General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

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That's pretty good lol.

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that picture doesn't really go with the joke

[jersey cubs fan]

[Cubswin11]

I’m just going to assume this is the Astros secret potion and every one of their pitchers is taking it.

 

[Regular Show]

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This makes me sad. At his peak he was a legit contender for best pitcher in MLB.

[Cubswin11]

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This makes me sad. At his peak he was a legit contender for best pitcher in MLB.

I mean, unless he’s not making the OD roster why not give him the token star? They’re in an admitted rebuild.

[Sammy Sofa]

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[NonProfitCow]

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Apparently that's the guy who broke the Cano and Castillo PED suspension news.

[Cubswin11]

 

 

Apparently that's the guy who broke the Cano and Castillo PED suspension news.

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[Bertz]

I cant imagine that's true. Mookie Betts is at the tippy top of the pre-FA salary scale and he's going to end up with ~90 million during his first 7 years (assuming he stays awesome). No team is dumb enough to guarantee all that money for a ~10% savings in the incredibly unlikely event he becomes one of the 3-5 best players in the league.

 

I'd love to be wrong though...Arenado's probably the only obviously player friendly 9-figure contract signed the past two years. We could use another couple per offseason.

[Brian]

Seems weird to send him to minor league camp if this was close.

 

If that 8th year is like a 20 or 25 million dollar option i don't think it's that crazy

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I cant imagine that's true. Mookie Betts is at the tippy top of the pre-FA salary scale and he's going to end up with ~90 million during his first 7 years (assuming he stays awesome). No team is dumb enough to guarantee all that money for a ~10% savings in the incredibly unlikely event he becomes one of the 3-5 best players in the league.

 

I'd love to be wrong though...Arenado's probably the only obviously player friendly 9-figure contract signed the past two years. We could use another couple per offseason.

 

If he becomes that good then an 8 year deal saves them a fair bit more than 10%, right? I don't have a good sense for what's 'right' in these cases since this type of deal is so rare, but if you think of it as 60 million for his team control years and 40 million for 2 FA years(which would be age 28-29 if it starts this year), that *feels* reasonable to me on both ends.

[Bertz]

I cant imagine that's true. Mookie Betts is at the tippy top of the pre-FA salary scale and he's going to end up with ~90 million during his first 7 years (assuming he stays awesome). No team is dumb enough to guarantee all that money for a ~10% savings in the incredibly unlikely event he becomes one of the 3-5 best players in the league.

 

I'd love to be wrong though...Arenado's probably the only obviously player friendly 9-figure contract signed the past two years. We could use another couple per offseason.

 

If he becomes that good then an 8 year deal saves them a fair bit more than 10%, right? I don't have a good sense for what's 'right' in these cases since this type of deal is so rare, but if you think of it as 60 million for his team control years and 40 million for 2 FA years(which would be age 28-29 if it starts this year), that *feels* reasonable to me on both ends.

 

Looking at the Betts trajectory, or where KB was on his way to before 2018, I think the realistic current ceiling on pre FA is something like 7/90. Those two obviously came into the league several years ago, so let's say with inflation more like 7/100 for a guy like Eloy coming in now? If he's a star this deal essentially gives you that first FA year free, which is great, but if he's anything less than that you're likely overpaying by a fair amount. It just seems like pretty high risk for one extra year at a modestly below market rate in 2026.

 

Although if it's a real offer there's surely a few additional details that completely change the calculus. Most likely a club option or two. I'd guess that would bridge the gap.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I cant imagine that's true. Mookie Betts is at the tippy top of the pre-FA salary scale and he's going to end up with ~90 million during his first 7 years (assuming he stays awesome). No team is dumb enough to guarantee all that money for a ~10% savings in the incredibly unlikely event he becomes one of the 3-5 best players in the league.

 

I'd love to be wrong though...Arenado's probably the only obviously player friendly 9-figure contract signed the past two years. We could use another couple per offseason.

 

If he becomes that good then an 8 year deal saves them a fair bit more than 10%, right? I don't have a good sense for what's 'right' in these cases since this type of deal is so rare, but if you think of it as 60 million for his team control years and 40 million for 2 FA years(which would be age 28-29 if it starts this year), that *feels* reasonable to me on both ends.

 

Looking at the Betts trajectory, or where KB was on his way to before 2018, I think the realistic current ceiling on pre FA is something like 7/90. Those two obviously came into the league several years ago, so let's say with inflation more like 7/100 for a guy like Eloy coming in now? If he's a star this deal essentially gives you that first FA year free, which is great, but if he's anything less than that you're likely overpaying by a fair amount. It just seems like pretty high risk for one extra year at a modestly below market rate in 2026.

 

Although if it's a real offer there's surely a few additional details that completely change the calculus. Most likely a club option or two. I'd guess that would bridge the gap.

 

I think arbitration inflation has a chance to exceed that 10 million 4-7 years from now, but that's fair. Also worth noting that Eloy would be hitting arbitration on the other side of the new CBA, so there's a bit of risk minimization baked in too depending on what exactly pre-FA looks like then.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I will be forever bitter about Eloy, even if he turns into a dud, which he won't because he is the hero we always needed.

[imb]

white sox probably heard from FAs this offseason that the organization wasnt player friendly enough

[Hairyducked Idiot]

$100m for a player with zero mlb PA is stupid. Giving guaranteed money when you had total control and a repeating team option for six+ years is also stupid.

[David]

so i ended up at a plain white t's show in rosemont last night out of nowhere and then i saw the band that did this song from mvp baseball

 

[Sammy Sofa]

so i ended up at a plain white t's show in rosemont last night out of nowhere

 

I have...SO many questions.

[David]

so i ended up at a plain white t's show in rosemont last night out of nowhere

 

I have...SO many questions.

 

it's not that great of a story. i was at a bar next door with my gf and we saw they were there and she wanted to go so we went. they were playing a small venue (no surprise there)...joe's

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you absolutely started that story so you could eventually say you had a girlfriend

[David]

you absolutely started that story so you could eventually say you had a girlfriend

 

was it that transparent?

[David]

in reality, tho, i've been dying to share that story with someone who would appreciate it since last night

 

when they started playing that song i got way too excited and was like "ITS THE DUDES FROM MVP BASEBALL!!!" and i got looked at like a moron

[imb]

"does she have boobs? heh, you could say that :twisted: "

[Bertz]

https://twitter.com/GregJohnsMLB/status/1107111095154573312?s=19

 

The fact that an entire stadium of Japanese people still lose their horsefeathering minds over Ichiro is why baseball is the best. The fact that MLB Network is showing a replay of today's Astros-Phillies game instead of this right now is why MLB is kind of the worst.