Official Bring The DH To The NL Thread

[SouthSideRyan]

Opponents of the DH often throw out things like "why not just have 9 DH's and 9 designated fielders?!?" and in all honestly I'd probably enjoy that a lot for the reasons you laid out. You could end up with some really entertaining specialized talents. Think of it like how teams are broken up in the NFL.

 

How about just 6 hitters?

[Derwood]

Isn't the reality that most #9 hitters in the AL kinda suck ass?

 

The DH doesn't magically get rid of bad hitters on the team. There's never going to be enough good hitters to fill the starting lineups of all the teams.

 

The DH doesn't magically mean "ALL THE DONGS" either

[Sammy Sofa]

Isn't the reality that most #9 hitters in the AL kinda suck ass?

 

The DH doesn't magically get rid of bad hitters on the team. There's never going to be enough good hitters to fill the starting lineups of all the teams.

 

The DH doesn't magically mean "ALL THE DONGS" either

 

No, but it does means more dongs.

 

And I seriously doubt that the #9 spot in the AL puts up comparable numbers with the pitchers' spot in the NL.

[XZero771679666304]

Isn't the reality that most #9 hitters in the AL kinda suck ass?

 

The DH doesn't magically get rid of bad hitters on the team. There's never going to be enough good hitters to fill the starting lineups of all the teams.

 

The DH doesn't magically mean "ALL THE DONGS" either

 

No, but it does means more dongs.

 

And I seriously doubt that the #9 spot in the AL puts up comparable numbers with the pitchers' spot in the NL.

 

 

AL #9 hitters have collectively OPS'ed about .150-.200 higher than NL #9s over the past several years.

 

And since you're dong crazy, over the past five years, the Al #9s out homered NL #9s 699-447.

 

Obviously, it's not a straight up comparison of #9 hitters. Adding the DH wouldn't just be pulling the best hitter off of your bench and inserting him into the lineup, it's allowing you to potentially go out and get an impact bat to replace your worst hitter, with no need to worry about position.

 

I used to be in the camp that enjoyed the pseudo-intrigue that comes with NL baseball, but I'm completely over it.

[Sammy Sofa]

AL #9 hitters have collectively OPS'ed about .150-.200 higher than NL #9s over the past several years.

 

And since you're dong crazy, over the past five years, the Al #9s out homered NL #9s 699-447.

 

Obviously, it's not a straight up comparison of #9 hitters. Adding the DH wouldn't just be pulling the best hitter off of your bench and inserting him into the lineup, it's allowing you to potentially go out and get an impact bat to replace your worst hitter, with no need to worry about position.

 

Yes, thank you. I was gonna try and Derwood that out a while, but your way is much better.

Edited April 27, 2015 by Sammy Sofa

[manbearcub]

How about we get rid of the DH at all levels so then pitchers would actually be competent hitters.

[Derwood]

AL #9 hitters have collectively OPS'ed about .150-.200 higher than NL #9s over the past several years.

 

And since you're dong crazy, over the past five years, the Al #9s out homered NL #9s 699-447.

 

Obviously, it's not a straight up comparison of #9 hitters. Adding the DH wouldn't just be pulling the best hitter off of your bench and inserting him into the lineup, it's allowing you to potentially go out and get an impact bat to replace your worst hitter, with no need to worry about position.

 

Yes, thank you. I was gonna try and Derwood that out a while, but your ways is much better.

 

I wasn't asserting that #9 AL hitter were as bad as pitchers, you doof

[NonProfitCow]

How about we get rid of the DH at all levels so then pitchers would actually be competent hitters.

How about we have all position players have to pitch an inning each game so then position players would be competent pitchers.

[Sammy Sofa]

AL #9 hitters have collectively OPS'ed about .150-.200 higher than NL #9s over the past several years.

 

And since you're dong crazy, over the past five years, the Al #9s out homered NL #9s 699-447.

 

Obviously, it's not a straight up comparison of #9 hitters. Adding the DH wouldn't just be pulling the best hitter off of your bench and inserting him into the lineup, it's allowing you to potentially go out and get an impact bat to replace your worst hitter, with no need to worry about position.

