2015 Bears Offseason (Foxy new Head Coach page 104)

[Guest]

I hate these outside consultants, probably won't be as disastrous as their previous GM search but disappointing they won't have a true FB guy at the top.

 

This is such a poorly run organization.

 

Isn't this pretty much the norm (or close to it) when ownership needs to hire new football people?

[jersey cubs fan]

I hate these outside consultants, probably won't be as disastrous as their previous GM search but disappointing they won't have a true FB guy at the top.

 

This is such a poorly run organization.

 

They have a true FB guy running the consulting situation. They will have a true FB guy at the head of football operations. The very top of the organization is not what matters.

[UK1679666180]

Overall, just kinda bummed about Emery not working out, because he seemed to be a really smart guy that just made a lot of poor personnel and draft decisions.

 

Subpar drafts, FAs, and trades.

 

Probably would not hurt if they could have kept him in a scouting role.

 

This division craps and having to start there is annoying.

[Guest]

Yea this isn't quite what I was hoping to hear, though maybe they'll still push Phillips to the side.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yea this isn't quite what I was hoping to hear, though maybe they'll still push Phillips to the side.

 

I'm not hung up on the Philips situation and I do not think others should be. A quality GM/coach combo can easily win with this ownership/president set-up. Ted is effectively the business guy.

[mul21]

Yea this isn't quite what I was hoping to hear, though maybe they'll still push Phillips to the side.

 

I'm not hung up on the Philips situation and I do not think others should be. A quality GM/coach combo can easily win with this ownership/president set-up. Ted is effectively the business guy.

 

Agreed. The fact that they're bringing in Accorsi to be the voice of football reason makes me feel better about the situation. I have no idea how qualified he is, but the fact that the last coach he hired has been in the job as long as he has tells me he has a decent idea of what he's doing.

[UK1679666180]

I hate these outside consultants, probably won't be as disastrous as their previous GM search but disappointing they won't have a true FB guy at the top.

 

This is such a poorly run organization.

 

They have a true FB guy running the consulting situation. They will have a true FB guy at the head of football operations. The very top of the organization is not what matters.

 

This consultant was alive during Pearl Harbor who will make recommendations for the coach and GM with Phillips and McCaskey making the final choice.

 

Don't like it.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yea this isn't quite what I was hoping to hear, though maybe they'll still push Phillips to the side.

 

I'm not hung up on the Philips situation and I do not think others should be. A quality GM/coach combo can easily win with this ownership/president set-up. Ted is effectively the business guy.

 

Agreed. The fact that they're bringing in Accorsi to be the voice of football reason makes me feel better about the situation. I have no idea how qualified he is, but the fact that the last coach he hired has been in the job as long as he has tells me he has a decent idea of what he's doing.

 

Accorsi is very qualified. He's been a longtime GM and successful and is still involved with the league.

 

The truth of the matter is there is no purpose for a football decision making guy above the GM. Such a guy can only meddle in the GMs decisions on draft day. Once a guy like Ernie makes his recommendations, and, assuming they are hired, there would be no role for such a man going forward. The key is finding the right GM/coach combo.

[gscool89]

Virginia is "pissed off". Watch out everyone.

[UK1679666180]

I'd rather whoever is consulting that they have had a prominent role in football within the last 8 years.

[Guest]

I hate these outside consultants, probably won't be as disastrous as their previous GM search but disappointing they won't have a true FB guy at the top.

 

This is such a poorly run organization.

 

They have a true FB guy running the consulting situation. They will have a true FB guy at the head of football operations. The very top of the organization is not what matters.

 

This consultant was alive during Pearl Harbor who will make recommendations for the coach and GM with Phillips and McCaskey making the final choice.

 

Don't like it.

 

And McCaskey (and maybe Phillips) would be making the choice on the head football guy they'd hire in an alternate (no outside consultant) scenario. I don't really get where you're going with this.

[jersey cubs fan]

I hate these outside consultants, probably won't be as disastrous as their previous GM search but disappointing they won't have a true FB guy at the top.

 

This is such a poorly run organization.

 

They have a true FB guy running the consulting situation. They will have a true FB guy at the head of football operations. The very top of the organization is not what matters.

 

This consultant was alive during Pearl Harbor who will make recommendations for the coach and GM with Phillips and McCaskey making the final choice.

 

Don't like it.

 

He's not going to be running the thing day to day. His age is meaningless. He's a perfectly suitable man for the job.

