2015 Bears Offseason (Foxy new Head Coach page 104)

[Magnetic Curses]

Let's get this started. Assuming Ted Phillips is moved to a Crane Kenney-type role (unlikely), build the entire organization down to position coaches. Edited January 18, 2015 by Stannis

[UMFan83]

Someone do the work for me and come up with an offseason scenario that gets the Bears into the playoffs next year. Or is it not worth it and we should strip down and go on a 1-3 year rebuild?

 

IMO this team needs a short rebuild. Is Cutler the QB who is going to start your next playoff game? Maybe but I don't think he's the QB you are going to build your next multi-year contender with.

 

Need work at pretty much every position group and the only positions you can say we are "set" at for the next 2 years (pretty much RB and WR) are led by players over 30 years old so not really long term building blocks. They are pretty much the opposite of the Cubs right now who have above average management, and young potential stars at every position and great payroll flexibility.

[WrigleyField 22]

A tear down would be monumentally stupid. We're not in a cap crunch. No looking roster drain. Only missing one pick (a 5th). Whoever is in charge should be thinking playoffs. The team as it stands is a coin toss away from still being in the playoff hunt and with good coaching is probably sitting in the WC drivers seat.

 

 

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[Splendid Splinter]

Someone do the work for me and come up with an offseason scenario that gets the Bears into the playoffs next year. Or is it not worth it and we should strip down and go on a 1-3 year rebuild?

 

IMO this team needs a short rebuild. Is Cutler the QB who is going to start your next playoff game? Maybe but I don't think he's the QB you are going to build your next multi-year contender with.

 

Need work at pretty much every position group and the only positions you can say we are "set" at for the next 2 years (pretty much RB and WR) are led by players over 30 years old so not really long term building blocks. They are pretty much the opposite of the Cubs right now who have above average management, and young potential stars at every position and great payroll flexibility.

 

 

Signing KJ Wright and McCourty in FA, re-sign Paea, then the 1st round pick produce at an Aaron Donald level (I believe he's up there in PFF) at whatever position along with Fuller/Sutton/Jones/Ego progressing would go a long way on the D side. On top of that, you need Marshall to bounce back, OL stays healthy again, could re-sign DLP to be the C and draft an OT in the 2nd to replace Mills on the offensive side.

 

 

That team "should" be enough to get into the playoffs. That assuming the coaches/playcalling/etc is an improvement.

[jersey cubs fan]

A tear down would be monumentally stupid. We're not in a cap crunch. No looking roster drain. Only missing one pick (a 5th). Whoever is in charge should be thinking playoffs. The team as it stands is a coin toss away from still being in the playoff hunt and with good coaching is probably sitting in the WC drivers seat.

 

 

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What magical coin is that?

[WrigleyField 22]

An OT loss in Week one most notably.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

Don't take that as support of this team. They'd still be underdogs (and three weeks is a lot in NFL terms) but it's just the way the NFL is. Unless you're the lowest of the lows and mismanaged terribly (particularly cap wise) a tear down is unnecessary.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

We said that when emery came here and three years later the team is no better. We said that when trestman was hired and here we are. A tear down isn't a real thing but the job ahead is a massive one regardless.

[Guest]

Someone do the work for me and come up with an offseason scenario that gets the Bears into the playoffs next year. Or is it not worth it and we should strip down and go on a 1-3 year rebuild?

 

IMO this team needs a short rebuild. Is Cutler the QB who is going to start your next playoff game? Maybe but I don't think he's the QB you are going to build your next multi-year contender with.

 

Need work at pretty much every position group and the only positions you can say we are "set" at for the next 2 years (pretty much RB and WR) are led by players over 30 years old so not really long term building blocks. They are pretty much the opposite of the Cubs right now who have above average management, and young potential stars at every position and great payroll flexibility.

 

cutler will be fine. the bears have some people to build around on defense, but they need speed behind them:

 

Paea

Ferguson

Sutton

Fuller

Young

Houston

Washington

 

DLine is a strength, and they have a capable young CB to build the secondary around.

[Guest]

if we go to a 3-4, I would think we could pick Collins and move him up to ILB.

[Guest]

Realistically, could we hire Ted Thompson as President/CEO of the Bears?

[WrigleyField 22]

Running every NFL team is a massive job. Every team is in a constant battle of attrition. The Bears climb is no more uphill than any other club of similar record.

 

It seems near unanimous to me that we have a dreadful coaching situation. Everyone agrees it's pathetic. If there wasn't talent on this team I'm not sure we'd even have 5 wins. Coaching alone is our biggest area for growth. The personnel part is what it's been since Emery came on board which is trying to build sustained success through a strong player evaluation and development. A job that's usually several years in the making to catch up.

