General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

[sneakypower]

“wild reliever throws fastball on 3-0” doesn’t require a secret code, imo

the count got to 3-0 in part due to the helpful info relayed

[sneakypower]

Jacob deGrom has more RBI than ER

[UMFan83]

Jacob deGrom has more RBI than ER

 

jerk couldnt even delay his next start by a couple of days after leaving the previous start with a forearm strain.

[UMFan83]

So baseball reference made the change to include the Negro Leagues as Major Leagues, which is awesome but it completely changes a bunch of the leaderboards.

 

For example: Eugene Bremer now holds the single season ERA+ record with a 633 ERA+. He pitched in 6 games that season to set the record (albeit 50.2 IP). In fact, the top 14 leaders in single season ERA+ all come from the Negro Leagues. The top traditional MLB leader is Tim Keefe, and the top modern day record is unfornuately held by Trevor Bauer who had a 292 OPS+ last season. To find the modern day, non-Negro Leagues full season leader in ERA+, you have to go down to the 17th entry, Pedro Martinez who had a 291 OPS+ in 2000.

 

I'm not necessarily criticizing the decision to include the Negro Leagues as part of the Major Leagues, though I am concerned with the apparent lack of sample size considerations for a lot of these rate records. Another record is the single season BA record is now held by Tetelo Vargas, who in his age 37 season in 1943 hit .471 in 121 ABs. Hugh Duffy formerly held the mark, hitting .440 in 1894 in 539 AB. It's going to make a lot of records look unrecognizable, though I'll take it as an opportunity to learn more about the Negro Leagues and get familiar with the names and faces of those who have been largely ignored throughout baseball history.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not necessarily criticizing the decision to include the Negro Leagues as part of the Major Leagues, though I am concerned with the apparent lack of sample size considerations for a lot of these rate records.

 

What exactly is your concern?

[UMFan83]

I'm not necessarily criticizing the decision to include the Negro Leagues as part of the Major Leagues, though I am concerned with the apparent lack of sample size considerations for a lot of these rate records.

 

What exactly is your concern?

 

I guess just sample size. For someone to be the official all time single season BA leader with 130 ABs seems difficult to wrap my head around. But based on what I've read Negro leagues did not play long seasons. Like I said, I'm open to it and appreciate that this gives me the opportunity to learn more about the Negro Leagues. Just going to take some getting used to. That said, its really easy to look up stats and filter them by minimum ABs, etc if i want to.

[soccer10k]

I wonder why they didn’t just do what basketball reference does with the ABA stats where they have a combined column, an NBA only column and an ABA only column.

[soccer10k]

Arizona has now lost 22 straight road games which ties a ML record. They’re already down 3-0 to the Giants today also.

 

Meanwhile, Baltimore isn’t far behind and they’ve now lost 19 straight on the road.

[bukie]

Arizona has now lost 22 straight road games which ties a ML record. They’re already down 3-0 to the Giants today also.

 

Meanwhile, Baltimore isn’t far behind and they’ve now lost 19 straight on the road.

Interestingly enough, neither of these teams has the worst road record in baseball, as the Colorado Rockies are 5-27 on the road for the season.

[Clem Fandango]

https://fb.watch/6dH4J65yk8/

[17 Seconds]

gleyber is not so good. what a clutch trade that was for the cubs.

[OleMissCub]

I'm not necessarily criticizing the decision to include the Negro Leagues as part of the Major Leagues, though I am concerned with the apparent lack of sample size considerations for a lot of these rate records.

 

What exactly is your concern?

 

I guess just sample size. For someone to be the official all time single season BA leader with 130 ABs seems difficult to wrap my head around. But based on what I've read Negro leagues did not play long seasons. Like I said, I'm open to it and appreciate that this gives me the opportunity to learn more about the Negro Leagues. Just going to take some getting used to. That said, its really easy to look up stats and filter them by minimum ABs, etc if i want to.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

 

Oh wow. Yeah, they probably need to adjust the AB’s per season up a smidge. Currently the guy with the highest single season BA on BR managed to do it with only 57 hits. He only had 121 AB’s that year and only played 30 games. Josh Gibson in second place had 249 AB’s (which is plenty IMO). Third place had 246 AB’s in his season.

