Cubs cancelled my season tickets - anyone else?

[Derwood]

College towns actually always suck.

 

Sure, but for different reasons. I spent three years at Northwestern and there was literally nothing for the students to do in town. They were so up their own asses with silly laws like "no drive thru windows allowed at restaurants" and "no movie theatres". A few years after I graduated, they finally built a psuedo-mall complex with a cinema and a few restaurants.

 

The lack of stuff to do in Evanston was compounded by the fact that the Purple Line stopped running kind of early, even on weekends, so you couldn't even go into the city without being stranded after like 11pm

[Tracer Bullet]

College towns actually always suck.

 

um, iowa city is pretty awesome

[Ding Dong Johnson]

College towns actually always suck.

 

um, iowa city is pretty awesome

it sure is. there are some really great college towns out there

[Sammy Sofa]

[Banedon]

College towns actually always suck.

 

um, iowa city is pretty awesome

 

It's still in Iowa, right?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

College towns actually always suck.

 

um, iowa city is pretty awesome

 

It's still in Iowa, right?

I've been to your neck of the woods...

[Banedon]

 

um, iowa city is pretty awesome

 

It's still in Iowa, right?

I've been to your neck of the woods...

 

I shan't defend it...lol.

[Sammys Boombox]

Question for the OP:

 

Did you buy special event tickets (like concerts) and sell them too? I would imagine that type of activity would make them more likely to cancel your tickets.

[Zac]

If their true goal is to maintain season tickets holders who they deem to be "loyal" then I don't think they will have a problem finding 1,000 more people who will not sell more than, say 20 games, on Stubhub. Do you?

 

Care to share how much you profited off the sale of your season tickets this year? I would almost bet that the amount you made on your tickets was a much larger factor in you losing your season ticket account over selling all of your tickets.

 

And I ask this because I could totally understand someone losing their season tickets if it gives any appearance that the sole purpose of the use of those season tickets is to make a living/ridiculous profit. I think it's great that sports teams are able to monitor/control that type of behavior, as it wasn't what season tickets was designed for. There are so many people waiting for tickets that would truly use them for what they were designed for, and they are getting hosed by those who only have the tickets because they want to expand their wallet.

 

I would bet quite a few other people did lose their season tickets in this fashion. But I'll also bet that the Chicago Cubs are using due diligence in making sure the people they are taking away season tickets from are deserving so.

 

Aside from the fact the Cubs got caught in allocating a bunch of tickets to the "3rd party" subsidiary a few years ago. I guess it's okay for the Cubs to profit off them while others can't.

 

If you have season tickets you are stupid to sell them on Stubhub. Find some other broker outlet like Vivid or a local broker that you can offload to and potentially still makes some money. I don't think you guys realize how much information Stubhub shares with the MLB. Even if you buy tickets with CASH and sell them on Stubhub they still have the data from the account. I have a broker friend who attempted to buy Royals season ticket last year. They refused him as they said he had "too many sales associated with his name" on Stubhub. He knew he paid with cash so the only way for them to have that data is if Stubhub gave it to them willingly. He was furious at first and thought it had to be in violation of privacy laws, but the practice is in fact 100% legal.

 

The big boon to MLB though is the ability to nail their dynamic pricing for games. They are able to use the sales data to figure out true market value then incorporate that into their pricing models. They've figured out they are leaving money on the table if people are willing to pay more on Stubhub.

 

At it's core I wouldn't have a problem with this if the MLB or the Chicago Cubs really gave 2 shits about scalping. Like I pointed out earlier they've already been caught with their pants down once and we didn't hear ANY rumblings when the team sucked and people were losing money. If he was a FIRST YEAR holder and was doing it? Different story, but he's been a ticket holder for 6 years and has likely lost thousands if went to as many games as he said he did. Either scalping is bad and you are altruistic in both good and poor years, or you are okay with it. Not this it's okay when we suck but not okay when they are good BS.

 

The reality is scalping ensures the highest profits for the MLB and all of it's teams. If a game is in high demand it will sell out regardless, with the difference being the prices will be higher on the secondary market. It's it's low demand there will always be people that speculate and those tickets will fall on the secondary market. It's that latter scenario, and the fact that the secondary market brought about Stubhub which further increases revenues with the data sharing, that guarantees maximum profit for the leagues and it's teams.

