College Football - Week 2 (Sept. 6)

[NOLA]

Texas getting blown out by BYU in Austin is unacceptable. They have plenty of talent on that field. It's simply terrible coaching. It's impossible for me to believe that strong will last. How can you let that happen at home?

 

Texas and Michigans football programs are total embarrassments to the legacies of their programs. Hoke and Strong were both step down hires. Texas should have hired Petrino. Hoke should have already been fired. Texas is gonna suck until they get the next Nick Saban to come in at 10 mil per year.

So one game in and Strong has been determined to be a terrible coach?

Also, as someone who loved Petrino when he was at Arkansas, just no. Lost in the [expletive] show of the motorcycle wreck was that Petrino was a terrible recruiter (see the last 2 years of Hog football) and that he had no desire to put any focus on his defense. Pass.

[Ryne Ween]

How do you lose to BYU at home by 40? Texas has to have superior talent. Strong came in with a ton of hard ass attitude and got pasted by BYU at home.

[dew1679666265]

How do you lose to BYU at home by 40? Texas has to have superior talent. Strong came in with a ton of hard ass attitude and got pasted by BYU at home.

 

He's coaching a team that has really dropped off in talent level the past few years and is implementing a brand new system. Texas has won 8,9,8 the past 3 years and BYU is a decent mid-major that beat down a very similar Texas team last year.

 

Especially after his success at Louisville, it's way too early to deem him a failure at Texas.

[NewUserName]

Hoke deserves to be fired on the basis of today's game. How does a healthy team go on the road against a rival and get their asses handed to them like that? ND isn't that much more talented than Mich.

 

Fire Hoke

Someone on a MLIVE account made a comparison between Hoke's tenure at Michigan and Charlie Weiss when he was at ND. Early over-achievement. Initial recruiting success. Big time hires at coordinators. Never really advanced that much. Recruiting fell off after a couple of yrs. Hammered in the ND/Mich game

 

I have come off the ledge a little over MSU's collapse last night against Oregon. I still think they can compete with the big boys. However, that loss combined with the B1Gs awful day may have eliminated them from getting a shot at the playoff, even if they win out.

[Old Style]

So when is Texas getting David Ash back?

Should be never. Head injuries are nothing to mess with and this is not a new issue for him.

[snoodmonger]

never mind, we're still the worst.

 

Missed the game, but was getting a ton of texts in the first half about how impressive Cozart and the team looked in general. Not so much in the second half. Is there any hope for a few more wins based on what you saw?

 

It depends on which was the real KU, the first quarter or the fourth quarter.

 

Cozart looked very sharp out of the gate. Ran the option well. Threw well on the move. Even completed a corner route in the end zone, which we haven't seen KU do for three years. The WRs looked fantastic--got open, blocked downfield, caught the ball. The RBs looked good, too. We almost had two guys over 100 each.

 

However, once SEMO took away the edge and made us start throwing longer passes, the offense stalled. I don't think we did much to adjust to their adjustments. I'm hoping it's because Reagan wanted to save the playbook for duke.

 

Other observations: The O line looked meh. The D Line looked worse. The defense was good through 3 quarters. Looked terrible in the 4th. Boateng (the FR DB) got picked on. He has to get better fast.

 

The ST looked suspect, too. Still don't have a reliable place kicker.

 

We played lots of true freshman, so hopefully they'll get better.

 

I think we'll really know what we need to know after the Duke game. But if I had to guess on a win total right now based on last night...4 max.

 

Baylor and OU are going to kill us.

WVU and OSU likely will be too good for us, too.

Texas might be vulnerable just due to injury and suspensions, but I think their D Line will destroy our O Line.

TCU/ISU/Texas Tech/CMU are games we have a shot at.

KSU...probably not, but I won't concede it until I've seen more of both teams. Also, KSU is one Waters injury away from being in trouble.

No idea on Duke. I don;t think they're really that good, but man, who are we to talk?

[Derwood]

So 9 of the Top 25 teams played FCS teams.

