Week 8: Bears (3-4) @ Patriots (5-2) Noon Fox/780

[jersey cubs fan]

his children better be really sick, hopefully his wife too, and maybe mom.

[Banedon]

his children better be really sick, hopefully his wife too, and maybe mom.

 

We warned them about not vaccinating! And now Tom Waddle has to pay the price.

[Guest]

his children better be really sick, hopefully his wife too, and maybe mom.

 

They might die without their vaccinations.

 

Of course that would make it acceptable for him to miss a radio show.

[apete6]

his children better be really sick, hopefully his wife too, and maybe mom.

 

If you think this isn't bitching out, I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason why this guy hasn't been more successful and this is part of it. I tried to look past it and have been a Cutler fanboy for years blaming the offensive line, poor receivers, incompetent offensive coaching, but when stuff starts to go bad, you finally start to see stuff that others (national media, former teammates, anonymous sources) have seen before. It really stinks seeing one of your favorite Bears of all time become "who they thought he was".

 

I really hope there's a good reason for him not to show up, and even if there's not, I'm sure the Bears spin control will come up with something (fake injury treatment or something) to make him look good. And, this year's performance doesn't mean the guy can't turn it around and he still has the talent to be a top 10 or Super Bowl winning QB, but he's in his 10th year and it's hard to see that happening, which sucks.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If you think this isn't bitching out, I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason why this guy hasn't been more successful and this is part of it.

 

 

Football games are not personality contests. It has nothing to do with whatever lack of success you think the guy has.

[UMFan83]

I think its *interesting* that Jay cancelled his radio appearance, but in no way damning.

 

He has "manned up" and appeared on the show after worse games that yesterday, and Waddle/Silvy grilled him about mistakes, bad decisions, and even him shoving Webb on the sidelines during a game and he has taken it all.

[Banedon]

his children better be really sick, hopefully his wife too, and maybe mom.

 

If you think this isn't bitching out, I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason why this guy hasn't been more successful and this is part of it. I tried to look past it and have been a Cutler fanboy for years blaming the offensive line, poor receivers, incompetent offensive coaching, but when stuff starts to go bad, you finally start to see stuff that others (national media, former teammates, anonymous sources) have seen before. It really stinks seeing one of your favorite Bears of all time become "who they thought he was".

 

I really hope there's a good reason for him not to show up, and even if there's not, I'm sure the Bears spin control will come up with something (fake injury treatment or something) to make him look good. And, this year's performance doesn't mean the guy can't turn it around and he still has the talent to be a top 10 or Super Bowl winning QB, but he's in his 10th year and it's hard to see that happening, which sucks.

 

He hasn't been a success because he's not gonna be on the radio?

[jersey cubs fan]

his children better be really sick, hopefully his wife too, and maybe mom.

 

If you think this isn't bitching out, I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason why this guy hasn't been more successful and this is part of it. I tried to look past it and have been a Cutler fanboy for years blaming the offensive line, poor receivers, incompetent offensive coaching, but when stuff starts to go bad, you finally start to see stuff that others (national media, former teammates, anonymous sources) have seen before. It really stinks seeing one of your favorite Bears of all time become "who they thought he was".

 

I really hope there's a good reason for him not to show up, and even if there's not, I'm sure the Bears spin control will come up with something (fake injury treatment or something) to make him look good. And, this year's performance doesn't mean the guy can't turn it around and he still has the talent to be a top 10 or Super Bowl winning QB, but he's in his 10th year and it's hard to see that happening, which sucks.

 

Not a fan of the underlying misogyny of the phrase "bitching out". But I will just say it's a fairly common occurrence for guys with these local media relationships to cancel them for reasons other than a dying child and I am pretty sure the only people who care about that are the hosts themselves and psychopaths.

[Banedon]

It's probably more likely that he doesn't wanna answer questions about Brandon than that he doesn't wanna answer questions about himself. He doesn't care what anyone says about him.

[jersey cubs fan]

It's probably more likely that he doesn't wanna answer questions about Brandon than that he doesn't wanna answer questions about himself. He doesn't care what anyone says about him.

 

If I had to guess, this cancellation is more about looking like HE IS FOCUSED SOLELY ON THE NEXT GAME than about avoiding questions.

[apete6]

his children better be really sick, hopefully his wife too, and maybe mom.