[Banedon]

@NFLosophy

 

Ernie Accorsi puts it simply: "You have to find a franchise QB and you have to find the guys to knock 'em down."

[Cubfanintheknow]

Yea this isn't quite what I was hoping to hear, though maybe they'll still push Phillips to the side.

 

I'm not hung up on the Philips situation and I do not think others should be. A quality GM/coach combo can easily win with this ownership/president set-up. Ted is effectively the business guy.

 

Agreed. The fact that they're bringing in Accorsi to be the voice of football reason makes me feel better about the situation. I have no idea how qualified he is, but the fact that the last coach he hired has been in the job as long as he has tells me he has a decent idea of what he's doing.

 

That Accorsi will be leading the search for a GM/HC and not Phillips speaks volumes about McCaskey's faith in Phillips to do this job correctly.

[Guest]

Yea this isn't quite what I was hoping to hear, though maybe they'll still push Phillips to the side.

 

I'm not hung up on the Philips situation and I do not think others should be. A quality GM/coach combo can easily win with this ownership/president set-up. Ted is effectively the business guy.

 

Agreed. The fact that they're bringing in Accorsi to be the voice of football reason makes me feel better about the situation. I have no idea how qualified he is, but the fact that the last coach he hired has been in the job as long as he has tells me he has a decent idea of what he's doing.

 

Accorsi is very qualified. He's been a longtime GM and successful and is still involved with the league.

 

The truth of the matter is there is no purpose for a football decision making guy above the GM. Such a guy can only meddle in the GMs decisions on draft day. Once a guy like Ernie makes his recommendations, and, assuming they are hired, there would be no role for such a man going forward. The key is finding the right GM/coach combo.

I'd rather see someone who is capable of navigating the changes that will come along the way. Just because Accorsi makes a recommendation, doesn't mean the coaching or GM hire may not flop. It'd be good to know the guy at top has a clear organizational structure and know how to keep it chugging along when the next big decision has to be made. It doesn't have to be a strict football guy, but I see little to indicate Phillips has that vision and ability to take the wheel post-Accorsi.

[mul21]

I'd rather whoever is consulting that they have had a prominent role in football within the last 8 years.

 

Maybe you should listen to the press conference before spouting off nonsense. Accorsi is part of an NFL committee that manages/compiles the pool of candidates for GM and coaching jobs.

[Banedon]

Accorsi helped the Panthers hire their current GM.

[Banedon]

Ted Phillips is just quoting Peanut.

[bukie]

Ted Phillips is just quoting Peanut.

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[UK1679666180]

I'd rather whoever is consulting that they have had a prominent role in football within the last 8 years.

 

Maybe you should listen to the press conference before spouting off nonsense. Accorsi is part of an NFL committee that manages/compiles the pool of candidates for GM and coaching jobs.

 

He's part of it but only Accorsi has been hired as a consultant specifically by the Bears. That's great he's in that role but I want a further separation.

 

I want that person to have a long term vision.

 

Accorsi has no long term vision with long term accountability.

[UK1679666180]

It's not too difficult to grasp that I want someone between Phillips and the GM. Accorsi doesn't fill that void in my opinion.

[Banedon]

I think that structure change can/will still happen. Just after they make the GM hire.

[Guest]

It's not too difficult to grasp that I want someone between Phillips and the GM. Accorsi doesn't fill that void in my opinion.

 

Why does that hierarchy issue matter to you? As long as Phillips isn't actually the GM's "boss," I don't see any reason to care about whether there's a guy called the president of football operations above the GM or not.

[Guest]

It's not too difficult to grasp that I want someone between Phillips and the GM. Accorsi doesn't fill that void in my opinion.

 

Why does that hierarchy issue matter to you? As long as Phillips isn't actually the GM's "boss," I don't see any reason to care about whether there's a guy called the president of football operations above the GM or not.

Well until we hear otherwise I think he is going to be the boss...

[Guest]

It's not too difficult to grasp that I want someone between Phillips and the GM. Accorsi doesn't fill that void in my opinion.

 

Why does that hierarchy issue matter to you? As long as Phillips isn't actually the GM's "boss," I don't see any reason to care about whether there's a guy called the president of football operations above the GM or not.

Well until we hear otherwise I think he is going to be the boss...

 

Given that they've publicly indicated a willingness to slide him over to a president of business ops type title tells me that even if they don't hire two head football guys (President and GM), Phillips wouldn't have much say on football matters.

 

I mean, is he going to have a major say in hiring the person who might take such responsibilities away from him (given that they've indicated that that is still a possibility)? That would be odd.