 

Negro leagues did have shorter seasons but if you look at their BA reference pages the main issue is missing data. I think their seasons were actually around 80-100 games but we just don’t have the box scores for those games sadly.

[UMFan83]

 

What exactly is your concern?

 

I guess just sample size. For someone to be the official all time single season BA leader with 130 ABs seems difficult to wrap my head around. But based on what I've read Negro leagues did not play long seasons. Like I said, I'm open to it and appreciate that this gives me the opportunity to learn more about the Negro Leagues. Just going to take some getting used to. That said, its really easy to look up stats and filter them by minimum ABs, etc if i want to.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

 

Oh wow. Yeah, they probably need to adjust the AB’s per season up a smidge. Currently the guy with the highest single season BA on BR managed to do it with only 57 hits. He only had 121 AB’s that year and only played 30 games. Josh Gibson in second place had 249 AB’s (which is plenty IMO). Third place had 246 AB’s in his season.

 

Negro leagues did have shorter seasons but if you look at their BA reference pages the main issue is missing data. I think their seasons were actually around 80-100 games but we just don’t have the box scores for those games sadly.

 

I was reading about this and unless I’m mistaken it sounds like their seasons were actually pretty short but they played a ton of exhibition games. That’s why the claim is that Josh Gibson had over 800 HRs but according to BR it’s like 150. That’s what it said in the BR article announcing this change

[OleMissCub]

I was reading about this and unless I’m mistaken it sounds like their seasons were actually pretty short but they played a ton of exhibition games. That’s why the claim is that Josh Gibson had over 800 HRs but according to BR it’s like 150. That’s what it said in the BR article announcing this change

 

Yes, “barnstorming” was common for MLB players as well as a way to supplement their income. But their regular seasons were 80-100 games. Again, the data is just totally jacked up unfortunately.

 

Good example: take a look at Oscar Charleston in 1922. It says he played 101 games that year for the ABC’s yet the team record says 50-34-1 and the Manager’s record for that season is 63-42-2. If you look at Charleston’s record as a manager, it looks like he was averaging about 80 games a year when he was managing the Crawfords.

[NonProfitCow]

[sneakypower]

Jacob deGrom has more RBI than ER

[Rex Buckingham]

Clearly, the Cubs are a frustrating team to follow. But it could be worse...

 

 

6-42 in their last 48 games. Wow

[Derwood]

Schwarber with dong #19

[d_money]

Schwarber with dong #19

He is missed

[We Got The Whole 9]

Been watching the highlights of his dongs and he's been handling a lot of pitches that he really failed massively on when with the Cubs. Granted it's basically a 2 weak tear he's on and he's still only at an 844 OPS... really seems like he'd be higher... but anyway I've seen him turn on a couple fastballs that were well above the zone, breaking balls on the outer half that he's gone oppo on. Dude is locked the hell in right now.

[Backtobanks]

Been watching the highlights of his dongs and he's been handling a lot of pitches that he really failed massively on when with the Cubs. Granted it's basically a 2 weak tear he's on and he's still only at an 844 OPS... really seems like he'd be higher... but anyway I've seen him turn on a couple fastballs that were well above the zone, breaking balls on the outer half that he's gone oppo on. Dude is locked the hell in right now.

 

He is channeling his inner Patrick Wisdom.

[Brian]

the all star games jerseys are something

 

[Derwood]

Yikes. They're almost "weird but interesting" until you get to that trim on the sleeves, and then they lost me completely

[Andy]

Those are so spectacularly terrible that they're interesting.

 

Not even in the same stratosphere as being good, but interesting.

[WrigleyField 22]

Whatever they were trying to accomplish begind the logo didn't work.