 

Yes, thank you. I was gonna try and Derwood that out a while, but your ways is much better.

 

I wasn't asserting that #9 AL hitter were as bad as pitchers, you doof

 

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[biittner77]

Marginalize it all you want, there is more strategy in the NL game because of how it affects pitching match ups and how long to leave the starting pitcher in the game. That's always been the argument in favor of not having the DH and I used to agree.

 

The DH changes the overall strategy it doesn't eliminate it. Don't AL teams pinch hit for their worst hitter in key spots? Isn't there still the argument between full time DH vs. using it as half day off for position players?

 

The DH adds offense. Most fans want more offense. The League certainly wants more offense. There had to be a time when AL fans were against the DH. I don't hear any of them complaining now. This will happen pretty soon.

[MSG T]

How about we get rid of the DH at all levels so then pitchers would actually be competent hitters.

For the most part they weren't competent before the DH existed. Why would that change if we got rid of it everywhere else now? Pitchers have never been very good hitters because they aren't going to spend the time working on it when they get 130 PAs (pre-specialization of pitchers) to 60 PAs (last 20-30 years) per season.

 

There are always exceptions, but for the most part, they've always been fairly bad.

[Guest]

How about we get rid of the DH at all levels so then pitchers would actually be competent hitters.

How about we have all position players have to pitch an inning each game so then position players would be competent pitchers.

 

lmaooooo

[Banedon]

@LenKasper

 

For the rec I prefer no DH in either league. But will never happen. I'm for same rules in both leagues. Reluctantly its time for DH MLB-wide

 

@LenKasper

 

P's have enough inj concerns w/their arms. Freak running/batting accidents unnecessary. Plus DH could get Schwarber/Vogelback here sooner :)

 

@LenKasper

 

With all the IL play, it's silly to continue to have different rules. So, for me, same rules > my disdain for DH. It's time.

[Andy]

Even in Tweets, it's incredible how concisely and politely Len can make his points.

[Guest]

@LenKasper

 

For the rec I prefer no DH in either league. But will never happen. I'm for same rules in both leagues. Reluctantly its time for DH MLB-wide

 

@LenKasper

 

P's have enough inj concerns w/their arms. Freak running/batting accidents unnecessary. Plus DH could get Schwarber/Vogelback here sooner :)

 

@LenKasper

 

With all the IL play, it's silly to continue to have different rules. So, for me, same rules > my disdain for DH. It's time.

 

Amazes me how many responses there are not understanding why the DH isn't going anywhere.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, well, people are dumb apes.

[Guest]

Concise? He used three tweets. tldr

[tfarks]

Len could moderate a presidential debate.

[jersey cubs fan]

Even in Tweets, it's incredible how concisely and politely Len can make his points.

imagined if he practiced tweeting 10 more minutes each day

[Tracer Bullet]

I don't like the dh

[Brian707]

I have always been anti DH but since the AL will never get rid of it, the NL should go to it ASAP.

[Tracer Bullet]

Opponents of the DH often throw out things like "why not just have 9 DH's and 9 designated fielders?!?" and in all honestly I'd probably enjoy that a lot for the reasons you laid out. You could end up with some really entertaining specialized talents. Think of it like how teams are broken up in the NFL.

 

How about just 6 hitters?

 

I'd have an 8 hitters than a DH. If you're so bad at fielding that you can't even play first base, you shouldn't be playing baseball.

[shnsajax]

The NL since '98 has hit more HR's than the AL 13 times.

[jersey cubs fan]

The NL since '98 has hit more HR's than the AL 13 times.

 

Bonds, Sosa, McGwire good Pujols, vs ARod, Thome and bad Pujols?

 

How did the league SLG match up?

[Janelle-Alexis]

The NL since '98 has hit more HR's than the AL 13 times.

 

The NL had two more teams for most of that time. NL teams averaged more HRs than AL teams three times in that period. In 2001, 2007, 2008.