 

They were 9-0, outscoring their opponents 484-76 (45 of which was by McNeese St and Murray St, with the other 7 teams scoring 31 combined).

 

So please, continue to defend this practice of scheduling these teams.

[Guest]

Last week Oklahoma State beat a FCS team by 17, Rutgers beat one by 13, Wake Forest by 16, Washington by 7, Nebraska by 7, UConn by 3, Kansas by 6, and UNLV escaped by a point. Miami (OH) lost to an FCS team.

 

Through 2 weeks, Conference USA and the MAC are 0-5 against the Top 25, with a combined score of 241-64. 24 of those 64 points are Toledo in an effort where they trailed by 3+ scores for more than half the game.

[Derwood]

Last week Oklahoma State beat a FCS team by 17, Rutgers beat one by 13, Wake Forest by 16, Washington by 7, Nebraska by 7, UConn by 3, Kansas by 6, and UNLV escaped by a point. Miami (OH) lost to an FCS team.

 

Through 2 weeks, Conference USA and the MAC are 0-5 against the Top 25, with a combined score of 241-64. 24 of those 64 points are Toledo in an effort where they trailed by 3+ scores for more than half the game.

 

That's a bigger indictment of those conferences than of the scheduling, IMO

[SouthSideRyan]

Last week Oklahoma State beat a FCS team by 17, Rutgers beat one by 13, Wake Forest by 16, Washington by 7, Nebraska by 7, UConn by 3, Kansas by 6, and UNLV escaped by a point. Miami (OH) lost to an FCS team.

 

Through 2 weeks, Conference USA and the MAC are 0-5 against the Top 25, with a combined score of 241-64. 24 of those 64 points are Toledo in an effort where they trailed by 3+ scores for more than half the game.

 

That's a bigger indictment of those conferences than of the scheduling, IMO

 

???

[Derwood]

Last week Oklahoma State beat a FCS team by 17, Rutgers beat one by 13, Wake Forest by 16, Washington by 7, Nebraska by 7, UConn by 3, Kansas by 6, and UNLV escaped by a point. Miami (OH) lost to an FCS team.

 

Through 2 weeks, Conference USA and the MAC are 0-5 against the Top 25, with a combined score of 241-64. 24 of those 64 points are Toledo in an effort where they trailed by 3+ scores for more than half the game.

 

That's a bigger indictment of those conferences than of the scheduling, IMO

 

???

 

Conference USA and MAC benefit from a system where they get paid a ton of money to lose to the seventh place Big Ten team in a mid-December bowl game every year. They get some TV money. If they are as (or less) competitive than the FCS schools that are organizing bake sales to pay for their uniforms, that's an indictment on those schools.

 

Which makes schools like Illinois and Purdue look that much worse, as they are getting the same split from bowl and network revenues as Ohio State and Michigan State, but put out perennially awful teams. They act like small market teams when they hire coaches. It's pitiful

[SouthSideRyan]

And when top team stop scheduling CUSA and MAC teams, they can schedule Indiana and Syracuse instead, and you can pout about that on annual basis instead.

[Guest]

The point here is that 1) Top 25 schools as a group beat everybody (the group self-selects in that way) and beat most by a decent margin and 2) there isn't an enormous gap between upper level FCS and lower level FBS. If teams are loading up their non-con with that caliber of team(e.g. aTm) then they're absolutely worthy of criticism, but this crusade against FCS games as a concept is silly. Especially when you consider the benefit the FCS schools get out of the deal.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

The point here is that 1) Top 25 schools as a group beat everybody (the group self-selects in that way) and beat most by a decent margin and 2) there isn't an enormous gap between upper level FCS and lower level FBS. If teams are loading up their non-con with that caliber of team(e.g. aTm) then they're absolutely worthy of criticism, but this crusade against FCS games as a concept is silly. Especially when you consider the benefit the FCS schools get out of the deal.

I think that gap has closed in the past few seasons.

[UMFan83]

Hoke deserves to be fired on the basis of today's game. How does a healthy team go on the road against a rival and get their asses handed to them like that? ND isn't that much more talented than Mich.

