Blackhawks 15-16 season

[UMFan83]

As someone mentioned above, this exercise gets a lot easier if they 100% determine that players with no movement clauses can't be picked. I don't know how common those are across the league, but that article made it seem like they were trying to get more talent to the expansion teams. If they can't pick no movement guys and other teams are similar to the Hawks, I can't imagine them getting many good players.

 

From Capfriendly.com, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Seabrook, Keith, Hammer, and Crawford all have NMC or NTCs.

 

Going by one goalie, 8 skaters, you'd end up with:

 

Darling or whoever their best goalie prospect is

Anisimov

Kruger

Teuvo

Panarin (assuming KHL counts as professional experience)

TVR

Gustafsson

Hartmann???

McNeill???

 

Hmm, I was assuming that the NMC players would count towards the players you can protect, not as additional keepers

[jersey cubs fan]

yeah, the league isn't going to reward teams just because they allowed no movement clauses.

 

I assume a no movement clause will require protection

[Banedon]

Here's the tweet I saw on the subject.

 

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/710124967598415872[/tweet]

[jersey cubs fan]

Here's the tweet I saw on the subject.

 

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/710124967598415872[/tweet]

I don't think that is the question.

 

I would assume they wouldn't be available because that would violate specific language in their contracts. The question is if you have to use one of your protected spots on them, which I also assume you would have to do.

[squally1313]

Yeah then we'd be in trouble if that was the case. If NMCs are as prevelant around the league as they are for the Hawks (probably not quite to the same extent), there'd be a lot of young talent available. We'd be able to protect Panarin and Anisimov or Kruger, and not much else.

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22 minutes of ice time for rozsival tonight, lol

[UMFan83]

1 win in our last 6 games, yuck

[biittner77]

A few thoughts on expansion based on the idea that they realize that requiring teams to protect players with no movement clauses is unworkable because it takes too much talent out of the pool and would make it very difficult for the expansion team to reach the cap floor.

 

If you expose Seabrook, he gets taken pretty early on and becomes the Captain of that team. Some might welcome the cap relief but the Hawks don't really have anyone that can replace him in the system.

 

Hossa would only cost another team ~$1 million per season (not the $4 million cap hit that he costs the Hawks) for the rest of how long he decides to play. If the team wanted to have credibility their first season, they might very well take Hossa so he could mentor all the young guys they would presumably take. Hossa would also be a decent trade chip during that first season if they decided to go that route.

 

The idea that Crawford isn't worth his contract should be put to rest after the season he's had. He's carried the Hawks all year. Darling would be a considerable step down in talent.

 

I would imagine that the draft would be set up with some sort of protection for teams losing players being able to protect other players after they've lost somebody. That would help them keep Gustafson who might not get protected since Q seems to love TVR for reasons that no one understands.

[Brian707]

I think the way this plays out for the Hawks assuming they don't fall to 4th in the Central is a path to the Cup of STL-NSH-LA-Eastern team. Like last year only home ice in the 2nd round. I think Dallas takes the Central but loses to Nashville in the 1st Rd.

 

As for expansion, I think if Hossa were to be picked up by Las Vegas I think he just would retire. Speaking of Vegas, I would have to think if teams like Chicago, Detroit, NYR, the So Cal teams, and the 7 Canadian teams their arena will be filled with those fans probably at 90%

[UMFan83]

I think the way this plays out for the Hawks assuming they don't fall to 4th in the Central is a path to the Cup of STL-NSH-LA-Eastern team. Like last year only home ice in the 2nd round. I think Dallas takes the Central but loses to Nashville in the 1st Rd.

 

 

Yeah it doesn't really matter if we place 1st, 2nd or 3rd. As long as we don't finish 4th as I don't want to play the Kings in the first round (although might be easier to go through their division in the second round).

 

I came to the conclusion that the Hawks basically replaced 25% of their forwards less than a month ago, finding comfort with your new teammates is sometimes difficult at first. That plus the annual March swoon, these guys have played so much hockey over the last 4 seasons. I figured the new blood would be relatively fresh and give us a boost but oh well.