 

Regardless the Cubs are talking about of both sides of their mouths on this. And it's total BS that any non-new account would lose their tickets after profiting in one year off of a lowly franchise. At the very least there should have been a warning. If that hadn't been heeded that's one thing, but it's still a hypocritical stance none-the-less.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

Aside from the fact the Cubs got caught in allocating a bunch of tickets to the "3rd party" subsidiary a few years ago. I guess it's okay for the Cubs to profit off them while others can't.

 

strong first post.

 

 

also, yeah, the Cubs are the one with the product to sell so it's totally okay for the them to profit off the product they sell rather than the leaches that leach off the product they sell.

[David]

If their true goal is to maintain season tickets holders who they deem to be "loyal" then I don't think they will have a problem finding 1,000 more people who will not sell more than, say 20 games, on Stubhub. Do you?

 

Care to share how much you profited off the sale of your season tickets this year? I would almost bet that the amount you made on your tickets was a much larger factor in you losing your season ticket account over selling all of your tickets.

 

And I ask this because I could totally understand someone losing their season tickets if it gives any appearance that the sole purpose of the use of those season tickets is to make a living/ridiculous profit. I think it's great that sports teams are able to monitor/control that type of behavior, as it wasn't what season tickets was designed for. There are so many people waiting for tickets that would truly use them for what they were designed for, and they are getting hosed by those who only have the tickets because they want to expand their wallet.

 

I would bet quite a few other people did lose their season tickets in this fashion. But I'll also bet that the Chicago Cubs are using due diligence in making sure the people they are taking away season tickets from are deserving so.

 

Aside from the fact the Cubs got caught in allocating a bunch of tickets to the "3rd party" subsidiary a few years ago. I guess it's okay for the Cubs to profit off them while others can't.

 

If you have season tickets you are stupid to sell them on Stubhub. Find some other broker outlet like Vivid or a local broker that you can offload to and potentially still makes some money. I don't think you guys realize how much information Stubhub shares with the MLB. Even if you buy tickets with CASH and sell them on Stubhub they still have the data from the account. I have a broker friend who attempted to buy Royals season ticket last year. They refused him as they said he had "too many sales associated with his name" on Stubhub. He knew he paid with cash so the only way for them to have that data is if Stubhub gave it to them willingly. He was furious at first and thought it had to be in violation of privacy laws, but the practice is in fact 100% legal.

 

The big boon to MLB though is the ability to nail their dynamic pricing for games. They are able to use the sales data to figure out true market value then incorporate that into their pricing models. They've figured out they are leaving money on the table if people are willing to pay more on Stubhub.

 

At it's core I wouldn't have a problem with this if the MLB or the Chicago Cubs really gave 2 horsefeathers about scalping. Like I pointed out earlier they've already been caught with their pants down once and we didn't hear ANY rumblings when the team sucked and people were losing money. If he was a FIRST YEAR holder and was doing it? Different story, but he's been a ticket holder for 6 years and has likely lost thousands if went to as many games as he said he did. Either scalping is bad and you are altruistic in both good and poor years, or you are okay with it. Not this it's okay when we suck but not okay when they are good BS.

 

The reality is scalping ensures the highest profits for the MLB and all of it's teams. If a game is in high demand it will sell out regardless, with the difference being the prices will be higher on the secondary market. It's it's low demand there will always be people that speculate and those tickets will fall on the secondary market. It's that latter scenario, and the fact that the secondary market brought about Stubhub which further increases revenues with the data sharing, that guarantees maximum profit for the leagues and it's teams.

 

Regardless the Cubs are talking about of both sides of their mouths on this. And it's total BS that any non-new account would lose their tickets after profiting in one year off of a lowly franchise. At the very least there should have been a warning. If that hadn't been heeded that's one thing, but it's still a hypocritical stance none-the-less.

 

Earlier when? This is your first post...

[Derwood]

Ha ha whoopsie

[davell]

Damn, I was debating if it was Rosscup or Efron.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

If their true goal is to maintain season tickets holders who they deem to be "loyal" then I don't think they will have a problem finding 1,000 more people who will not sell more than, say 20 games, on Stubhub. Do you?

 

Care to share how much you profited off the sale of your season tickets this year? I would almost bet that the amount you made on your tickets was a much larger factor in you losing your season ticket account over selling all of your tickets.

 

And I ask this because I could totally understand someone losing their season tickets if it gives any appearance that the sole purpose of the use of those season tickets is to make a living/ridiculous profit. I think it's great that sports teams are able to monitor/control that type of behavior, as it wasn't what season tickets was designed for. There are so many people waiting for tickets that would truly use them for what they were designed for, and they are getting hosed by those who only have the tickets because they want to expand their wallet.

