Minor League Discussion & Boxes 7-13-14

[Guest]

He doesn't strike out as much as Bryant or Baez, but he's not what you'd call a low strikeout guy, either. What he has going for him is that he has a fairly disciplined approach, and the fact that he's such a physical specimen allows him to generate power without selling out for it (like Baez and even Bryant, to a degree).

 

And given his contract status, I find it highly unlikely he'll be given quite the same treatment as the other guys. If he stays healthy and performs at a relatively high level, he's going to move, imo.

 

A 16% K rate is pretty 'low-K', especially when talking about someone who's supposed to hit for power.

[KingCubsFan]

He doesn't strike out as much as Bryant or Baez, but he's not what you'd call a low strikeout guy, either. What he has going for him is that he has a fairly disciplined approach, and the fact that he's such a physical specimen allows him to generate power without selling out for it (like Baez and even Bryant, to a degree).

 

And given his contract status, I find it highly unlikely he'll be given quite the same treatment as the other guys. If he stays healthy and performs at a relatively high level, he's going to move, imo.

 

A 16% K rate is pretty 'low-K', especially when talking about someone who's supposed to hit for power.

Also, since when does Bryant "sell out" for power? Every time I watch one his homeruns, his swing is so controlled that it looks like he just hit a shallow fly. And then it goes 420 feet.

[weis21]

Of course you did.

 

He's murdering baseballs and mashing AA pitching. Give him 10 more games and call him up if he's ready. All I meant.

 

Why you felt the need to compare it to rape is the stupid part.

I guess I wasn't thinking in terms of "comparing it to rape". Just like I wasn't comparing actual murder to "murdering baseballs". I get it though, it could be construed as crude and I understand the negative connotation.

Edited July 14, 2014 by weis21

[NOLA]

All valid points, but he does absolutely molest the curveball.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching.

 

Yeah, he should probably stop doing that when he gets to the big leagues.

[Little Slide Rooter]

WSR, he's talking about the lineup if Soler comes up before Baez and Bryant, you electrical socket.

 

I didn't think about that. Because it would be silly.

 

Speaking of silly, it's how Carlos A Rod (who allegedly turns 19 Saturday) continues to make VSL hitters look to the tune of 4/42 BB/K in 40 IP.

Edited July 14, 2014 by Little Slide Rooter

[Guest]

WSR, he's talking about the lineup if Soler comes up before Baez and Bryant, you electrical socket.

 

I didn't think about that. Because it would be silly.

 

WSR clownin on dudes for silly ideas

[Sammy Sofa]

WSR, he's talking about the lineup if Soler comes up before Baez and Bryant, you electrical socket.

 

I didn't think about that. Because it would be silly.

 

Doooooooooooooooooooooooo telllllllllllllllllllll.

[Little Slide Rooter]

WSR, he's talking about the lineup if Soler comes up before Baez and Bryant, you electrical socket.

 

I didn't think about that. Because it would be silly.

 

WSR clownin on dudes for silly ideas

 

I try to keep them to myself when at all possible.

[ScrubMD]

All valid points, but he does absolutely molest the curveball.

 

He makes passionate, consentual love to any pitch he can get fully extended on.

[XZero771679666304]

He doesn't strike out as much as Bryant or Baez, but he's not what you'd call a low strikeout guy, either. What he has going for him is that he has a fairly disciplined approach, and the fact that he's such a physical specimen allows him to generate power without selling out for it (like Baez and even Bryant, to a degree).

 

And given his contract status, I find it highly unlikely he'll be given quite the same treatment as the other guys. If he stays healthy and performs at a relatively high level, he's going to move, imo.

 

A 16% K rate is pretty 'low-K', especially when talking about someone who's supposed to hit for power.

Also, since when does Bryant "sell out" for power? Every time I watch one his homeruns, his swing is so controlled that it looks like he just hit a shallow fly. And then it goes 420 feet.

 

He himself implied strongly that he sacrifices contact for power (I believe the exact quote was "I try to put damage on the ball, and strikeouts are something that comes with that", or something close to that), and it's reflected in his K rate. Saying he "sells out" may be a touch too strong (a player with 70-80 power doesn't have to), but he's not getting cheated at the plate, either.

[Shilzzz]

you all do realize what you're saying when you refer to sexual acts against someone's will as a metaphor for something good (or, in the case of sports talk, often a show of power, essentially) you're doing something really fucked up, right? this is not being politically correct to state. rape is something that is very serious & absolutely ruins peoples lives. like, in what possible way could the metaphor be useful? and don't mansplain. quite a decent percent of the people on this message board are reasonably intelligent individuals who understand abstract math principals on some level and are able to interpret often complicated information and evaluate that then form as good of an opinion on that data as possible and explain it to others in a clear way. it's not simply unfortunate that people with this ability don't see such an egregious manner of speech as something so destitute and irresponsible that it doesn't occur to them to even use rape or molestation as metaphors for anything, let alone acts of men imposing their power upon objects. a baseball or a pitcher or anything like that is not a child or a woman or a man or any other variation of a human being who is forcefully subdued by sex. that's fucked up. please do everyone a favor and stop using rape as even a near positive likeness of any other act. do yourself a favor and consider what you're actually saying. there is not explaining it away or lessening what was said. just stop.