 

The Hawks have done this often enough that its tough to legit worry until they prove that it wasn't a swoon and they just aren't good enough.

[biittner77]

Corey Crawford out with UBI, Leighton recalled from Rock Vegas.

[UMFan83]

Corey Crawford out with UBI, Leighton recalled from Rock Vegas.

 

wtf is UBI?

 

edit: nevermind got it

[minnesotacubsfan]

Corey Crawford out with UBI, Leighton recalled from Rock Vegas.

 

 

Does anyone know how long? I don't have confidence that this fantastic streak we're on is going to end with the likes of Darling.

[biittner77]

Corey Crawford out with UBI, Leighton recalled from Rock Vegas.

 

 

Does anyone know how long? I don't have confidence that this fantastic streak we're on is going to end with the likes of Darling.

 

The speculation is that it's one of 4 things:

 

Back- which could be just a few days, hopefully

 

Shoulder: maybe he FOOSHed it which could be a couple weeks

 

Concussion: who knows?

 

Something else that's less severe.

[UMFan83]

Corey Crawford out with UBI, Leighton recalled from Rock Vegas.

 

 

Does anyone know how long? I don't have confidence that this fantastic streak we're on is going to end with the likes of Darling.

 

The speculation is that it's one of 4 things:

 

Back- which could be just a few days, hopefully

 

Shoulder: maybe he FOOSHed it which could be a couple weeks

 

Concussion: who knows?

 

Something else that's less severe.

 

Has he attended any concerts recently?

[biittner77]

I think we'll see the line blender set to puree these last few games. Here's a couple things I'd like to see once Kruger gets back:

 

Ladd-Toews Shaw

superpak- I understand the motives for using Kane to get Toews going but this line should always be together.

Fleischman- Teuvo- Hossa

Desjardins- Kruger- Weise

 

or

Fleischman-Toews-Hossa

superpak

Ladd-Tuevo- Weise

Desjardins- Kruger-Shaw

[jersey cubs fan]

did you know the Blackhawks have a revenge porn douche in their system?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garret_Ross

 

Professional

On April 9, 2013, the Chicago Blackhawks of the National Hockey League signed Ross to a three-year entry-level contract.[2]

 

In March 2016, Ross was charged with a felony revenge porn charge for disseminating a photo of a woman engaged in a sexual act. Officials said Ross should have known that the image was to remain private, and that the woman had not consented to the dissemination.[3]

[squally1313]

I think we'll see the line blender set to puree these last few games. Here's a couple things I'd like to see once Kruger gets back:

 

Ladd-Toews Shaw

superpak- I understand the motives for using Kane to get Toews going but this line should always be together.

Fleischman- Teuvo- Hossa

Desjardins- Kruger- Weise

 

or

Fleischman-Toews-Hossa

superpak

Ladd-Tuevo- Weise

Desjardins- Kruger-Shaw

 

I'd love to see that second group get some time. That fourth line can hopefully play the shutdown line, or at least shutting down the other teams second line while Toews' takes out their top one.

 

I still think if we fall behind in the series, Q is going to switch Anisimov and Toews. He kept Saad/Toews/Kane for desperate situations last year, and Kane/Toews/Hossa in the couple years before that. I think this year 72/19/88 is his ace in the hole. Leaving Fleischmann and Hossa with Anisimov isn't the worst situation then either.

 

Not that this is news, but I think the pairings are going to be far more important. Need to find some way to cobble together an effective second pairing behind some version of Hammer, Seabs, and Keith. We've shown we can win with dead bodies on the third pairing, but need someone to step up and take 20 minutes a game.

[UMFan83]

Watching the Hawks has not been fun at all lately

 

I know none of this matters in a few weeks but it seems like every other game we are being blown out by the stars

[biittner77]

Watching the Hawks has not been fun at all lately

 

I know none of this matters in a few weeks but it seems like every other game we are being blown out by the stars

 

The fact that it happens every year doesn't make it suck any less. It feels different this year too. But with the playoff set up the way it is, is it really?