 

Top 11 pick. Five other picks. Good cap space. Only one relatively important FA to retain.

 

Punting 2015 for a strip down would be dumb. Not that we might not miss anyways but purposely stripping down wouldn't get us any closer for 2016 or 2017 either.

 

 

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Edited December 13, 2014 by WrigleyField 22

[WrigleyField 22]

I'll have to break my plan down into parts. I'll assume the decision is a top down change like Sulley said with Phillips moving to a Kenney type role.

 

Part One: President of Football Operations

 

This one is going to be lazy for me. There's a highly successful GM with tons of experience who has built three franchises. Tons of SB appearances.

 

Bill Polian. President of Football Operations. He's not without warts. But he would have to be one of the safer hires. He'll hire a GM but like Theo be the main decision maker still. It will be a six year contract. One of my biggest concerns is some recent negative comments he said about analytics, but in full context I think it's okay and his record speaks for itself.

 

Next up - GM...

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

Realistically, could we hire Ted Thompson as President/CEO of the Bears?

Since it'd be a promotion yes, but not sure I see the motivation from him- seems like his gig is a strong one and he can ride out his career with Rodgers. As my post said I tagged Polian as the President. If we are hiring a Pres to oversee football we should be able to promote a highly successful current or former GM though.

[Butterscup1679666578]

im really gonna miss jay after they chase him out

[UMFan83]

I'll have to break my plan down into parts. I'll assume the decision is a top down change like Sulley said with Phillips moving to a Kenney type role.

 

Part One: President of Football Operations

 

This one is going to be lazy for me. There's a highly successful GM with tons of experience who has built three franchises. Tons of SB appearances.

 

Bill Polian. President of Football Operations. He's not without warts. But he would have to be one of the safer hires. He'll hire a GM but like Theo be the main decision maker still. It will be a six year contract. One of my biggest concerns is some recent negative comments he said about analytics, but in full context I think it's okay and his record speaks for itself.

 

Next up - GM...

 

 

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I thought Polians role in the Colts success was largely discredited. I also thought I remembered hearing he is really old school in his philosophies.

[Guest]

im really gonna miss jay after they chase him out

I don't really know how anyone can think he's been anything other than a disappointment. And that is giving him a few points for dealing with craptastic coaching. Jesus Christ on a stick he is not.

[minnesotacubsfan]

im really gonna miss jay after they chase him out

 

 

so will I. And despite CubinNY's bs, no one is jesus on a stick.

[Sammy Sofa]

The far bigger disappointment is that he's a perfectly serviceable QB that the Bears couldn't properly utilize if their fat, stupid lives depended on it.

[Outshined_One]

I kind of want Kromer and Tucker retained just for the laughs. This team has been so dysfunctional that I wouldn't put it past the Bears at this point.

[Butterscup1679666578]

The far bigger disappointment is that he's a perfectly serviceable QB that the Bears couldn't properly utilize if their fat, stupid lives depended on it.

 

basically this. he's not a disaster, but this organization is so [expletive] inept they couldn't even use the best QB they've ever had properly.

[Sammy Sofa]

The far bigger disappointment is that he's a perfectly serviceable QB that the Bears couldn't properly utilize if their fat, stupid lives depended on it.

 

basically this. he's not a disaster, but this organization is so [expletive] inept they couldn't even use the best QB they've ever had properly.

 

Exactly. Cutler hasn't been the QB we hoped he would be, but an organization not with their heads up their asses could easily find ways to consistently win with him.

[gscool89]

I'd trade Cutler to Buffalo and just start a rebuild. So pointless to strive to be average in any league.

[WrigleyField 22]

I'd trade Cutler to Buffalo and just start a rebuild. So pointless to strive to be average in any league.

Even if we trade Cutler we should be striving for playoffs. We'd just be trying to get there with a different roster build.

 

It would just be really hard for this team to punt next year on purpose and be really truly bad. They'd have to leave tons of cash on the table (for what reason I'm not sure) and/or keep the entire coaching staff in tact.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

Next up on my offseason plan, GM. In part one I hired Bill Polian as President of football operations.

 

Tom Heckert. Another former GM, now currently Dir Pro Personnel for Denver. Was GM in Philly during Andy Reid's best years, but also was not the final decision maker. Was a GM for two years in Cleveland. They didn't post a good record, but his work has laid a good foundation. Still young in GM terms (47) and he can eventually be the primary football decision maker as Polian ages. In the near term he'll probably be higher touch on smaller personnel decisions than the big ones like first round picks.

 

 

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