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Can Goodell be suspended?

 

He needs to step down. It's a [expletive] shame TMZ is more legit than ESPN when it comes to reporting this. The NFL and ESPN are going to do their best to sweep this under the rug quickly. And unfortunately, they'll probably succeed.

 

 

Question for Gooney: I'd ask that question in the exact opposite way? Why WOULDN'T the casino give the NFL that tape?

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Can Goodell be suspended?

 

He needs to step down. It's a [expletive] shame TMZ is more legit than ESPN when it comes to reporting this. The NFL and ESPN are going to do their best to sweep this under the rug quickly. And unfortunately, they'll probably succeed.

 

 

Question for Gooney: I'd ask that question in the exact opposite way? Why WOULDN'T the casino give the NFL that tape?

 

That's not the opposite way, but a completely different question. I'm not asking why they would or would not, but rather why they would be obligated to respond to a request from a completely unrelated private institution? That's a matter for the police. The police had and have the tapes and the NFL would have and should have gone through them if they wanted to see them. They probably didn't want to see them, or at least, they didn't want actual NFL officials seeing them. So they had some private security types take a look and report back and can now still say that NFL personnel did not see the tapes.

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I literally need Larry Fitzgerald to catch one freaking pass to win my Week 1 FFL game. It isn't going to happen, is it? ONLY MY TEAMS!

 

Had Rueben Randle and Larry Fitzgerald and needed 4.0 points to win, got only 3.8. Lost in a second league by .26 points. I'm so thrilled football is back *NCAMFT*

 

LOL I lost by .28 pt. Oh well... I knew it was coming because I won a game last year by 0.03 pt.

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Can Goodell be suspended?

 

He needs to step down. It's a [expletive] shame TMZ is more legit than ESPN when it comes to reporting this. The NFL and ESPN are going to do their best to sweep this under the rug quickly. And unfortunately, they'll probably succeed.

 

 

Question for Gooney: I'd ask that question in the exact opposite way? Why WOULDN'T the casino give the NFL that tape?

 

That's not the opposite way, but a completely different question. I'm not asking why they would or would not, but rather why they would be obligated to respond to a request from a completely unrelated private institution? That's a matter for the police. The police had and have the tapes and the NFL would have and should have gone through them if they wanted to see them. They probably didn't want to see them, or at least, they didn't want actual NFL officials seeing them. So they had some private security types take a look and report back and can now still say that NFL personnel did not see the tapes.

 

Almost as bad to operate that way -- it's willful ignorance. Manufactured deniability. I guess that's the way Goodell plays things now.

 

It's time for him to resign.

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I can't stop laughing at this:

 

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Yeah, that was the highlight for me.

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Ugh. The people out there who are automatically calling her a golddigger are maddening. Their logic is that no woman would defend her man like that unless she was there for his money, nevermind Battered Woman Syndrome or trying to keep her family together. No evidence whatsoever, but simply a means to devalue here and and indirect way of saying she was asking for it.

My question is, if she is a golddigger, why wouldn't she be running AWAY from the guy who just lost his job, his reputation and possibly his career? She undoubtedly would still receive child support and alimony. [expletive] morons, all of them.

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Even if she is a "golddigger," so what? Moron men's rights-types keep dropping that like it somehow justifies or excuses her being hit. I don't care if she has a shirt that says "I am only after Ray Rice's money."
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Even if she is a "golddigger," so what? Moron men's rights-types keep dropping that like it somehow justifies or excuses her being hit. I don't care if she has a shirt that says "I am only after Ray Rice's money."

EXACTLY, and I bring that up. And to those making it an issue, if they are not saying she somehow deserved it then what is the rationale for even bringing it up? What is the point exactly?

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Anti-women garbage. They're the same types that will say [expletive] like, "I'm against hitting women, but if you want equal rights then it's only fair I can defend myself if a woman hits me."
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Anti-women garbage. They're the same types that will say [expletive] like, "I'm against hitting women, but if you want equal rights then it's only fair I can defend myself if a woman hits me."

