Offseason Rumors & Transactions Thread

[Rob]

Guys, what would it take to acquire Heyward?

 

In theory, something like Alcantara+ a couple interesting guys should be enough. Heyward is a great player, but it's his walk year and the Braves have already telegraphed that they'll likely let him or Upton (or both) leave, which hurts their leverage.

 

In practice, the Braves are still ostensibly contenders for a WC spot, and if they're out of it at the deadline Heyward may fetch a similar return at that point anyways. So I don't see it happening unless we overpay, which we'd be silly to do since we can probably sign him next offseason if we really want him.

[Guest]

I wonder if he would benefit from a move closer to the plate. Rizzo made that adjustment after pitchers spent much of 2013 pitching him outside.

[Clem Fandango]

I wonder if he would benefit from a move closer to the plate. Rizzo made that adjustment after pitchers spent much of 2013 pitching him outside.

 

Doesn't Heyward kind of have a stride in his swing that moves him toward the plate?

[imb]

Stanton working on a 12 year 300 mil contract according to someone on twitter that i couldnt be bothered by

[Janelle-Alexis]

Stanton working on a 12 year 300 mil contract according to someone on twitter that i couldnt be bothered by

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/marlins-giancarlo-stanton-discussing-record-breaking-300-million-deal-111314

[Clem Fandango]

Stanton working on a 12 year 300 mil contract according to someone on twitter that i couldnt be bothered by

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/marlins-giancarlo-stanton-discussing-record-breaking-300-million-deal-111314

 

That would wreck that franchise from being able to do anything productive unless they just decide to open up the pocketbook and start being a $150 million payroll team.

 

Stanton probably knows better, and has said as much. I believe he's been quoted as saying "3 months doesn't change 3 years" or something in regards to the progress they've made this season when someone asked if he was interested in signing an extension. He's witnessed first hand them opening up the bank only to shut it immediately. The Marlins are cheap, and if they're paying one man $30 million a year, that will likely be half their payroll.

 

Ideally it should come down to whether or not he wants to be on a club that's built for success, because he knows he'll get a monster contract from someone eventually, but that's a [expletive] load of money to turn away. I hope he knows if he accepts it he might as well accept that he'll spend the majority of that contract not winning baseball games. They might have some success coming up with their young players and what not, but the Marlins won't be able to retain them because Stanton is going to be costing them so much money in the first place. It's just going to be a revolving door of talent that never stays consistent.

 

Unless they decide "Hey we want to be a real team now" and open up the bank and leave it open. I'm sure that's what they're telling him to convince him to sign, and maybe they're honest this time, but history provides enough proof that that isn't true and his instinct is probably calling [expletive] on that.

[Pushfrog98]

Hahahaha...

http://dailyleak.org/2014/11/cubs-acquire-alex-rodriguez-from-yankees/

 

Troll site owners should be shot.

[imb]

signing a 300m contract just means he'll be in new york or LA by 2017

[rawaction]

Yeah Heyward would be great. Can play a passable CF or move Soler to LF where I think the gloves would both be good-to-great. Lefty bat.

 

Castro

Heyward

Soler

Rizzo

Bryant

Martin

Baez/Alcantara whoever isn't traded for him.

Another OF

[chopsx9]

I wonder if he would benefit from a move closer to the plate. Rizzo made that adjustment after pitchers spent much of 2013 pitching him outside.

 

I was watching a Braves game on TV last year - don't remeber the channel or the announcers - but one of the guys was saying Heyward would never tap into his full power potential with his stance at the plate. Iirc it was something about him crouching down or sitting back in his stance. I remember him being critical of a big guy making him self smaller at the plate and thus sapping his power. Obviously I'm not remembering it particularly well and while not knowing enough about such things to know how valid an argument it is/was thought it was an interesting view.

[jumbo]

http://nypost.com/2014/11/11/dodgers-mean-business-about-trading-an-outfielder/

 

Ethier has three years at $56 million left, Crawford three years at $62.25 million and Kemp five years at $107 million.

Dodgers officials have let teams know they are willing to kick in cash or take a problematic contract back to facilitate a trade. For example, the Dodgers are looking for a veteran back-end-of-the-rotation piece, so they could counteract some of the cash by trading Ethier or Crawford to the White Sox for John Danks (owed $28.5 million the next two years) or to the Orioles for Ubaldo Jimenez (owed $37.75 million over the next three years).

 

 

Edwin Jackson, get the [expletive] outta here

[rawaction]

http://nypost.com/2014/11/11/dodgers-mean-business-about-trading-an-outfielder/

 

Ethier has three years at $56 million left, Crawford three years at $62.25 million and Kemp five years at $107 million.

Dodgers officials have let teams know they are willing to kick in cash or take a problematic contract back to facilitate a trade. For example, the Dodgers are looking for a veteran back-end-of-the-rotation piece, so they could counteract some of the cash by trading Ethier or Crawford to the White Sox for John Danks (owed $28.5 million the next two years) or to the Orioles for Ubaldo Jimenez (owed $37.75 million over the next three years).

 

 

Edwin Jackson, get the [expletive] outta here

 

I'd take Ethier and money for Jackson. I think it may take more to get Crawford, who makes more, isn't as good, and is older. Kemp would definitely take more to get.

[XZero771679666304]

http://nypost.com/2014/11/11/dodgers-mean-business-about-trading-an-outfielder/

 

Ethier has three years at $56 million left, Crawford three years at $62.25 million and Kemp five years at $107 million.

