General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

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a woman died after being hit by a foul line drive at a dodgers game last year. i haven't seen the replay or where she was, but that shouldn't happen.

The article I read said the ball was a line drive that went just above the protective netting.

 

then raise that ish

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

Plus it's a lock this will inevitably help the Brewers and the Cardinals more than the Cubs.

Last year, Cards were #1 in Pitcher wOBA and the Brewers were #3.

[ConstableRabbit]

I wish they'd tie the DH to the starting pitcher. Would be so much more fun.

[Backtobanks]

Theo must have had inside information which is why he said early in the offseason that Schwarber wasn't available.

Theo's insider information:

 

Schwarber is a good baseball player (and passable LF)

 

And would be a great DH.

[Sammy Sofa]

Plus it's a lock this will inevitably help the Brewers and the Cardinals more than the Cubs.

Last year, Cards were #1 in Pitcher wOBA and the Brewers were #3.

 

This is an insane attempt at refuting my epic doom boner, and you know it.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

Plus it's a lock this will inevitably help the Brewers and the Cardinals more than the Cubs.

Last year, Cards were #1 in Pitcher wOBA and the Brewers were #3.

 

This is an insane attempt at refuting my epic doom boner, and you know it.

Insane? Its approximately half the story of switching to the DH.

[Sammy Sofa]

"Ah-HAH; they're going to actually miss out on that sweet, sweet pitcher offense" is not a thing that should be said in polite company.

[Cubswin11]

Us the Brewers and Cardinals all seem to benefit just fine from a DH. We have old man Zobrist to preserve, Schwarber, gets Willy off catching a billion games but keeping his bat in the lineup, gets KB/Rizzo extra rest, allows a super defense lineup too. Brewers have Thames/Braun/Aguilar to rotate and old man cain and Hiura is their best prospect and bat only. Cardinals have Jose Martinez who’s maybe the worst defender in MLB, Ozuna and his bad arm, and Carpenter and his bad arm. Think we all benefit plenty in different ways.

[imb]

from a fan perspective i dont think anyone is too concerned with who benefits from the DH the most on a team-level as there are very few truly impactful DHs like, ever. It just makes the games more watchable because i hate watching pitchers horsefeathering hit

[Banedon]

from a fan perspective i dont think anyone is too concerned with who benefits from the DH the most on a team-level as there are very few truly impactful DHs like, ever. It just makes the games more watchable because i hate watching pitchers horsefeathering hit

 

Also hateable...double switches with every pitching change so somehow you end up giving a crucial at bat to your last bench guy in late/extra innings.

[Regular Show]

from a fan perspective i dont think anyone is too concerned with who benefits from the DH the most on a team-level as there are very few truly impactful DHs like, ever. It just makes the games more watchable because i hate watching pitchers horsefeathering hit

 

I agree, but it was awesome watching Zambrano hit some dongs back in the day. When you have a good hitting SP it's fun (for a short while).

 

http://www.mlb.com/images/0/0/6/263770006/121917_zambrano_hrs.gif

[bcl412]

from a fan perspective i dont think anyone is too concerned with who benefits from the DH the most on a team-level as there are very few truly impactful DHs like, ever. It just makes the games more watchable because i hate watching pitchers horsefeathering hit

 

I’m always mixed on the nl dh because pitcher PAs are generally awful they make successful pitcher PAs fun as hell. One of my favorite things in sports is pitcher dongs

[Transmogrified Tiger]

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[Transmogrified Tiger]

More to the actual topic, tying the DH to the starting pitcher takes care of everyone's concerns except the most ardent 'why don't we just have 9 designated fielders' weirdos. No pitchers hitting and you still get the late innings strategy. That also has the side effect of dis-incentivizing the opener that most people seem to hate.

[ConstableRabbit]

More to the actual topic, tying the DH to the starting pitcher takes care of everyone's concerns except the most ardent 'why don't we just have 9 designated fielders' weirdos. No pitchers hitting and you still get the late innings strategy. That also has the side effect of dis-incentivizing the opener that most people seem to hate.

To reiterate, this is where I am. It's the perfect compromise.

[Cubswin11]

More to the actual topic, tying the DH to the starting pitcher takes care of everyone's concerns except the most ardent 'why don't we just have 9 designated fielders' weirdos. No pitchers hitting and you still get the late innings strategy. That also has the side effect of dis-incentivizing the opener that most people seem to hate.

What’s the late inning strategy after the SP is out that having the DH prevents from happening? The AL still pinch hits guys in matchup spots, managers still use multiple RPs there. It’s pretty much just the stupid double switch and that’s it? Or am I missing something?

[Sammy Sofa]

More to the actual topic, tying the DH to the starting pitcher takes care of everyone's concerns except the most ardent 'why don't we just have 9 designated fielders' weirdos. No pitchers hitting and you still get the late innings strategy. That also has the side effect of dis-incentivizing the opener that most people seem to hate.