 

Someone on Twitter cited the "stand your ground" law as a defense for Rice yesterday.

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Anti-women garbage. They're the same types that will say [expletive] like, "I'm against hitting women, but if you want equal rights then it's only fair I can defend myself if a woman hits me."

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Anti-women garbage. They're the same types that will say [expletive] like, "I'm against hitting women, but if you want equal rights then it's only fair I can defend myself if a woman hits me."

 

Someone on Twitter cited the "stand your ground" law as a defense for Rice yesterday.

I'd bet money this person also cites the 1st Amendment whenever someone says something offensive and gets reprimanded.

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The state of NJ said that the video was part of an ongoing grand jury investigation and was not made available. The casino said the NFL did not ask for it.

 

 

ITS ALL ABOUT SPORTS GAMBLING LEGALIZATION FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!

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The most ridiculous part is, and while I agree that the NFL has handled this terribly and everybody in the NFL league office and the ownership is all a bunch of horrible pricks, the NFL is not in place to punish criminals. Its not the NFLs job to determine if domestic abuse is worse than recreational drug use. Goodell, im certain, has never been trained to do this. There is a system in place thats the ultimate arbiter and its the law. The police and the district attorneys office without a shred of doubt saw the tape. Ray Rice was not punished, at all, by the organization thats sole purpose is to punish criminals for criminal acts. Even the NFLs two game suspension was the only punishment Ray Rice received. Court ordered counseling is not a punishment, its a conduit for self improvement. Ray Rice got no punishment.

 

The pitchforks are all out on Goodell and the NFL, but I honestly havent seen a single thing about the fact Ray Rice received absolutely zero punishment from the law.

 

And everybody is stupid. I hate Goodell too but hes just a representative of the league. He clearly does the bidding of the owners.

 

Also i am sure that this will cause the end of the Redskins name.

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The most ridiculous part is, and while I agree that the NFL has handled this terribly and everybody in the NFL league office and the ownership is all a bunch of horrible pricks, the NFL is not in place to punish criminals. Its not the NFLs job to determine if domestic abuse is worse than recreational drug use. Goodell, im certain, has never been trained to do this. There is a system in place thats the ultimate arbiter and its the law. The police and the district attorneys office without a shred of doubt saw the tape. Ray Rice was not punished, at all, by the organization thats sole purpose is to punish criminals for criminal acts. Even the NFLs two game suspension was the only punishment Ray Rice received. Court ordered counseling is not a punishment, its a conduit for self improvement. Ray Rice got no punishment.

 

The pitchforks are all out on Goodell and the NFL, but I honestly havent seen a single thing about the fact Ray Rice received absolutely zero punishment from the law.

 

The most ridiculous part is that you wrote this.

 

 

Also, lots of people have written about how absurd it is that he got away with it, but that this is what happens when battered women ultimately take one for the team.

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The most ridiculous part is, and while I agree that the NFL has handled this terribly and everybody in the NFL league office and the ownership is all a bunch of horrible pricks, the NFL is not in place to punish criminals. Its not the NFLs job to determine if domestic abuse is worse than recreational drug use. Goodell, im certain, has never been trained to do this. There is a system in place thats the ultimate arbiter and its the law. The police and the district attorneys office without a shred of doubt saw the tape. Ray Rice was not punished, at all, by the organization thats sole purpose is to punish criminals for criminal acts. Even the NFLs two game suspension was the only punishment Ray Rice received. Court ordered counseling is not a punishment, its a conduit for self improvement. Ray Rice got no punishment.

 

The pitchforks are all out on Goodell and the NFL, but I honestly havent seen a single thing about the fact Ray Rice received absolutely zero punishment from the law.

 

And everybody is stupid. I hate Goodell too but hes just a representative of the league. He clearly does the bidding of the owners.

 

Also i am sure that this will cause the end of the Redskins name.

 

It's not an either/or condemnation; the NFL has laid out much more harsh penalties for lesser offenses or for things that aren't even technically illegal. Regardless of what local authorities did or did not do, basic morality dictated that the NFL should have kicked Rice out ASAP.

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