboard

[WrigleyField 22]

I think the plan is Foles and draft a QB next year. I think history has shown Pace doesn't give a horsefeathers about pissing away draft capital or the future cap. If the opportunity presents itself to trade up to get a QB (Lawrence will be too far up), I think he'll move up in the 1st to take one. If not, I think they take one in the 2nd and try to develop him for a year or two behind Foles.

 

Of course, Pace has also not shown a willingness to bring in a developmental QB.

 

 

why draft a developmental qb when you can bankroll years of draft picks on the guy who drives a modest car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

full disclosure: Trubisky was the guy I wanted in that draft as well. thank god I dont draft for the bears, but no way would I have traded up

I mean in the grand scheme of it the trade up part wasn't that big of the deal... definitely not bankrolling "years of picks". Whiffing on the pick when the other consensus Rd 1 QBs ended up being worlds better was the issue.

[WrigleyField 22]

I think the plan is Foles and draft a QB next year. I think history has shown Pace doesn't give a horsefeathers about pissing away draft capital or the future cap. If the opportunity presents itself to trade up to get a QB (Lawrence will be too far up), I think he'll move up in the 1st to take one. If not, I think they take one in the 2nd and try to develop him for a year or two behind Foles.

 

Of course, Pace has also not shown a willingness to bring in a developmental QB.

Yea, they're already out of range for Lawrence. With the Big Ten resuming play, Fields will likely play himself out of their range as well.

 

I guess the QB from North Dakota (Trey Lance) is being talked about as a possible first rounder. Other guys that might draw day 1 or day 2 interest... Jamie Newman (though he opted out), Kyle Trask, KJ Costello, Sam Ehlinger, Kellen Mond.. We'll see if any play themselves into solidly R1 prospects where Pace would feel the need to trade up for any into the top 10 to secure them.

 

if we draft a NDS Bison I'll eat my horsefeathering keyboard

will pay to watch on your Only Fans account.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I think the plan is Foles and draft a QB next year. I think history has shown Pace doesn't give a horsefeathers about pissing away draft capital or the future cap. If the opportunity presents itself to trade up to get a QB (Lawrence will be too far up), I think he'll move up in the 1st to take one. If not, I think they take one in the 2nd and try to develop him for a year or two behind Foles.

 

Of course, Pace has also not shown a willingness to bring in a developmental QB.

 

 

why draft a developmental qb when you can bankroll years of draft picks on the guy who drives a modest car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

full disclosure: Trubisky was the guy I wanted in that draft as well. thank god I dont draft for the bears, but no way would I have traded up

I mean in the grand scheme of it the trade up part wasn't that big of the deal... definitely not bankrolling "years of picks". Whiffing on the pick when the other consensus Rd 1 QBs ended up being worlds better was the issue.

 

 

actually, had SF traded the pick to someone like Houston (the threat they threw at Pace iirc) who in turn drafted Trubisky leaving us with Watson/Mahomes is kind of the issue. And if SF couldn't find a taker for their pick, we'd get him anyway w/o loosing our other pick. It was an issue no matter how you look at it.

 

 

the fact Mahomes turned out to be Jesus was something no one saw.

Edited September 28, 2020 by minnesotacubsfan

[KingCubsFan]

I think the plan is Foles and draft a QB next year. I think history has shown Pace doesn't give a horsefeathers about pissing away draft capital or the future cap. If the opportunity presents itself to trade up to get a QB (Lawrence will be too far up), I think he'll move up in the 1st to take one. If not, I think they take one in the 2nd and try to develop him for a year or two behind Foles.

 

Of course, Pace has also not shown a willingness to bring in a developmental QB.

The Bears have too many holes to waste a late first round or second round pick on a developmental QB. Unless there's a unique circumstance where a top QB falls for some reason, I'd rather devote picks and money elsewhere during the rest of this competitive window and ride the cheap starting QB with a history of being average.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Yea, they're already out of range for Lawrence. With the Big Ten resuming play, Fields will likely play himself out of their range as well.

 

I guess the QB from North Dakota (Trey Lance) is being talked about as a possible first rounder. Other guys that might draw day 1 or day 2 interest... Jamie Newman (though he opted out), Kyle Trask, KJ Costello, Sam Ehlinger, Kellen Mond.. We'll see if any play themselves into solidly R1 prospects where Pace would feel the need to trade up for any into the top 10 to secure them.

 

if we draft a NDS Bison I'll eat my horsefeathering keyboard

will pay to watch on your Only Fans account.

 

I looooathe that football team

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Why are we talking as if the competitive window is currently open?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Why are we talking as if the competitive window is currently open?

 

 

who's doing that? we're talking about creating a new window

[WrigleyField 22]

Why are we talking as if the competitive window is currently open?

Its like a really old window that doesn't operate well right now, but on a good day with the right conditions could slide open just like the old days. But you might also bust the whole thing if you try and force it too much one day.