[wekim81]

So - Soler was named SL player of the week.

[Guest]

you all do realize what you're saying when you refer to sexual acts against someone's will as a metaphor for something good (or, in the case of sports talk, often a show of power, essentially) you're doing something really [expletive] up, right? this is not being politically correct to state. rape is something that is very serious & absolutely ruins peoples lives. like, in what possible way could the metaphor be useful? and don't mansplain. quite a decent percent of the people on this message board are reasonably intelligent individuals who understand abstract math principals on some level and are able to interpret often complicated information and evaluate that then form as good of an opinion on that data as possible and explain it to others in a clear way. it's not simply unfortunate that people with this ability don't see such an egregious manner of speech as something so destitute and irresponsible that it doesn't occur to them to even use rape or molestation as metaphors for anything, let alone acts of men imposing their power upon objects. a baseball or a pitcher or anything like that is not a child or a woman or a man or any other variation of a human being who is forcefully subdued by sex. that's [expletive] up. please do everyone a favor and stop using rape as even a near positive likeness of any other act. do yourself a favor and consider what you're actually saying. there is not explaining it away or lessening what was said. just stop.

 

i definitely don't disagree but along this line of thinking we should also probably never use the terms "murder" or "kill", either.

 

when it comes down to it it's just irresponsible use of language, i guess.

[Warpticon]

I don't disagree with the message, but the timing and aggressiveness of the post is just weird considering the way the discussion progressed.

[Shilzzz]

it's not weird to be aggressive when confronting "rape jokes."

i'm not going to apologize because i'm a literature major and the editor in chief of a poetry journal.

the sports world doesn't typically see stuff like the #yesallwomen movement

so i have to speak up or i am more to blame.

but i think the kind of joking manner which unraveled after the term was taken to task spoke even greater about how using rape in that way is taken lightly. i get we're mostly men here. so it's not often the matter is going to be illuminated. but i can't say i believe what i do & not say these things definitively and loudly.

[ConstableRabbit]

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[ScrubMD]

http://gifshost.com/3204840swsw.gif

 

hahahahaha

[treebird]

you all do realize what you're saying when you refer to sexual acts against someone's will as a metaphor for something good (or, in the case of sports talk, often a show of power, essentially) you're doing something really [expletive] up, right? this is not being politically correct to state. rape is something that is very serious & absolutely ruins peoples lives. like, in what possible way could the metaphor be useful? and don't mansplain. quite a decent percent of the people on this message board are reasonably intelligent individuals who understand abstract math principals on some level and are able to interpret often complicated information and evaluate that then form as good of an opinion on that data as possible and explain it to others in a clear way. it's not simply unfortunate that people with this ability don't see such an egregious manner of speech as something so destitute and irresponsible that it doesn't occur to them to even use rape or molestation as metaphors for anything, let alone acts of men imposing their power upon objects. a baseball or a pitcher or anything like that is not a child or a woman or a man or any other variation of a human being who is forcefully subdued by sex. that's [expletive] up. please do everyone a favor and stop using rape as even a near positive likeness of any other act. do yourself a favor and consider what you're actually saying. there is not explaining it away or lessening what was said. just stop.

 

i completely agree and kind of feel like a piece of [expletive] for reading that conversation and hating it but not saying anything. the main thing, though, is that you're completely right and we can do a better job of getting rid of this stuff.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

hear hear

[Hairyducked Idiot]

i'm not going to apologize because i'm a literature major and the editor in chief of a poetry journal.

 

http://maxcdn.jaypeeonline.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/congratulations.png

 

Related: I was picking fights on Twitter the other day and called a woman a jersey chaser, and I felt so bad I apologized immediately and made a donation to the Women's Media Center to assuage my liberal/troll cognitive dissonance guilt.

[imb]

probably bodes well that i read the "rape" comment and was immediately shocked. like a few years ago that word had to have been pretty prevalent here.

 

but yeah no one gives a [expletive] about your poetry journal

[weis21]

I guess I wasn't thinking in terms of "comparing it to rape". Just like I wasn't comparing actual murder to "murdering baseballs". I get it though, it could be construed as crude and I understand the negative connotation.

 

For fucks sake I get it. It was a dumb use of the word, regardless of my intentions. I acknowledged this from the beginning. I'm sorry.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Will you guys quit Holocausting all over this thread.

[weis21]

I mean it would be one thing if I was defending it. I'm not. I agreed it was wrong.