General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

[Clem Fandango]

Pablo Sandoval is getting svelte

 

[Banedon]

There was some noise made about this...especially when the Mets did it this year with a League Of Their Own....no more.

 

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[Liam Neeson]

We will always have this

 

[biittner77]

There was some noise made about this...especially when the Mets did it this year with a League Of Their Own....no more.

 

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Can they still make Vogelbig dress as a Chippendale?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

There was some noise made about this...especially when the Mets did it this year with a League Of Their Own....no more.

 

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Can they still make Vogelbig dress as a Chippendale?

nobody made him do that. he just shows up like that

[Tracer Bullet]

There was some noise made about this...especially when the Mets did it this year with a League Of Their Own....no more.

 

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good.

[David]

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[Sammy Sofa]

Eat a diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick, you greedy, stadium-scamming mother [expletive]:

 

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[Cubswin11]

"Assume nothing, don't worry about money" should be the Braves new motto after they stole all that taxpayer money

[CyHawk_Cub]

They're just part of #MAGA

[Banedon]

Eat a diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick, you greedy, stadium-scamming mother [expletive]:

 

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[weis21]

I thought this was a very interesting article about the value of pitch framing. It's succinct, and ends with the notion that if peak offensive Barry Bonds were the worst possible pitch framer, he would by far be the least valuable player in the league.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/how-bad-could-a-pitch-framer-possibly-be/

[David]

I thought this was a very interesting article about the value of pitch framing. It's succinct, and ends with the notion that if peak offensive Barry Bonds were the worst possible pitch framer, he would by far be the least valuable player in the league.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/how-bad-could-a-pitch-framer-possibly-be/

 

i haven't read it, but if this means how bad they can be in a practical sense (like how bad the worst guys actually are) rather than some extreme where they literally have every borderline pitch called a ball, this pitch framing thing has completely jumped the shark

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I thought this was a very interesting article about the value of pitch framing. It's succinct, and ends with the notion that if peak offensive Barry Bonds were the worst possible pitch framer, he would by far be the least valuable player in the league.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/how-bad-could-a-pitch-framer-possibly-be/

 

i haven't read it, but if this means how bad they can be in a practical sense (like how bad the worst guys actually are) rather than some extreme where they literally have every borderline pitch called a ball, this pitch framing thing has completely jumped the shark

 

It appears to be the latter.

 

Our framer gets credit for average performance on all pitches thrown within zones with a called-strike rate of at least 90%. Those are mostly gimme pitches. Once again, no strikes elsewhere. Now our calculated value settles around -200 runs. That’s 200 runs worse than the average receiver, over the equivalent of regular playing time.

 

That’s like -20 wins. Now, if you wanted to calculate WAR, you’d have to fold in runs for the replacement-level adjustment. And our framer would get credit for a positive positional adjustment, since catchers get a big boost there. Because this guy is a catcher, he’s probably not much of a baserunner. Nothing to be done there. And just as a hitter, Barry Bonds topped out at +117 runs, compared to average, in 2001. If our guy hit like the best version of Barry Bonds, he’d still be by far the worst player around.

[weis21]

yeah, i didn't say that i necessarily agreed with what the article was suggesting (or throwing out as a possibility) - just that it was interesting. the idea that peak offensive barry bonds - on poor pitch framing alone (not taking into account throwing ability/blocking ability/game calling) - would somehow go from best to worst player in the league is crazy and i don't buy it, obviously. i just thought it interesting and puts into context some of the limitations of the pitch framing data.

[davell]

 

Excessive use of an exclamation point, if I've ever seen one. But imagining that somewhere, there's a dude that just fist pumped in seeing that tweet, is kind of funny.

[Banedon]

The Normal CornBelters announced Wednesday that former Chicago Cubs' pitcher Carlos Zambrano will take part in the McLean County Orthopedics Legends Game on July 29 at the Corn Crib.

 

He joins previously announced Rick Ankiel, Bob Dernier, Isaac Byrd, Brian Jordan, Ron “R-Truth” Killings, Mike Fontenot, Mitch “Wild Thing” Williams and Jose Canseco as those participating in the event.

 

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/professional/baseball/minor/cornbelters/zambrano-joins-lineup-for-legends-game/article_2f5faaf3-f29c-54e7-8a51-5628c2c5fd3f.html

[Liam Neeson]

Marty Brennaman doesn't like Joey Votto's contract and statistics.

 

http://redsminorleagues.com/2017/01/03/marty-brennaman-joey-votto/

 

The call that gets it going starts at the 28 minutes mark. The best part is the caller after him.

[Cubswin11]

Marty Brennaman doesn't like Joey Votto's contract and statistics.

 

http://redsminorleagues.com/2017/01/03/marty-brennaman-joey-votto/

 

The call that gets it going starts at the 28 minutes mark. The best part is the caller after him.

Good god, what a buffoon. I hope there's still guys in MLB FO with some decision making power with his mindset for our sake. He seems like a guy that thinks Trumbo is as good or better hitter than Votto, because RBIs.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm convinced that Marty Brennanman simply flat out hates baseball.

[Sammy Sofa]

Holy horsefeathers; I had no idea that his Votto vendetta was an ongoing thing and not just something recent. That's like the stupidity of Rozner's anti-Aramis crusade times a trillion.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

Holy horsefeathers; I had no idea that his Votto vendetta was an ongoing thing and not just something recent. That's like the stupidity of Rozner's anti-Aramis crusade times a trillion.

Maybe he just hates wops?

[jersey cubs fan]

Holy horsefeathers; I had no idea that his Votto vendetta was an ongoing thing and not just something recent. That's like the stupidity of Rozner's anti-Aramis crusade times a trillion.

Maybe he just hates wops?

Wins over positional statistics

[soccer10k]

Over the last 5 years, the AL team with the most wins is the Orioles. Was a little surprised when I heard it on the Effectively Wild podcast but it made sense when I thought about it for a bit. They've been somewhere between decent and good each of the five years. None of the other AL teams can say that. The Yankees (#2) have only had one good year while the Rangers (#3) and Tigers (#4) have each had a bad season in there.

 

The other interesting thing was the difference between the NL and AL in that span. The NL had the top-3 teams (Cards, Nats, Dodgers) as well as No. 5 (Pittsburgh). While the AL had the worst two teams (Houston, Minnesota), the NL had the next 5 worst, 7 of the bottom 10 and 10 of the bottom 14.

[imb]

Albert Pujols, he of the .786 ops the last three years, just turned 37 years old today. The Angels still owe him $150 mil. Thank god we traded for Rizzo