 

If you think this isn't bitching out, I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason why this guy hasn't been more successful and this is part of it. I tried to look past it and have been a Cutler fanboy for years blaming the offensive line, poor receivers, incompetent offensive coaching, but when stuff starts to go bad, you finally start to see stuff that others (national media, former teammates, anonymous sources) have seen before. It really stinks seeing one of your favorite Bears of all time become "who they thought he was".

 

I really hope there's a good reason for him not to show up, and even if there's not, I'm sure the Bears spin control will come up with something (fake injury treatment or something) to make him look good. And, this year's performance doesn't mean the guy can't turn it around and he still has the talent to be a top 10 or Super Bowl winning QB, but he's in his 10th year and it's hard to see that happening, which sucks.

 

Not a fan of the underlying misogyny of the phrase "bitching out". But I will just say it's a fairly common occurrence for guys with these local media relationships to cancel them for reasons other than a dying child and I am pretty sure the only people who care about that are the hosts themselves and psychopaths.

 

If by psychopaths, you mean front office executives, that's fine. This [expletive] matters, if only a little bit and to pretend it doesn't is wrong. On it's own, this is pretty damn insignificant, but there's a history of people that bring up behind the scenes stuff just like this (not being prepared enough, fighting with teammates, etc...). The "don't caaaaaaare" stuff is funny when it's about Cutler blowing off a fan at a bar, it's a bit more serious when it's a contractual commitment and/or behind the scenes locker room stuff with teammates.

 

Cutler getting hammered by the media for sitting out the 2nd half of the NFC Title Game was plain wrong, dumb, and, quite frankly mean spirited by everyone (media, players on other teams, etc...). But you see [expletive] like this and this is why he never got the benefit of the doubt from anyone on that situation, despite Cutler clearly being injured and right not to play.

 

It all matters. You can't just pick the good or bad things about someone and make a judgement, you have to look at the whole picture and right now, with the play on the field, the contract he has, and the locker room/off the field stuff, it's easy to see why people outside of Chicago don't like this guy and why he hasn't lived up to his potential (despite having an above average career).

[jersey cubs fan]

it's a [expletive] sports talk radio show. nothing on a sports talk radio show matters

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't care whether people like him or not. That has nothing to do with his football playing, which is what he is to me. A football player.

 

The "living up to his potential" stuff is stupid. Assuming you mean "he's not as good overall as his arm strength," the reason is that he doesn't make good decisions as often as an elite QB needs to do. And the ability to instantaneously read the field and make a decision is just as much an inherent ability as arm strength.

 

People have this weird, meatbally reaction to guys who are obviously talented in one area and deficient in a less visible but just as important natural ability.

[WrigleyField 22]

It's probably more likely that he doesn't wanna answer questions about Brandon than that he doesn't wanna answer questions about himself. He doesn't care what anyone says about him.

 

If I had to guess, this cancellation is more about looking like HE IS FOCUSED SOLELY ON THE NEXT GAME than about avoiding questions.

Eh a two hour radio show or whatever wouldn't affect his game prep unless it was a short week. The BM theory would be stronger, but either way it doesn't matter. Or maybe Trestman asked him to cancel. Still, doesn't matter.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

It's probably more likely that he doesn't wanna answer questions about Brandon than that he doesn't wanna answer questions about himself. He doesn't care what anyone says about him.

 

If I had to guess, this cancellation is more about looking like HE IS FOCUSED SOLELY ON THE NEXT GAME than about avoiding questions.

Eh a two hour radio show or whatever wouldn't affect his game prep unless it was a short week. The BM theory would be stronger, but either way it doesn't matter. Or maybe Trestman asked him to cancel. Still, doesn't matter.

 

I'm talking about perception not the actual effect.

[WrigleyField 22]

It's probably more likely that he doesn't wanna answer questions about Brandon than that he doesn't wanna answer questions about himself. He doesn't care what anyone says about him.

 

If I had to guess, this cancellation is more about looking like HE IS FOCUSED SOLELY ON THE NEXT GAME than about avoiding questions.

Eh a two hour radio show or whatever wouldn't affect his game prep unless it was a short week. The BM theory would be stronger, but either way it doesn't matter. Or maybe Trestman asked him to cancel. Still, doesn't matter.

 

I'm talking about perception not the actual effect.

Oh yea, then that's a great way to spin the perception if it was possible to change the meatbally view.