 

I would bet quite a few other people did lose their season tickets in this fashion. But I'll also bet that the Chicago Cubs are using due diligence in making sure the people they are taking away season tickets from are deserving so.

 

I guess it's okay for the Cubs to profit off them while others can't.

 

hahahahahaha

 

well, yes.

[jersey cubs fan]

Aside from the fact the Cubs got caught in allocating a bunch of tickets to the "3rd party" subsidiary a few years ago. I guess it's okay for the Cubs to profit off them while others can't.

 

blahblahblah

Like I pointed out earlier

blahblahblah.

 

Earlier when? This is your first post...

earlier in the rambling ass post

[Sammy Sofa]

Sure, but it's obvious who "Zac" is.

 

I'm just amused how he keeps trying to drop StubHub truth bombs on everyone like he thinks everyone assumed their StubHub transactions were completely invisible from the teams.

[Zac]

 

Care to share how much you profited off the sale of your season tickets this year? I would almost bet that the amount you made on your tickets was a much larger factor in you losing your season ticket account over selling all of your tickets.

 

And I ask this because I could totally understand someone losing their season tickets if it gives any appearance that the sole purpose of the use of those season tickets is to make a living/ridiculous profit. I think it's great that sports teams are able to monitor/control that type of behavior, as it wasn't what season tickets was designed for. There are so many people waiting for tickets that would truly use them for what they were designed for, and they are getting hosed by those who only have the tickets because they want to expand their wallet.

 

I would bet quite a few other people did lose their season tickets in this fashion. But I'll also bet that the Chicago Cubs are using due diligence in making sure the people they are taking away season tickets from are deserving so.

 

Aside from the fact the Cubs got caught in allocating a bunch of tickets to the "3rd party" subsidiary a few years ago. I guess it's okay for the Cubs to profit off them while others can't.

 

If you have season tickets you are stupid to sell them on Stubhub. Find some other broker outlet like Vivid or a local broker that you can offload to and potentially still makes some money. I don't think you guys realize how much information Stubhub shares with the MLB. Even if you buy tickets with CASH and sell them on Stubhub they still have the data from the account. I have a broker friend who attempted to buy Royals season ticket last year. They refused him as they said he had "too many sales associated with his name" on Stubhub. He knew he paid with cash so the only way for them to have that data is if Stubhub gave it to them willingly. He was furious at first and thought it had to be in violation of privacy laws, but the practice is in fact 100% legal.

 

The big boon to MLB though is the ability to nail their dynamic pricing for games. They are able to use the sales data to figure out true market value then incorporate that into their pricing models. They've figured out they are leaving money on the table if people are willing to pay more on Stubhub.

 

At it's core I wouldn't have a problem with this if the MLB or the Chicago Cubs really gave 2 horsefeathers about scalping. Like I pointed out earlier they've already been caught with their pants down once and we didn't hear ANY rumblings when the team sucked and people were losing money. If he was a FIRST YEAR holder and was doing it? Different story, but he's been a ticket holder for 6 years and has likely lost thousands if went to as many games as he said he did. Either scalping is bad and you are altruistic in both good and poor years, or you are okay with it. Not this it's okay when we suck but not okay when they are good BS.

 

The reality is scalping ensures the highest profits for the MLB and all of it's teams. If a game is in high demand it will sell out regardless, with the difference being the prices will be higher on the secondary market. It's it's low demand there will always be people that speculate and those tickets will fall on the secondary market. It's that latter scenario, and the fact that the secondary market brought about Stubhub which further increases revenues with the data sharing, that guarantees maximum profit for the leagues and it's teams.

 

Regardless the Cubs are talking about of both sides of their mouths on this. And it's total BS that any non-new account would lose their tickets after profiting in one year off of a lowly franchise. At the very least there should have been a warning. If that hadn't been heeded that's one thing, but it's still a hypocritical stance none-the-less.

 

Earlier when? This is your first post...

 

Within the post. Not as in an earlier posting.

 

It's not really my first post either as I used to be on here way back when this place started. Mostly lurk now, but since I had information I don't anybody else had I figured I'd share it.

[Zac]

 

Care to share how much you profited off the sale of your season tickets this year? I would almost bet that the amount you made on your tickets was a much larger factor in you losing your season ticket account over selling all of your tickets.

