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It’s not me, it’s Yu

OleMissCub

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javy knows my name Myrtle Beach Pelicans

javy knows my name

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Seriously. He needs to retire. Don't want to deal with this horsefeathers for 5 more years.

 

So you want to pay millions towards the LT with absolutely nothing to show for it?

 

If he retires, he forfeits his remaining years, right?

 

Either way, I think jamfan or whatever blushed at that overreaction

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If he retires, he forfeits his remaining years, right?

 

Looks that way:

 

Typically, if a player retires 100% voluntarily, his salary will end as soon as he has received the full amount earned. For example, a Major League Baseball player earns his salary during the baseball season (which ends in September or October), but he may be on a 12-month salary payment schedule, so if he retires at the end of the season, he'll keep getting paychecks through the end of December. If he retires mid-season and it is 100% voluntary, his salary will be pro-rated.

 

If he retires due to injury, or if he is released by his club due to diminished skills (including those caused by injury), then the terms of his contract and collective bargaining agreement will control what happens. An injured player or even just a released player who has a guaranteed contract for five years will typically get paid for five years even if his injury occurred in year 1 of the contract.

 

A player without any guarantees in his contract or collective bargaining agreement will generally not get paid past the date of his release.

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Seriously. He needs to retire. Don't want to deal with this horsefeathers for 5 more years.

Seriously he’s winning playoff games for us

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Maybe Yu's just following the example set by Roger Clemens at the end of his career. If you only throw half the season, you can make it to the playoffs and still be fresh.
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If he retires, he forfeits his remaining years, right?

 

Looks that way:

 

Typically, if a player retires 100% voluntarily, his salary will end as soon as he has received the full amount earned. For example, a Major League Baseball player earns his salary during the baseball season (which ends in September or October), but he may be on a 12-month salary payment schedule, so if he retires at the end of the season, he'll keep getting paychecks through the end of December. If he retires mid-season and it is 100% voluntary, his salary will be pro-rated.

 

If he retires due to injury, or if he is released by his club due to diminished skills (including those caused by injury), then the terms of his contract and collective bargaining agreement will control what happens. An injured player or even just a released player who has a guaranteed contract for five years will typically get paid for five years even if his injury occurred in year 1 of the contract.

 

A player without any guarantees in his contract or collective bargaining agreement will generally not get paid past the date of his release.

 

You thought a player could retire in the first year of a 6 year contract and get paid for all 6 years?

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I thought it depended on the circumstances of the retirement

The players union would throw a horsefeathers fit if he retired voluntarily.

champaignchris Draft Eligible

champaignchris

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The main thing that bothered me about that whole ARod rant is that it made it sound like the Cubs passed on trying to resign Arrieta in favor of Darvish, when multiple sources - including Arrieta himself - have said that the Cubs offered Arrieta significantly more in guaranteed money than he ended up signing for before the Cubs signed Darvish.

 

The only reason Arrieta isn’t a Cub is because Arrieta didn’t want to be a Cub. I dislike the rewriting of history to make it so the Cubs messed up by choosing Darvish over Arrieta.

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The main thing that bothered me about that whole ARod rant is that it made it sound like the Cubs passed on trying to resign Arrieta in favor of Darvish, when multiple sources - including Arrieta himself - have said that the Cubs offered Arrieta significantly more in guaranteed money than he ended up signing for before the Cubs signed Darvish.

 

The only reason Arrieta isn’t a Cub is because Arrieta didn’t want to be a Cub. I dislike the rewriting of history to make it so the Cubs messed up by choosing Darvish over Arrieta.

 

I don't follow, was it a money thing or were there other reasons he didn't want to be a Cub? Seems like he and his family really enjoyed being with the organization.

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From MLB Trade Rumors

 

 

Arrieta, who ultimately signed with the Philadelphia organization later in the winter, tells Wittenmyer that he does not really believe that Epstein expected to get a deal done when he called with a “take it or leave it” proposal of six years and $120MM. That statement reflects previous reporting on the perceptions of both sides to that conversation.

 

While he emphasized that he harbors no ill will at all toward Epstein or the Cubs organization, Arrieta says that approach was a non-starter, even though he had yet to receive a formal contract offer to that point:

 

“[T]hey weren’t willing to negotiate at all, and that wasn’t acceptable for me,” Arrieta tells Wittenmyer. “I bet on myself just like I have my entire career and ended up getting a good deal.”

 

There's more to the story after the paragraphs above.

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17 Seconds

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imagine how cool it would be if returned and dominated down the stretch and in the playoffs

 

then realize that it still would only be like 25% as cool as what schwarber did

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Andy

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imagine how cool it would be if returned and dominated down the stretch and in the playoffs

 

then realize that it still would only be like 25% as cool as what schwarber did

I think you're overshooting by about 24.5% there.

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