What’s the late inning strategy after the SP is out that having the DH prevents from happening? The AL still pinch hits guys in matchup spots, managers still use multiple RPs there. It’s pretty much just the stupid double switch and that’s it? Or am I missing something?

 

The inflated sense of self-importance that can only be matched by submitting a blank HoF ballot.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

More to the actual topic, tying the DH to the starting pitcher takes care of everyone's concerns except the most ardent 'why don't we just have 9 designated fielders' weirdos. No pitchers hitting and you still get the late innings strategy. That also has the side effect of dis-incentivizing the opener that most people seem to hate.

What’s the late inning strategy after the SP is out that having the DH prevents from happening? The AL still pinch hits guys in matchup spots, managers still use multiple RPs there. It’s pretty much just the stupid double switch and that’s it? Or am I missing something?

 

timing of relief pitchers w/r/t the pitcher's spot, whether or not to double switch, forced scarcity with pinch hitters, etc

 

It's not some huge thing that makes up 50% of the game, but the other side of the aisle is getting worked up about pitchers getting less than 5% of plate appearances when the regular players make unproductive outs 60+% of the time too.

[David]

More to the actual topic, tying the DH to the starting pitcher takes care of everyone's concerns except the most ardent 'why don't we just have 9 designated fielders' weirdos. No pitchers hitting and you still get the late innings strategy. That also has the side effect of dis-incentivizing the opener that most people seem to hate.

To reiterate, this is where I am. It's the perfect compromise.

It's a compromise that isn't needed. Full DH forever.

[Banedon]

from a fan perspective i dont think anyone is too concerned with who benefits from the DH the most on a team-level as there are very few truly impactful DHs like, ever. It just makes the games more watchable because i hate watching pitchers horsefeathering hit

 

I agree, but it was awesome watching Zambrano hit some dongs back in the day. When you have a good hitting SP it's fun (for a short while).

 

It was fun to watch Rizzo pitch but I don't want him doing it on a regular basis.

[Cubswin11]

More to the actual topic, tying the DH to the starting pitcher takes care of everyone's concerns except the most ardent 'why don't we just have 9 designated fielders' weirdos. No pitchers hitting and you still get the late innings strategy. That also has the side effect of dis-incentivizing the opener that most people seem to hate.

To reiterate, this is where I am. It's the perfect compromise.

It's a compromise that isn't needed. Full DH forever.

Right. The horsefeathering players are in favor of a DH. That should be the end of it. There’s no compromise or making it more complicated than necessary. The idiot fans who are vocal about this don’t matter because they’re such a small percentage of fans and nobody is not watching or going away because of this rule.

[Brian]

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[The SABR Gamer]

Wow, Sabathia's almost at 3000 Ks as well as being a handful wins off of 250. I'm a big fan of his career and believe he's a HOFer, but do not expect he will get the support for reasons. For me he's among the most interesting players of his era and one of the last of a dying breed, the 200+ inning ace (as noted by Passan in The Arm, probably not because guys can't but because teams won't). In his prime especially he was just an amazing watch as a total package power LHSP capable of carrying usually very competitive teams on his back.

 

https://amp.mlb.com/303599464-3000-strikeouts-is-one-of-mlbs-rarest-feats.amp.html

 

I was always a little more interested in him for two other reasons: 1) CC's probably the most successful athlete out of MLB's RBI program ever and 2) there was such a separation between fan perception of his body type (big fat guy) and the reality (one of the handful best athletes in the game at his peak). Guy was a 3 sport athlete in HS and considered one of the loudest talents of his draft year before being taken 20th overall with a big bonus. He was up for good at 20 where he quickly became an rotation anchor and was an established workhorse before taking it to another level at 25. He is going to have a very meaty and interesting baseball bio when it's all said and done. He and Zack Greinke are two guys I would vote into the HOF today if that were a thing, both seem lined up to be pretty controversial candidates.

 

 

32nd all time in pitcher fWAR, nearly 70 fWAR for his career. More career WAR than: Tom Glavine, Roy Halladay, Bob Feller, Juan Marichal, etc... If he's a controversial hall of famer then lol.

[Bull]

So you do think the players should limit certain demands?

 

No, I'm saying its' a stupid ask.

And therefore easy to concede.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

ZiPS hates the Brewers again: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-zips-projections-milwaukee-brewers/

 

Really illustrates how much Cain and Yelich carried them last year, since those are pretty healthy projections for both and that's still more than 4 wins worse than what they did last year.

 

That depth chart is 2 wins worse than what's forecasted for the Cardinals even though the graphic includes an extra SP for Milwaukee. 41 WAR for STL, 39 for Milwaukee, 35 each for Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

 

11 teams still yet to be released, including the Cubs.