 

Fire Hoke

Someone on a MLIVE account made a comparison between Hoke's tenure at Michigan and Charlie Weiss when he was at ND. Early over-achievement. Initial recruiting success. Big time hires at coordinators. Never really advanced that much. Recruiting fell off after a couple of yrs. Hammered in the ND/Mich game

 

I have come off the ledge a little over MSU's collapse last night against Oregon. I still think they can compete with the big boys. However, that loss combined with the B1Gs awful day may have eliminated them from getting a shot at the playoff, even if they win out.

 

That is my fear, that Michigan is the new Notre Dame. They used to be consistent for years to the point where it was newsworthy if they dropped out of the top 25 for a week. Now this will almost certainly be the first year that they are not ranked at least one week for an entire season (including preseason rankings) since the 60's. They are still getting the recruits, because they are Michigan, and they still have years like they did a couple years ago when they win the Sugar Bowl, but inbetween there is a lot of mediocrity and coaching turmoil. Some of it is the changing landscape of college football and the location of top talent, some of it is probably not finding the right coach who can both recruit and coach, but its a mess right now in Ann Arbor.

[sneakypower]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/07/college-game-of-the-week-spartans-ducks/2/

[stuy119]

There's been a long enough period of ineptitude at Michigan that it should scare every powerhouse. While it typically takes more than a single bad hire, there aren't a lot of good, young coaches out there who can turn a program around quickly.

[Guest]

@McMurphyESPN: Pac-12 fines USC AD Pat Haden $25,000, source told @ESPN

[Ryne Ween]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/07/college-game-of-the-week-spartans-ducks/2/

 

I don't get this. Oregons offense is the worst rated unit and MSUs offense is the best rate. What do they base these scores on? Oregon pretty much did what they always do when they are successful. Broke a few plays and had a couple 8 play 120 second TD drives and a long dominating nail in the coffin TD drive to end the game. They completely dominated MSU in the second half to win handily.

 

MSUs offense closed the game with 5 consecutive bad drives.

 

I know people try to quantify NCAAF but this seems like a bad attempt. Or I'm reading it wrong.

[Ryne Ween]

@McMurphyESPN: Pac-12 fines USC AD Pat Haden $25,000, source told @ESPN

 

 

USC pulled off a great win but sark getting that penalty and Haden looking like a clown was silly. USCs offensive play calling was terrible. They absolutely did not deserve to win that game. The game was blown by Stanford.

[snoodmonger]

Texas getting blown out by BYU in Austin is unacceptable. They have plenty of talent on that field. It's simply terrible coaching. It's impossible for me to believe that strong will last. How can you let that happen at home?

 

Texas and Michigans football programs are total embarrassments to the legacies of their programs. Hoke and Strong were both step down hires. Texas should have hired Petrino. Hoke should have already been fired. Texas is gonna suck until they get the next Nick Saban to come in at 10 mil per year.

So one game in and Strong has been determined to be a terrible coach?

Also, as someone who loved Petrino when he was at Arkansas, just no. Lost in the [expletive] show of the motorcycle wreck was that Petrino was a terrible recruiter (see the last 2 years of Hog football) and that he had no desire to put any focus on his defense. Pass.

 

If UT runs Strong off, can KU have him?

[dew1679666265]

There's been a long enough period of ineptitude at Michigan that it should scare every powerhouse. While it typically takes more than a single bad hire, there aren't a lot of good, young coaches out there who can turn a program around quickly.

 

The same thing has happened at Tennessee. Legendary coach gets fired for not living up to expectations and program collapses. Two bad coaching hires and we're pretty much nationally irrelevant.

 

High end head coaches in college football are extremely valuable commodities and letting them go should not be done flippantly.

[shnsajax]

So when is Texas getting David Ash back?

Should be never. Head injuries are nothing to mess with and this is not a new issue for him.

 

This he should be done. He didn't even suffer any in game issues, all at night afterwards. This coming after missing 3+ months with post concussion syndrom. Sucks, seems like a good kid.