 

Once again, it looks like the Hawks will play the Blues in the 1st round. What will be really interesting to see is if the Kings can secure home ice. That would mean the Stars would get the Preds, whom they might have trouble beating as opposed to the Avalanche. That would be a fun series but the Stars probably win.

[UMFan83]

Watching the Hawks has not been fun at all lately

 

I know none of this matters in a few weeks but it seems like every other game we are being blown out by the stars

 

The fact that it happens every year doesn't make it suck any less. It feels different this year too. But with the playoff set up the way it is, is it really?

 

Once again, it looks like the Hawks will play the Blues in the 1st round. What will be really interesting to see is if the Kings can secure home ice. That would mean the Stars would get the Preds, whom they might have trouble beating as opposed to the Avalanche. That would be a fun series but the Stars probably win.

 

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25525638/how-concerned-should-blackhawks-be-with-late-season-slump

 

This article suggests that statistically the Hawks are actually playing considerably worse than they were in previous years' slumps.

 

Since Feb. 9, when this current slump started, the Blackhawks have been a middle of the pack team across the board, especially in several of the key areas they usually dominate in, from shots attempts for and against, to goal prevention, to the penalty kill. Those are the key areas Cup winning teams tend to excel, and in recent years, the Blackhawks have.

 

Right now, they are not. What should be a concern isn't just how they are playing at the moment, but how much they have dropped off from the start of the year.

 

Where the Blackhawks mostly remained the same last season, other than a drop in shooting percentage, this year's team has slid in some important areas, going from a top possession team (shot attempts percentage) to a bad one but giving up more total shots than we've seen from them in the past and not creating anywhere near as many of their own.

 

The shots against numbers on their own aren't overly alarming, and a lot of their recent goal prevention problems have come from a slump in goaltending (which should rebound), but they are still giving up more chances and opportunities than we have seen from Blackhawks teams in the past. And this doesn't even get into their struggles on the penalty kill where they have been a bottom-10 team in the league for the season, and have only successfully killed off 62 percent of their penalties during this late-season slump. Those trends simply cannot continue in the playoffs.

 

I have had the Blackhawks as a top contender for most of the season, and expected them to take a big step forward after the trade deadline when they added Andrew Ladd, Tomas Fleischmann and Dale Weise. It obviously has not happened yet.

 

Also Hawks are only 4 points ahead of Nashville and they have a game in hand. If the slump continues we could be looking at a first round against LAK

[biittner77]

Getting Kruger back will help in a lot of these areas.

 

You could make the case that the Kings are a better match up for the Hawks than The Stars or Preds. one of whom they'd have to face in the 2nd round if they finish 3rd. If the Hawks were to face the Kings and won that series, it gives them the winner of the Sha-arks/ Ducks series. I'd take either of those match ups.

[biittner77]

did you know the Blackhawks have a revenge porn douche in their system?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garret_Ross

 

Professional

On April 9, 2013, the Chicago Blackhawks of the National Hockey League signed Ross to a three-year entry-level contract.[2]

 

In March 2016, Ross was charged with a felony revenge porn charge for disseminating a photo of a woman engaged in a sexual act. Officials said Ross should have known that the image was to remain private, and that the woman had not consented to the dissemination.[3]

 

How many people knew that revenge porn was a crime before hearing about this case?

[jersey cubs fan]

did you know the Blackhawks have a revenge porn douche in their system?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garret_Ross

 

Professional

On April 9, 2013, the Chicago Blackhawks of the National Hockey League signed Ross to a three-year entry-level contract.[2]

 

In March 2016, Ross was charged with a felony revenge porn charge for disseminating a photo of a woman engaged in a sexual act. Officials said Ross should have known that the image was to remain private, and that the woman had not consented to the dissemination.[3]

 

How many people knew that revenge porn was a crime before hearing about this case?

A lot of people. It's been in the news quite a bit for the past couple years.

[jersey cubs fan]

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