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more accurately, he left the game with a lead after giving up 4 runs in 5 innings because the offense scored 6

 

So.....now it's not a quality start? I've lost sight of your point (as have you).

 

yeah, you totally owned my ass

well, he actually did

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But they did?

 

That was directed at the people arguing they shouldn’t, not the bears themselves

 

I argued that they shouldn't play for the bye. They did, didn't get it, got a superior team in the playoffs, and lost the game. Not sure what your point is.

yup. its the one thing I disagree with you about because I felt we could beat either teams and we should have
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So.....now it's not a quality start? I've lost sight of your point (as have you).

 

yeah, you totally owned my ass

well, he actually did

 

by pointing out a trivial mistake in my comparison? that's where you want to go with this? you are not being rational. you feel that people are treating trubisky unfairly, so you're willingly turning into a meatball by going way too far in the opposite direction.

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yeah, you totally owned my ass

well, he actually did

 

by pointing out a trivial mistake in my comparison? that's where you want to go with this? you are not being rational. you feel that people are treating trubisky unfairly, so you're willingly turning into a meatball by going way too far in the opposite direction.

 

 

trivial? you're the one who suggested raw "owned" your ass. you offered the comparison

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Just got back from watching the game at a friend's house.

 

First off: I argued to overlook the one game with the four uprights. While the argument was perfectly logical, I now hate myself for having made it.

 

Second off: Having read through the whole thread, Nagy doesn't seem to be taking enough share of the blame for the horrible play calling in the first half.

 

Third: Goony, wtf? You're smarter than that.

 

Fourth: Theo better come up big with something to distract me now.

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well, he actually did

 

by pointing out a trivial mistake in my comparison? that's where you want to go with this? you are not being rational. you feel that people are treating trubisky unfairly, so you're willingly turning into a meatball by going way too far in the opposite direction.

 

 

trivial? you're the one who suggested raw "owned" your ass. you offered the comparison

 

you're not arguing anything in good faith, you're just looking for stupid little diversions to claim victory with. the mistake in the continuity of my dumb little joke comparison is not relevant to the argument.

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Just got back from watching the game at a friend's house.

 

First off: I argued to overlook the one game with the four uprights. While the argument was perfectly logical, I now hate myself for having made it.

 

Second off: Having read through the whole thread, Nagy doesn't seem to be taking enough share of the blame for the horrible play calling in the first half.

 

Third: Goony, wtf? You're smarter than that.

 

Fourth: Theo better come up big with something to distract me now.

 

 

Second point is key, all those open looks in the 4th quarter where there in the first half.

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We:

 

- rushed for more yards (65 - 42)

- passed for more yards (291 - 258)

- averaged a full yard more per play (5.7 - 4.7)

- won the turnover battle (2 - 0)

- only had three penalties (3 - 3)

 

The biggest key I can see going against the Bears was third down efficiency.

 

Looking at all that, we really should have won this football game.

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Just got back from watching the game at a friend's house.

 

First off: I argued to overlook the one game with the four uprights. While the argument was perfectly logical, I now hate myself for having made it.

 

Second off: Having read through the whole thread, Nagy doesn't seem to be taking enough share of the blame for the horrible play calling in the first half.

 

Third: Goony, wtf? You're smarter than that.

 

Fourth: Theo better come up big with something to distract me now.

 

 

Second point is key, all those open looks in the 4th quarter where there in the first half.

 

After thinking about it I think his game plan was to go Conservative much of the game and either you are winning and keep going (like they did against the Rams and 49ers) or you open it up and maybe catch the opponent off guard. The broadcast pointed out how on one of those big plays late they faked a screen pass which they had been doing all game, and the defense bit and let the receiver get space to make a long play. In another, the DB bit on a fake thinking Robinson was running a hook route and instead he studdered and went back up field and caught a deep ball. The DB had seen that look all day and tried to jump it for an INT but ended up burned.

 

That said, the Bears were the better team, the better defense, probably better offense and they were at home. I would have loved to have seen Nagy have more confidence in his offense and just light up a weak secondary from the start. When your special teams is mediocre and your kicker is beyond bad and you are vastly better you don’t want to put yourself in a position to lose like that.

 

Nagy has proven to be a good coach and offensive mind but has had a habit of going super conservative at times (the chiefs playoff game last year, packers game, the rams and 49ers games even though they won). I’d like to see him trust his offense more. I get that they have an amazing defense and he wants to play to that but I think he goes too far sometimes*

 

 

* - I don’t know anything about football

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Just got back from watching the game at a friend's house.

 

First off: I argued to overlook the one game with the four uprights. While the argument was perfectly logical, I now hate myself for having made it.

 

Second off: Having read through the whole thread, Nagy doesn't seem to be taking enough share of the blame for the horrible play calling in the first half.

 

Third: Goony, wtf? You're smarter than that.

 

Fourth: Theo better come up big with something to distract me now.

 

 

Second point is key, all those open looks in the 4th quarter where there in the first half.

 

After thinking about it I think his game plan was to go Conservative much of the game and either you are winning and keep going (like they did against the Rams and 49ers) or you open it up and maybe catch the opponent off guard. The broadcast pointed out how on one of those big plays late they faked a screen pass which they had been doing all game, and the defense bit and let the receiver get space to make a long play. In another, the DB bit on a fake thinking Robinson was running a hook route and instead he studdered and went back up field and caught a deep ball. The DB had seen that look all day and tried to jump it for an INT but ended up burned.

 

That said, the Bears were the better team, the better defense, probably better offense and they were at home. I would have loved to have seen Nagy have more confidence in his offense and just light up a weak secondary from the start. When your special teams is mediocre and your kicker is beyond bad and you are vastly better you don’t want to put yourself in a position to lose like that.

 

Nagy has proven to be a good coach and offensive mind but has had a habit of going super conservative at times (the chiefs playoff game last year, packers game, the rams and 49ers games even though they won). I’d like to see him trust his offense more. I get that they have an amazing defense and he wants to play to that but I think he goes too far sometimes*

 

 

* - I don’t know anything about football

 

 

In many ways this was Mitch' rookie season, I believe we'll see more trust from Nagy and improvement from Mitch next season.

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I guess this slow mo shows that Parkey's FG was tipped. He's still gone before next season.

 

 

Was just coming to post that. Still should have hit it

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I guess this slow mo shows that Parkey's FG was tipped. He's still gone before next season.

 

 

Well, that chills how I felt about Parkey on that kick, but I still dont think I gamble on him next season. He needs strong competition and the decry of doubt.

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Per ESPN, Robbie Gould was at the game today as a fan.

 

Chicago was been unable to stabilize its kicker situation since the club released Robbie Gould, the franchise's all-time leading scorer, prior to the 2016 season. Gould, who is 82 of 85 in field goal attempts since leaving the Bears, attended Sunday's playoff loss as a fan.
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I guess this slow mo shows that Parkey's FG was tipped. He's still gone before next season.

 

 

Well, that chills how I felt about Parkey on that kick, but I still dont think I gamble on him next season. He needs strong competition and the decry of doubt.

 

I don't think the Bears can just leave it at strong competition. Maybe the Bears can try to trade him, but more likely release him and eat his dead money. But will they be able to re-sign Callahan or Massie after signing Gould or another kicker that's going to cost $7 million? Bears aren't in a great spot to be blowing money.

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