Cubs trading Soler to KC for Wade Davis

[Sammy Sofa]

I was correctly declaring Soler to be handsome garbage a while ago. You may all praise me now.

 

i seem to remember you sticking on the bandwagon a little longer than most, but when you turned, you turned hard

 

Someone so beautiful shouldn't be so disappointing. But yeah, I am a savage betrayer.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I was correctly declaring Soler to be handsome garbage a while ago. You may all praise me now.

 

i seem to remember you sticking on the bandwagon a little longer than most, but when you turned, you turned hard

 

That he did.

[Cubswin11]

Just looked at Soler's stats. The dude has doubled-down on a patient approach (40% swing) and is showing a strong discernment on pitches to swing at... and he's been rewarded with a 250 wOBA. Of course he still pours on the negative defensive value. He horsefeathering sucks.

 

Wonderful trade by Theoyer. Really hope this gives us a slight inside edge to bringing Davis back after the season. Doubtful but who knows.

 

What I will say is that I proposed Soler + Grimm for Justin Wilson before the season and let's just say, the idea was not met with positive responses. Who cares. No big deal.

 

But JFC that would have been a coup. Wilson has been ridiculous. Now he's gonna get a massive haul if they move him at the deadline.

Your Justin Wilson hard on amuses me.

[UMFan83]

Normally I'd like to take joy in the early returns suggesting that we "won" a deal, but I really want to see Soler succeed. Just really like that dude and had high hopes for him.

[biittner77]

Normally I'd like to take joy in the early returns suggesting that we "won" a deal, but I really want to see Soler succeed. Just really like that dude and had high hopes for him.

 

Soler is a guy that I'll always associate with the beginning of the Theo era. I can see where people have a soft spot for him. Even if he panned out he was likely going to be a guy that couldn't stay healthy and therefore caused lots of frustration.

[Little Slide Rooter]

http://mlb.com/r/article?ymd=20170604&content_id=234334366&vkey=news_kc&c_id=kc

[UMFan83]

Wade Davis has been everything we asked for, although it does concern me slightly that he couldn't go for a 3rd straight day after pitching only 1 time in a 15 day span from May 17 - June 1st. He did go 3 straight days earlier this year, although that time he only threw 23 combined pitches the first 2 days. This time around he threw 34 pitches.

[jersey cubs fan]

Wade Davis has been everything we asked for, although it does concern me slightly that he couldn't go for a 3rd straight day after pitching only 1 time in a 15 day span from May 17 - June 1st. He did go 3 straight days earlier this year, although that time he only threw 23 combined pitches the first 2 days. This time around he threw 34 pitches.

 

It doesn't concern me that he "couldn't", but I am glad they didn't try and make him to it.

[biittner77]

Wade Davis has been everything we asked for, although it does concern me slightly that he couldn't go for a 3rd straight day after pitching only 1 time in a 15 day span from May 17 - June 1st. He did go 3 straight days earlier this year, although that time he only threw 23 combined pitches the first 2 days. This time around he threw 34 pitches.

 

I saw where Soler had been sent down yesterday.

 

http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2017/6/3/15735248/royals-option-jorge-soler

[Sammy Sofa]

Wade Davis has been everything we asked for, although it does concern me slightly that he couldn't go for a 3rd straight day after pitching only 1 time in a 15 day span from May 17 - June 1st.

 

Call me crazy, but would a lot of time off necessarily have a cumulative on the numbers of days a closer can pitch in a row? Plus it's not like he wasn't doing anything as a pitcher during that time. If he starts getting into a series where he's going out there each day, I don't think on the third day his body is going to react, like, "well, usually I can't do this very well (or at all), but since I only pitched once in two weeks prior to the last two days of pitching, I can!"

[treebird]

i am totally fine with davis never pitching three days in a row barring extreme circumstances. and early june against the shitty cardinals does not qualify as extreme circumstances.

[UMFan83]

Fine you all made smart points. I guess I just get concerned that he's having more elbow issues when he does not pitch a 3rd day in a row after such a light recent workload when he's done it before this year.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Also, the other time Davis threw 3 days in a row he threw 10 and 13 pitches the first 2 days, compared to 11 and 23 Friday and Saturday.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

yeah, especially in the middle of a 13 day stretch without an off day, i'm more than fine with them not pushing him, especially since there's at least some depth in the pen.

[David]

This is one of um's weirder posts. I had less than zero expectation that he'd pitch last night and I wouldn't have been happy if he had

[UMFan83]

This is one of um's weirder posts. I had less than zero expectation that he'd pitch last night and I wouldn't have been happy if he had

 

there is no way that's true

[Donzo]

Wade Davis has been everything we asked for, although it does concern me slightly that he couldn't go for a 3rd straight day after pitching only 1 time in a 15 day span from May 17 - June 1st. He did go 3 straight days earlier this year, although that time he only threw 23 combined pitches the first 2 days. This time around he threw 34 pitches.

 

It doesn't concern me that he "couldn't", but I am glad they didn't try and make him to it.

 

Yeah, that's where I'm at... Huge difference between "couldn't" and "didn't".

 

For all the reasons the other posters already stated, it was a smart move not to pitch him... Of course that's easy to say because it worked. With 2 outs in the top of the 9th against the Yankees, I was feeling really good about Strop going two innings for the save when Davis wasn't available to pitch- yeah...

[jersey cubs fan]

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[KrisBryantisaBeast]

 

Was he even at the park during the 9th inning. This might explain why Koji closed out the game instead.

[Tryptamine]

So is it even a question that Wade is getting a QO anymore? At this point I see it as a no lose. We either get a pick or we get a lights out closer on a 1/18ish type deal.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Soler has 10 HR in 95 AAA PA but was abysmal in his MLB stint this year. Looking like a 4A player but may be turning the corner.