Our future at CF?

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Safe to assume everyone who wanted Fowler for 4-60 still feel that way? Or that he has least gets that from some team?

 

It hasn't been that long since this discussion so opinions probably haven't changed, but just checking.

[downsr30]

I was always against it. I was also a fan of the Venable/Jackson route. I like Fowler, but only on a qualifying offer or at 12mil/year for 3 years max. Heyward is a guy I could deal with the Cubs giving $48mil/4 years. He has great defensive numbers and has a great eye. Doesn't really solve CF though.

 

 

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[Cubswin11]

I was always against it. I was also a fan of the Venable/Jackson route. I like Fowler, but only on a qualifying offer or at 12mil/year for 3 years max. Heyward is a guy I could deal with the Cubs giving $48mil/4 years. He has great defensive numbers and has a great eye. Doesn't really solve CF though.

 

 

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He's going to get like 3-4xs that amount

[downsr30]

Who do you have that has set the bar for that?

 

 

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[squally1313]

I know there are much bigger issues at play here, but I just noticed Almora is at about 100 AA games with a BAPIP in the 260s. I know he's not a speedster or anything, but that seems pretty low for someone as athletic as he is supposed to be. Has this been explained by poor contact, or is there a chance for statistical improvement (back to just mediocre even) based purely on luck evening out?

[downsr30]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/estimating-jason-heywards-next-contract/ found an article to back up your argument. With that being said - no chance in hell I'd even remotely consider that for Heyward.

 

 

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[Cubswin11]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/estimating-jason-heywards-next-contract/ found an article to back up your argument. With that being said - no chance in hell I'd even remotely consider that for Heyward.

 

 

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If the FO feels he can play CF for the majority of the contract I'd be completely fine giving him that kind of money.

[Cubswin11]

I know there are much bigger issues at play here, but I just noticed Almora is at about 100 AA games with a BAPIP in the 260s. I know he's not a speedster or anything, but that seems pretty low for someone as athletic as he is supposed to be. Has this been explained by poor contact, or is there a chance for statistical improvement (back to just mediocre even) based purely on luck evening out?

I think it's largely due to the fact he puts the ball in play so much, often weakly, combined with not great speed (i.e. it's not likely he's going to rack up a lot of infield hits) that his BABIP will probably always be a bit low with his current approach (his combined bb/k% rate is in the mid teens in AA so he's putting the ball in play over 80% of the time).

Edited July 6, 2015 by Cubswin11

[Hairyducked Idiot]

My guess is both. He makes weak contact and could probably sustain a bit more BABIP.

[downsr30]

Jason Heyward at $200 million makes me cringe.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

Safe to assume everyone who wanted Fowler for 4-60 still feel that way? Or that he has least gets that from some team?

 

It hasn't been that long since this discussion so opinions probably haven't changed, but just checking.

 

John Baker has some ideas.

 

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Not sure how that will help him come to any conclusions about Fowler.

 

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[sneakypower]

i still prefer Fowler to Jackson & Venable, and would be more than glad to keep him if his recent struggles suppress his asking price to 3/45 or whatever

[OleMissCub]

Gotta bring Dexter back, right?

[hawkeyecub]

I hope so. I love that guy.

[davell]

I really hope we do. For no true reason, I feel like he'll give us a reasonable discount to stay here too.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Was really hoping this thread never got bumped up.