 

 

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[cubbyvirus00]

This team's dead in the water for a playoff berth. 8-8 or maaaaybe even 9-7 is still doable with the weak second-half schedule.

 

No NFL quality linebackers. Safeties still terrible. Defensive line and even CBs inconsistent. Exploitable holes in the offensive line. Wide receivers still dinged up. No backup RB.

 

And honestly, I think Cutler's starting to lose it a bit. I stand by my assessment from earlier in the season: the number of missed throws per game (not bad decisions, but balls not going where he meant for them to go) is starting to creep up this year.

 

Plus brutal ST coaching and mediocre rest-of-staff coaching.

 

You probably need 10-6 to get to the Wild Card this year (although the tiebreaker with SF may come in handy). In order to do that, you have to sweep the "easy" games and also go 3-2 in the hard ones (@NE, @GB, @DET, DAL, DET).

 

It sucks to be locked in to Cutler for another 2 seasons. I think this team is teetering on the brink of 'full rebuild' mode. Just too many holes and too many 30+ year olds.

 

 

EDIT: I just heard that Jay is the highest paid NFL player this year? LOL

[UMFan83]

This team's dead in the water for a playoff berth. 8-8 or maaaaybe even 9-7 is still doable with the weak second-half schedule.

 

No NFL quality linebackers. Safeties still terrible. Defensive line and even CBs inconsistent. Exploitable holes in the offensive line. Wide receivers still dinged up. No backup RB.

 

And honestly, I think Cutler's starting to lose it a bit. I stand by my assessment from earlier in the season: the number of missed throws per game (not bad decisions, but balls not going where he meant for them to go) is starting to creep up this year.

 

Plus brutal ST coaching and mediocre rest-of-staff coaching.

 

You probably need 10-6 to get to the Wild Card this year (although the tiebreaker with SF may come in handy). In order to do that, you have to sweep the "easy" games and also go 3-2 in the hard ones (@NE, @GB, @DET, DAL, DET).

 

It sucks to be locked in to Cutler for another 2 seasons. I think this team is teetering on the brink of 'full rebuild' mode. Just too many holes and too many 30+ year olds.

 

I go between agreeing with this and not agreeing with it. I don't think you ever need to rebuild in the NFL if you have a base of talent, stability at QB and at least an average drafting GM. I guess up for debate is how many of those the Bears have.

[apete6]

This team's dead in the water for a playoff berth. 8-8 or maaaaybe even 9-7 is still doable with the weak second-half schedule.

 

No NFL quality linebackers. Safeties still terrible. Defensive line and even CBs inconsistent. Exploitable holes in the offensive line. Wide receivers still dinged up. No backup RB.

 

And honestly, I think Cutler's starting to lose it a bit. I stand by my assessment from earlier in the season: the number of missed throws per game (not bad decisions, but balls not going where he meant for them to go) is starting to creep up this year.

 

Plus brutal ST coaching and mediocre rest-of-staff coaching.

 

You probably need 10-6 to get to the Wild Card this year (although the tiebreaker with SF may come in handy). In order to do that, you have to sweep the "easy" games and also go 3-2 in the hard ones (@NE, @GB, @DET, DAL, DET).

 

It sucks to be locked in to Cutler for another 2 seasons. I think this team is teetering on the brink of 'full rebuild' mode. Just too many holes and too many 30+ year olds.

 

Going to be odd coming from me who just bashed Cutler and am crestfallen over not loving him anymore, but couldn't they trade him if they really wanted to? Even if they got nothing back, they could theoretically get out of the contract, couldn't they? Wouldn't the Rams take him instead of drafting someone in the first round next year?

[jersey cubs fan]

This team's dead in the water for a playoff berth. 8-8 or maaaaybe even 9-7 is still doable with the weak second-half schedule.

 

No NFL quality linebackers. Safeties still terrible. Defensive line and even CBs inconsistent. Exploitable holes in the offensive line. Wide receivers still dinged up. No backup RB.

 

And honestly, I think Cutler's starting to lose it a bit. I stand by my assessment from earlier in the season: the number of missed throws per game (not bad decisions, but balls not going where he meant for them to go) is starting to creep up this year.

 

Plus brutal ST coaching and mediocre rest-of-staff coaching.

 

You probably need 10-6 to get to the Wild Card this year (although the tiebreaker with SF may come in handy). In order to do that, you have to sweep the "easy" games and also go 3-2 in the hard ones (@NE, @GB, @DET, DAL, DET).

