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If it is just Britton (if it's a larger deal, Gausmen, Bundy, etc. I'd get it) I'd be pretty surprised and upset if it's any of the rumored guys from the ML roster going for him, especially this early in the offseason.

 

I almost wonder if Montgomery would be the guy here. The Orioles can still put up a facade of competitiveness since they have Brach and Givens at the end of the pen, and Montgomery would definitely have a home in that rotation. The Cubs lose out on his swingman abilities, but they don't need him as a true LHRP with Britton and Wilson(plus Edwards's splits), and they could more confidently dive into the bottom of the SP FA/trade market knowing that they have that role open if they luck into someone better.

I kind of was wondering if Monty for Britton would be a thing when this first came up but didn't mention it. It makes sense for both teams, Orioles want some SP (for cheap I believe) and you laid out the reasons Monty isn't a huge need if Britton is acquired. Also I could see us having soured a bit on Monty this year, I think some of it was due to him being jerked around and never getting in a real role, but I could see the FO not liking the wildness out of him on top of Theo's comments about getting less wild. It makes a good amount of sense, IMO.

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I normally don’t pass along rumors from this particular person because he seems to have the same type of reputation that Sean Sears does on Twitter, but since he is actually placing a timeline on it and another person backed him up I felt like It was worth posting...take with a grain of salt though..

 

 

The first twitter account is from a regular poster at bleacher nation. He knows as much as my Mom does, maybe less.

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More rumblings that the Rays are going to shed payroll one way or another: http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/Topkin-As-Rays-start-dealing-how-far-will-they-go-_162778806

 

I wonder if taking on Ramos(1/8.5, 6.25 against LT) might help grease the wheels in a deal for someone like Colome.

 

I'm not following? I'd think they could move Ramos pretty easily, if they want to.

 

I might be understating Ramos's trade value, but if a team is looking to contend, they're probably not too jazzed about Ramos as anything but a backup given his injuries and inconsistency(only 1 year in the last 4 with a 95+ wRC+). As a backup he's pricey for all but a few teams. If a team isn't looking to contend, Ramos's bounce back potential only goes so far since he's over 30 and is only under control for a year(and is never going to get a QO). It's not a difference in trade return like the Jays potentially moving Martin would be, but it could help make things a bit easier. Like Topkin says in his article, if they want to clear salary without touching Archer/Longoria, they can try their best to dump the middling players that have commitments, and packaging Colome/Ramos would be a way to get rid of a sizable bit of payroll(for them) while still getting something worthwhile in return.

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More rumblings that the Rays are going to shed payroll one way or another: http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/Topkin-As-Rays-start-dealing-how-far-will-they-go-_162778806

 

I wonder if taking on Ramos(1/8.5, 6.25 against LT) might help grease the wheels in a deal for someone like Colome.

 

I'm not following? I'd think they could move Ramos pretty easily, if they want to.

 

I might be understating Ramos's trade value, but if a team is looking to contend, they're probably not too jazzed about Ramos as anything but a backup given his injuries and inconsistency(only 1 year in the last 4 with a 95+ wRC+). As a backup he's pricey for all but a few teams. If a team isn't looking to contend, Ramos's bounce back potential only goes so far since he's over 30 and is only under control for a year(and is never going to get a QO). It's not a difference in trade return like the Jays potentially moving Martin would be, but it could help make things a bit easier. Like Topkin says in his article, if they want to clear salary without touching Archer/Longoria, they can try their best to dump the middling players that have commitments, and packaging Colome/Ramos would be a way to get rid of a sizable bit of payroll(for them) while still getting something worthwhile in return.

 

 

I guess its possible. I just doubt they'd give a break on Colome's price though. They supposedly want to drop 15 mill off their payroll. They've got a bunch of ways to get there. In Ramos' case, I'd guess they'd hold him until a contenders C got hurt and suck whatever bit of value he's got, that way.

 

At any rate, this encourages me on Archer's possibility of moving even more.

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I guess its possible. I just doubt they'd give a break on Colome's price though. They supposedly want to drop 15 mill off their payroll. They've got a bunch of ways to get there. In Ramos' case, I'd guess they'd hold him until a contenders C got hurt and suck whatever bit of value he's got, that way.

 

I'm not saying this means you get Colome for a song, but if the Rays know they can make a deal that cuts 14 million(Colome + Ramos), maybe they don't haggle quite so much knowing that the rest of their offseason then has a lot more flexibility, considering there probably isn't a line of suitors for Ramos and the other contracts they could clear are almost all guys who are more crucial to their success(save maybe Odorizzi, who won't clear as much $ as Ramos anyway).

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I guess its possible. I just doubt they'd give a break on Colome's price though. They supposedly want to drop 15 mill off their payroll. They've got a bunch of ways to get there. In Ramos' case, I'd guess they'd hold him until a contenders C got hurt and suck whatever bit of value he's got, that way.

 

I'm not saying this means you get Colome for a song, but if the Rays know they can make a deal that cuts 14 million(Colome + Ramos), maybe they don't haggle quite so much knowing that the rest of their offseason then has a lot more flexibility, considering there probably isn't a line of suitors for Ramos and the other contracts they could clear are almost all guys who are more crucial to their success(save maybe Odorizzi, who won't clear as much $ as Ramos anyway).

 

Ok, yeah, I can see that. Kind of a path of least resistance approach, but it does make sense. I hope they blow it up. Considering we've heard no rumors on other SP's being available thru trade, I really do think Archer is going to be dealt. Too many teams in need.

 

On the other hand though.....With all the pen arms on the market, I think that'll hurt the Colons market quite a bit. I can see them holding off on him until mid season, where reliever prices go up dramatically anyway.

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in hot stove season you can post all the horsefeathers questionably sourced rumors you want imo

 

Well normally the rumors ive seen from him and Sears are rehashed stuff from the beat and national guys. Those are not worth posting other than to make fun of them.

 

Sears is my favorite of the wannabe transaction monkeys. He plays his role as the corner store psychic very seriously, but then just blocks anyone that says he stole his scoop. That's dedication because I imagine that is an exhausting fraud to keep up.

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TBH I’d much rather keep Wilson than sell low on him. I think there’s a pretty good chance he has a bounce back and is actually a pretty valuable part of the pen next year.
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TBH I’d much rather keep Wilson than sell low on him. I think there’s a pretty good chance he has a bounce back and is actually a pretty valuable part of the pen next year.

 

For sure. I don't see him being traded, nor would I like to see that happen.

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Orioles are supposedly after Almora. I put very little stock in this but it's slow. Anyways, outside of Gausman/Bundy there is no one I'd feel good about trading Almora for.

 

http://www.12up.com/posts/5822867-report-orioles-express-interest-in-young-cubs-star?a_aid=40920

 

*looks at source and sees Sean Sears*

 

Yeah, that's what I did too. But hey, he seemingly made this one up on his own. Progress, for him.

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Considering what we gave up for Wilson, I'd much rather keep him and work on mechanics in ST than sell low on him. I think he'll bounce back.

 

He's already got his new entrance music picked out and everything:

 

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Considering what we gave up for Wilson, I'd much rather keep him and work on mechanics in ST than sell low on him. I think he'll bounce back.

 

He's already got his new entrance music picked out and everything:

 

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Not a surprise. No word on Grimm yet.

Yeah not surprising (makes no sense and he hasn’t really shown why $7-8+ mil is smart to give to him ) but sad to see him go, when he was right he was awesome. Hope he finds success elsewhere

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