The Bryce is Right, Bitch

[Sammy Sofa]

They kinda should just mercy kill UKS and spin him off.

[Liam Neeson]

To echo that "Watch out for the Braves" tweet earlier

 

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They kinda should just mercy kill UKS and spin him off.

 

UKS is still great though

[Brian]

it's been ended already, there's half a season still to be released though.

[Banedon]

it's been ended already, there's half a season still to be released though.

 

Yep.

 

https://deadline.com/2018/05/unbreakable-kimmy-schmidt-end-after-4-seasons-movie-series-finale-netflix-1202380935/

[Brian]

and back on the Bryce topic I refuse to believe that there is any realistic scenario where he signs with Atlanta.

[CubinNY]

I'm hoping for a sweep in the WS and I don't care who wins. I need some Bryce rumors. Let's get this show on the road.

[Cubswin11]

 

12/~400 It is then

[Bertz]

I don't know about the bidding starting there, but I do think the over/under for both Harper and Machado is 10/350. Right now the top AAV in MLB is Greinke's $34.4 and the top deal in raw dollars is Stanton's $325. The MLBPA really needs these two guys to stretch the limits. Something like 12/400 or 6/250 might work, but any deal likely has to break records in at least one direction.

 

I do sort of wonder about something more creative, like only 10/250 but with horsefeathering 7 opt outs, but that probably would have been more likely before last year's frozen winter.

[davell]

These guys are 26 and in FA. Stanton was still in arb. Greinke was older. 10/350 is literally what's going to get you a face to face. They're both getting 400+ and 12-14 years, AND a couple of opt outs too.

[Brian]

I'm guessing this is not possible, but is this a realistic/legal luxury tax workaround?

 

 

15 year 425 million (Luxury tax hit of 28.33)

 

years 1-10 40 mill, 11-15 5 million. Opt outs obviously in a couple of places but definitely after year 10. If he is still producing and can get more money he can opt out of the last 5/25 and make a last payday.

[davell]

I'm guessing this is not possible, but is this a realistic/legal luxury tax workaround?

 

 

15 year 425 million (Luxury tax hit of 28.33)

 

years 1-10 40 mill, 11-15 5 million. Opt outs obviously in a couple of places but definitely after year 10. If he is still producing and can get more money he can opt out of the last 5/25 and make a last payday.

 

I don't know for sure, but I think a structure like that, actually is possible. At any rate, the general structure is exactly what we need to be going for......

[Andy]

I'm guessing this is not possible, but is this a realistic/legal luxury tax workaround?

 

 

15 year 425 million (Luxury tax hit of 28.33)

 

years 1-10 40 mill, 11-15 5 million. Opt outs obviously in a couple of places but definitely after year 10. If he is still producing and can get more money he can opt out of the last 5/25 and make a last payday.

 

I don't know for sure, but I think a structure like that, actually is possible. At any rate, the general structure is exactly what we need to be going for......

Wasn't it just reported that Wainwright's STL contract is a no-go because a guy can't make less than 75 percent of what he made the prior year if he stays on the same team without going to free agency or something like that?

[Brian]

I think, maybe, that's because it's a new contract

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I think, maybe, that's because it's a new contract

 

 

Correct, the same idea applies to someone who is Arb 2 or 3 coming off a terrible season.

 

That proposed contract structure seems pretty sure to be vetoed, or the odds of Harper being able to leverage it into some team(Cubs or otherwise) just giving him 10/400 or 10/425 without the shenanigans are pretty high. Not that you can't get creative, but there needs to be something in it for the player and there isn't really in that case.

[imb]

give bryce whatever opt out he wants.

 

oh no he was so good that he outperformed his $40 million a year and now can get more, thanks for the excess value bryce

[Transmogrified Tiger]

give bryce whatever opt out he wants.

 

oh no he was so good that he outperformed his $40 million a year and now can get more, thanks for the excess value bryce

 

I'm really glad that Dave Cameron works for the Padres now so I don't have to roll my eyes at every 'opt-outs only have downside for a team' mention that ignores that's how you get the player on your team in the first place.

[jersey cubs fan]

hell I'd let him opt-out after spring training if he doesn't approve of Tim Buss's goofy wardrobe

[CubinNY]

The majority of the Bleacher Nation twitter feed is people saying they'd pass on Harper. It drives me up the every loving wall. The Ricketts family are billionaires making 10s of millions of dollars quarterly. They own an entire block of buildings in the third largest city and are launching their own TV network. They can afford to Harper and pay the luxury tax for a few years.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

give bryce whatever opt out he wants.

 

oh no he was so good that he outperformed his $40 million a year and now can get more, thanks for the excess value bryce

 

Plus, the Cubs have been really good at giving opt outs and somehow convincing players not to use them.

[Cubswin11]

The only thing I remotely care about with a Bryce opt out(s) is that it's staggered around the offseason we could lose multiple of KB, Javy and Rizzo (I think 2, if not all 3 can be the FA the same year) and I wouldn't want an offseason where we lost and had to make up that much talent. I think this is the 2022 offseason, iirc.

[Sammy Sofa]

The Cubs should let Rizzo walk and not even think twice about it.

[Brian]

Yeah after 2021 is KB & Javy, Rizzo is on 14.5 mill. team options for 2020 and 2021

 

Schwarber and Monty too

[Cubswin11]

The Cubs should let Rizzo walk and not even think twice about it.

Mostly ageee. If he’d do an extension now adding 2-3 years after his option years I’d like that and I’d guess he’d be open to that to get a slight pay bump now and those option+ years guaranteed. But a new 4-5+ year deal after the options isn’t that appealing.

 

I also view Bryce as a potential long term Rizzo replacement at 1B once Rizzo would be gone.

 

Edit: Rizzo has 3/40 left with options. Something like a 5/90, 6/110 type extension starting this year in 2019 I could live with and think is a fair deal all around. Throw 1 to 3 team or vesting options on there too as a sweetner where if he’s still playing great he can make another $20-80 million depending on how many are exercised.

Edited October 24, 2018 by Cubswin11

[Cubswin11]

Out of all 5 of those players the only real priority to extend is Bryant. Maybe Baez gets there with another badass season

I think you let Javy ride it out since he’s such a weird player unless he’d do like a Suarez extension. KB likely is never doing an extension but I’d love to do one and same with Rizzo under the scenario I laid out above.