 

It sucks to be locked in to Cutler for another 2 seasons. I think this team is teetering on the brink of 'full rebuild' mode. Just too many holes and too many 30+ year olds.

 

I go between agreeing with this and not agreeing with it. I don't think you ever need to rebuild in the NFL if you have a base of talent, stability at QB and at least an average drafting GM. I guess up for debate is how many of those the Bears have.

 

An NFL rebuild is essentially getting a new GM and giving him a year or 2 to make the team much better.

[cubbyvirus00]

This team's dead in the water for a playoff berth. 8-8 or maaaaybe even 9-7 is still doable with the weak second-half schedule.

 

No NFL quality linebackers. Safeties still terrible. Defensive line and even CBs inconsistent. Exploitable holes in the offensive line. Wide receivers still dinged up. No backup RB.

 

And honestly, I think Cutler's starting to lose it a bit. I stand by my assessment from earlier in the season: the number of missed throws per game (not bad decisions, but balls not going where he meant for them to go) is starting to creep up this year.

 

Plus brutal ST coaching and mediocre rest-of-staff coaching.

 

You probably need 10-6 to get to the Wild Card this year (although the tiebreaker with SF may come in handy). In order to do that, you have to sweep the "easy" games and also go 3-2 in the hard ones (@NE, @GB, @DET, DAL, DET).

 

It sucks to be locked in to Cutler for another 2 seasons. I think this team is teetering on the brink of 'full rebuild' mode. Just too many holes and too many 30+ year olds.

 

I go between agreeing with this and not agreeing with it. I don't think you ever need to rebuild in the NFL if you have a base of talent, stability at QB and at least an average drafting GM. I guess up for debate is how many of those the Bears have.

 

An NFL rebuild is essentially getting a new GM and giving him a year or 2 to make the team much better.

 

I was kinda referring to Trestman being canned eventually and having to reboot with a new coach and likely a new QB. Who's going to want to take on the chance to coach a 33/34 year old Cutler who's proven to be somewhat of a coach killer?

[JonJayCutler]

Haha, every week now a Cutler supporter here turns his back.

 

Truth be told I'll probably have faith in the guy until the day he hangs up the helmet, not because I'm close-minded or trying to prove a point, but because I, with all my being, believe in him as a QB. Seen him do too many great things to lose hope that he could be all I want him to be (lead the Bears to a Super Bowl, not be an MVP or even elite). Unless he wakes up one day completely devoid of all his talent, or at the very least shows an indisputable regression in level of play, it'll likely remain that way. Always with the relentless desire to focus/obsess over the QB. Especially here in Chicago.

 

If that makes me a meatball then [expletive] it.

[WrigleyField 22]

Cutler won't have any effect on rebuilding if that's the requirement. He has a contract that's relatively easy to walk away from after a few years. Realistically a new coach would willingly work with him though, even if we more seriously went to groom his predecessor. Rebuilds should also be quick especially with our pieces in place.

 

 

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[rawaction]

Haha, every week now a Cutler supporter here turns his back.

 

Truth be told I'll probably have faith in the guy until the day he hangs up the helmet, not because I'm close-minded or trying to prove a point, but because I, with all my being, believe in him as a QB. Seen him do too many great things to lose hope that he could be all I want him to be (lead the Bears to a Super Bowl, not be an MVP or even elite). Unless he wakes up one day completely devoid of all his talent, or at the very least shows an indisputable regression in level of play, it'll likely remain that way. Always with the relentless desire to focus/obsess over the QB. Especially here in Chicago.

 

If that makes me a meatball then [expletive] it.

 

This. 100% This.

[rawaction]

Cutler won't have any effect on rebuilding if that's the requirement. He has a contract that's relatively easy to walk away from after a few years. Realistically a new coach would willingly work with him though, even if we more seriously went to groom his predecessor. Rebuilds should also be quick especially with our pieces in place.

 

 

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The worst thing possible is to have a veteran laden team and suck. The Bears do have some building blocks in place that are young or young enough (Fuller, maybe Conte, drafted DTs, Young, Houston, Jeffery, Long, maybe Mills). But they have very important players that are vets like Cutler, Forte, Marshall, Allen, Jennings who all have contracts (save for Allen) that aren't easy to get rid of if you suck and have to rebuild. Hell, Marshall, Cutler and Jennings all signed new long-term deals in the last 6 months.