Official Bring The DH To The NL Thread

[Sammy Sofa]

The NL since '98 has hit more HR's than the AL 13 times.

 

The NL had two more teams for most of that time. NL teams averaged more HRs than AL teams three times in that period. In 2001, 2007, 2008.

 

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[Guest]

The NL since '98 has hit more HR's than the AL 13 times.

 

The NL had two more teams for most of that time. NL teams averaged more HRs than AL teams three times in that period. In 2001, 2007, 2008.

Nice - I knew goony's Bonds/Sosa reasoning wasn't enough to add up.

[jersey cubs fan]

The NL since '98 has hit more HR's than the AL 13 times.

 

The NL had two more teams for most of that time. NL teams averaged more HRs than AL teams three times in that period. In 2001, 2007, 2008.

Nice - I knew goony's Bonds/Sosa reasoning wasn't enough to add up.

 

well, that wasn't really my reasoning as much as just the first thing I thought of when that note was made. My question was about SLG.

 

Every time I have looked it seems to me the AL has had a ~10 point advantage in SLG.

[Guest]

The NL since '98 has hit more HR's than the AL 13 times.

 

The NL had two more teams for most of that time. NL teams averaged more HRs than AL teams three times in that period. In 2001, 2007, 2008.

Nice - I knew goony's Bonds/Sosa reasoning wasn't enough to add up.

 

well, that wasn't really my reasoning as much as just the first thing I thought of when that note was made. My question was about SLG.

 

Every time I have looked it seems to me the AL has had a ~10 point advantage in SLG.

No, I know it wasn't you're defense or anything but rather your attempt to explain away the faulty reasoning, but it still fell short of being the nail in the coffin dismissal.

[Guest]

Apparenly the Phillies fucked up the NL's chances of adding the DH back in 1980: http://www.naplesnews.com/sports/columnists/david-moulton-how-fishing-trip-and-phillies-kept-d

[Derwood]

How much solidarity is there in the union about adding the DH? I would think NL pitchers would oppose it

[Guest]

How much solidarity is there in the union about adding the DH? I would think NL pitchers would oppose it

Why, cuz they'll face one better batter?

[Guest]

How much solidarity is there in the union about adding the DH? I would think NL pitchers would oppose it

A lot.

[Sammy Sofa]

There's no such thing as an "NL Pitcher."

 

"Man, there is NO WAY I will ever ever ever pitch in the AL; it's a lock that I will be pitching forever in the league I'm pitching in right now."

[Tracer Bullet]

There's no such thing as an "NL Pitcher."

 

"Man, there is NO WAY I will ever ever ever pitch in the AL; it's a lock that I will be pitching forever in the league I'm pitching in right now."

 

His point might have been that some pitchers prefer pitching in the NL b/c they actually want to hit.

[jersey cubs fan]

There's no such thing as an "NL Pitcher."

 

"Man, there is NO WAY I will ever ever ever pitch in the AL; it's a lock that I will be pitching forever in the league I'm pitching in right now."

 

His point might have been that some pitchers prefer pitching in the NL b/c they actually want to hit.

Or they prefer pitching in the NL because they prefer to face 8 hitters instead of 9.

[Sammy Sofa]

There's no such thing as an "NL Pitcher."

 

"Man, there is NO WAY I will ever ever ever pitch in the AL; it's a lock that I will be pitching forever in the league I'm pitching in right now."

 

His point might have been that some pitchers prefer pitching in the NL b/c they actually want to hit.

 

Yes, I know;I sincerely doubt there are many MLB pitchers that are going to turn down better deals to pitch in the AL, regardless of what they prefer. Guys that go out of their way to actually do that over the course of their careers are likely very scattered outliers.

 

So, no, it's not likely going to be a union issue because of "NL pitchers."

[Sammy Sofa]

Plus it's not like teams wouldn't still have the option to use a rare freak like Zambrano who both wants to hit and can hit.

[seanimal]

i still think the dh should only take the at-bats of the starting pitcher, if only because it might cause maddon to leave electric ladyland in for greater than 80 pitches a game

[Andy]

i still think the dh should only take the at-bats of the starting pitcher, if only because it might cause maddon to leave electric ladyland in for greater than 80 pitches a game

If the DH must be part of the game, this is an interesting compromise idea, though I doubt it would be enacted.

[Sammy Sofa]

The DH is usually hitting in place of the pitcher, but not always.

 

Besides, let's say the player they're hitting in place off goes down with an injury in the second; they're supposed to now put in a pinch-hitter instead? If they're hitting for the pitcher, do they have to change the DH every time the pitcher changes?

[SouthSideRyan]

The DH is usually hitting in place of the pitcher, but not always.

 

Besides, let's say the player they're hitting in place off goes down with an injury in the second; they're supposed to now put in a pinch-hitter instead? If they're hitting for the pitcher, do they have to change the DH every time the pitcher changes?

 

The DH has to be for the pitcher.

[Sammy Sofa]

D'oh, that's right.

 

Can the pitcher be the DH?

 

But sticking with the rest, it seems kind of goofy to have to pinch hit for the DH if the starting pitcher exits the game early.

[Tracer Bullet]

half the posts in this thread are yours, including dropping the mic for a comment you didn't make, and you don't even know that the dh can only be for the pitcher?

[jersey cubs fan]

D'oh, that's right.

 

Can the pitcher be the DH?

 

But sticking with the rest, it seems kind of goofy to have to pinch hit for the DH if the starting pitcher exits the game early.

You don't have to pinch hit for the DH if you move him to a position.

[Sammy Sofa]

half the posts in this thread are yours, including dropping the mic for a comment you didn't make, and you don't even know that the dh can only be for the pitcher?

 

Man, if you're thinking I know everything then prepare to be disappointed. A LOT.

[Deeg]

If Soler strained his hammy running out that double, I think that would be an iron-clad case for instituting the designated runner.

[Geech]

Plus it's not like teams wouldn't still have the option to use a rare freak like Zambrano who both wants to hit and can hit.

 

That strikes me as very unlikely. The NL DH is tantamount to the end of pitchers distinguishing themselves with the bat.

[Sammy Sofa]

Plus it's not like teams wouldn't still have the option to use a rare freak like Zambrano who both wants to hit and can hit.

 

That strikes me as very unlikely. The NL DH is tantamount to the end of pitchers distinguishing themselves with the bat.

 

That's not much of a loss.

[Geech]

Plus it's not like teams wouldn't still have the option to use a rare freak like Zambrano who both wants to hit and can hit.

 

That strikes me as very unlikely. The NL DH is tantamount to the end of pitchers distinguishing themselves with the bat.

 

That's not much of a loss.

 

It's not surprising that you think so, but I think it contributed a lot to making Zambrano fun as a player.