 

And I ask this because I could totally understand someone losing their season tickets if it gives any appearance that the sole purpose of the use of those season tickets is to make a living/ridiculous profit. I think it's great that sports teams are able to monitor/control that type of behavior, as it wasn't what season tickets was designed for. There are so many people waiting for tickets that would truly use them for what they were designed for, and they are getting hosed by those who only have the tickets because they want to expand their wallet.

 

I would bet quite a few other people did lose their season tickets in this fashion. But I'll also bet that the Chicago Cubs are using due diligence in making sure the people they are taking away season tickets from are deserving so.

 

I guess it's okay for the Cubs to profit off them while others can't.

 

hahahahahaha

 

well, yes.

 

 

That's not the point. The point is it's a joke for the Cubs to cry foul on one season's worth of scalping and site that as the main reason when the Cubs have done the same thing themselves. That's exactly the kind of thing the word hypocritical was created for.

[Zac]

Sure, but it's obvious who "Zac" is.

 

I'm just amused how he keeps trying to drop StubHub truth bombs on everyone like he thinks everyone assumed their StubHub transactions were completely invisible from the teams.

 

I posted way back in the day when Ctcubsfan was always in the game chats along with Treebeard and some others. I don't even know if they are still around or if they go by those names. That was way back in the mid-2000s.

 

If the insinuation is I am someone who has posted in this thread then that's way off base, but you can believe what you like. The point wasn't whether their transactions, especially those with credit cards, were hidden. If you paid with a credit card or had season tickets MLB/teams have your information and they would get notified of the sale of those barcodes and could link that to the purchaser. That's not the surprise. The surprise is that even IF you buy tickets with cash, meaning the MLB/team had no idea who actually bought those tickets, Stubhub shares the user data so that MLB has a list of sales affiliated with their database. THAT is what's shocking/alarming.

[evanstonian]

Sure, but it's obvious who "Zac" is.

 

I'm just amused how he keeps trying to drop StubHub truth bombs on everyone like he thinks everyone assumed their StubHub transactions were completely invisible from the teams.

 

I posted way back in the day when Ctcubsfan was always in the game chats along with Treebeard and some others. I don't even know if they are still around or if they go by those names. That was way back in the mid-2000s.

 

If the insinuation is I am someone who has posted in this thread then that's way off base, but you can believe what you like. The point wasn't whether their transactions, especially those with credit cards, were hidden. If you paid with a credit card or had season tickets MLB/teams have your information and they would get notified of the sale of those barcodes and could link that to the purchaser. That's not the surprise. The surprise is that even IF you buy tickets with cash, meaning the MLB/team had no idea who actually bought those tickets, Stubhub shares the user data so that MLB has a list of sales affiliated with their database. THAT is what's shocking/alarming.

 

Dude, we both know that you're really me. Stop it. Note to self: Learn how to spell "cite" correctly and also don't use "it's" when "its" is proper.

[Sammy Sofa]

Actually not shocking, nor alarming.

[wvcbxl]

The surprise is that even IF you buy tickets with cash, meaning the MLB/team had no idea who actually bought those tickets, Stubhub shares the user data so that MLB has a list of sales affiliated with their database. THAT is what's shocking/alarming.

 

Actually, it's neither shocking nor alarming, and even to be expected.

This is written (deep down) in StubHub's terms of use (which nobody reads, I know):

 

 

We may share your personal information with:

...

Third party service providers, payment processors and financial institutions under contract who help with our business operations (such as, but not limited to, fraud detection and investigations, identity verification services, payment processing, bill collection, affiliate and rewards programs, website operations, fulfilment and delivery services or ticket cancellation and reissue services).

 

It's very much a situation where MLB and StubHub have a mutual interest in cooperating - there's a reason StubHub has a seperate section devoted to it on the Cubs.com ticket page.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, it seems kind of adorably naive that they're trying to act like something like MLB having an agreement to effectively track the sales of tickets to their games is this shocking revelation.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, it seems kind of adorably naive that they're trying to act like something like MLB having an agreement to effectively track the sales of tickets to their games is this shocking revelation.

WHAT ABOUT HER EMAILS?????!!!!!!!??????

[BigbadB]

I have a broker friend who attempted to buy Royals season ticket last year. They refused him as they said he had "too many sales associated with his name" on Stubhub. He knew he paid with cash so the only way for them to have that data is if Stubhub gave it to them willingly. He was furious at first and thought it had to be in violation of privacy laws, but the practice is in fact 100% legal.

 

This is a good thing. This is not a bad thing! Say it again with me, a little louder this time. THIS IS A GOOD THING! THIS IS NOT A BAD THING!