Dodgers officials have let teams know they are willing to kick in cash or take a problematic contract back to facilitate a trade. For example, the Dodgers are looking for a veteran back-end-of-the-rotation piece, so they could counteract some of the cash by trading Ethier or Crawford to the White Sox for John Danks (owed $28.5 million the next two years) or to the Orioles for Ubaldo Jimenez (owed $37.75 million over the next three years).

 

 

Edwin Jackson, get the [expletive] outta here

 

I'd take Ethier and money for Jackson. I think it may take more to get Crawford, who makes more, isn't as good, and is older. Kemp would definitely take more to get.

 

After last season, I'm not entirely convinced Ethier is any better than Crawford.

[rawaction]

http://nypost.com/2014/11/11/dodgers-mean-business-about-trading-an-outfielder/

 

Ethier has three years at $56 million left, Crawford three years at $62.25 million and Kemp five years at $107 million.

Dodgers officials have let teams know they are willing to kick in cash or take a problematic contract back to facilitate a trade. For example, the Dodgers are looking for a veteran back-end-of-the-rotation piece, so they could counteract some of the cash by trading Ethier or Crawford to the White Sox for John Danks (owed $28.5 million the next two years) or to the Orioles for Ubaldo Jimenez (owed $37.75 million over the next three years).

 

 

Edwin Jackson, get the [expletive] outta here

 

I'd take Ethier and money for Jackson. I think it may take more to get Crawford, who makes more, isn't as good, and is older. Kemp would definitely take more to get.

 

After last season, I'm not entirely convinced Ethier is any better than Crawford.

 

Eh. I don't know. I think last year was his first time not being out there everyday. I think he had the biggest adjustment to make in the OF rotation. At the very least, he's more likely to be healthy than Crawford. I also think he could see a boost in his power again by being in Wrigley 81 games.

[sneakypower]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/crowdsourced-results-dead-money-of-select-trade-targets/

 

addresses how much dead money are in all four players' remaining commitments

 

if we trade Jackson for an LA OF, we should be trying to acquire a pretty decent prospect in return, also

[SouthSideRyan]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/crowdsourced-results-dead-money-of-select-trade-targets/

 

addresses how much dead money are in all four players' remaining commitments

 

if we trade Jackson for an LA OF, we should be trying to acquire a pretty decent prospect in return, also

 

2/12 for Jaxon seems insane.

[Guest]

signing a 300m contract just means he'll be in new york or LA by 2017

That was my very first thought when I saw the headline. Loria will dump that contract, there is no doubt.

[Guest]

signing a 300m contract just means he'll be in new york or LA by 2017

That was my very first thought when I saw the headline. Loria will dump that contract, there is no doubt.

 

9:36am: Heyman reports that the two sides are very serious about getting a deal done, suggesting that it could end up being for a whopping 13 years. The two sides are said to be on the same page regarding money, Heyman writes, but two non-monetary issues still need to be worked out: a no-trade clause and a potential opt-out clause midway through the deal. One source characterized the negotiations as being on the 10-yard line.

[ConstableRabbit]

Stanton working on a 12 year 300 mil contract according to someone on twitter that i couldnt be bothered by

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/marlins-giancarlo-stanton-discussing-record-breaking-300-million-deal-111314

 

That would wreck that franchise from being able to do anything productive unless they just decide to open up the pocketbook and start being a $150 million payroll team.

 

Stanton probably knows better, and has said as much. I believe he's been quoted as saying "3 months doesn't change 3 years" or something in regards to the progress they've made this season when someone asked if he was interested in signing an extension. He's witnessed first hand them opening up the bank only to shut it immediately. The Marlins are cheap, and if they're paying one man $30 million a year, that will likely be half their payroll.

 

Ideally it should come down to whether or not he wants to be on a club that's built for success, because he knows he'll get a monster contract from someone eventually, but that's a [expletive] load of money to turn away. I hope he knows if he accepts it he might as well accept that he'll spend the majority of that contract not winning baseball games. They might have some success coming up with their young players and what not, but the Marlins won't be able to retain them because Stanton is going to be costing them so much money in the first place. It's just going to be a revolving door of talent that never stays consistent.

 

Unless they decide "Hey we want to be a real team now" and open up the bank and leave it open. I'm sure that's what they're telling him to convince him to sign, and maybe they're honest this time, but history provides enough proof that that isn't true and his instinct is probably calling [expletive] on that.

If he turns down 300 million guaranteed [expletive] dollars he's a moron.

[tfarks]

He wouldn't turn down that money in any universe. He has enough leverage to get his opt-out and NTC too. If Loria is one of those old misers with a smoking hot 20 year old GF he may as well negotiate that in too just to really top it all off.

[MWV]

Wittenmeyer claims cubs look like "even stronger favorites" to sign Martin. Doesn't offer an update Re: the imminent Zimmerman trade.

[Guest]

Wittenmeyer claims cubs look like "even stronger favorites" to sign Martin. Doesn't offer an update Re: the imminent Zimmerman trade.

Yeah, that's a couple days old.

 

Bystro did just post at PSD that the Cubs will probably be debuting a new catcher in response to some comments about opening night.

[tfarks]

The shamalyn is that it'll be Yadi

[MWV]

Yeah, that's a couple days old.

Oops. Not sure how I failed to notice that.

[Guest]

Buster Olney questions (ESPN Insider required) whether the Cubs should pay the expected asking price for Lester or if they would be better of driving up the contract for Boston in order to remove a suitor from next year's market. According to Olney, "Unless the Cubs love Lester far and away more than other pitchers, it would make no sense for them to pay the current retail price for the left-hander."

 

This is some of the dumbest [expletive] I've ever read.