2015 Draft Discussion

[Bilbo161]

Question for the board: I hope this wasn't covered elsewhere but since Houston had to pay Nix doesn't that mean they went over the spending limit?

[Tryptamine]

Question for the board: I hope this wasn't covered elsewhere but since Houston had to pay Nix doesn't that mean they went over the spending limit?

 

They should be over the limit, but unfortunately they are not because MLB likes to make rules as they go. My understanding was because they didn't retain the rights to Nix despite giving him the 1.5M that it did not count.

[Bilbo161]

Question for the board: I hope this wasn't covered elsewhere but since Houston had to pay Nix doesn't that mean they went over the spending limit?

 

They should be over the limit, but unfortunately they are not because MLB likes to make rules as they go. My understanding was because they didn't retain the rights to Nix despite giving him the 1.5M that it did not count.

 

I kind-of figured that was the only difference. Thanks. Of course that would make sense since making a kid take you to court for the money you agreed to pay him is the kind of behavior MLB teams like to foster anyway. :)

[SouthSideRyan]

The 1.5M was a penalty, not a draft expenditure.

[RammyFanny]

Carson Fulmer wiffleball fastball.

http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Fulmer-Florentine-FA-SS-K.gif

[Tryptamine]

That's just crazy late movement on a fastball.

[Bilbo161]

That's just crazy late movement on a fastball.

That is nice arm side movement. He was aiming for the other side of the plate!

[Guest]

keithlaw ‏@keithlaw 11s12 seconds ago

Brady Aiken had to shut his first outing down after 12 pitches

[Tryptamine]

Starting to look like Neither of Dansby or Tate will be there when the Cubs pick if things continue like this. That's unfortunate because I really don't want to end up with Bregman or Cameron.

[Guest]

Starting to look like Neither of Dansby or Tate will be there when the Cubs pick if things continue like this. That's unfortunate because I really don't want to end up with Bregman or Cameron.

 

i honestly don't understand how you can know enough about these guys (especially high school ones) to have this strong an opinion...what made daz cameron fall so far from being thought of as the 2015 #1 like last summer?

[Tryptamine]

Starting to look like Neither of Dansby or Tate will be there when the Cubs pick if things continue like this. That's unfortunate because I really don't want to end up with Bregman or Cameron.

 

i honestly don't understand how you can know enough about these guys (especially high school ones) to have this strong an opinion...what made daz cameron fall so far from being thought of as the 2015 #1 like last summer?

 

He hasn't made the progress that was expected of him, but still has all the tools. Most mocks have him as a borderline top 10 guy right now while he was a solid bet for 1.1 year ago.

[Guest]

Starting to look like Neither of Dansby or Tate will be there when the Cubs pick if things continue like this. That's unfortunate because I really don't want to end up with Bregman or Cameron.

 

i honestly don't understand how you can know enough about these guys (especially high school ones) to have this strong an opinion...what made daz cameron fall so far from being thought of as the 2015 #1 like last summer?

People realized that he's not his dad? He's never had impressive numbers or scouting reports.

[RammyFanny]

Aiken had Tommy John.

[Deeg]

Aiken is now in play for the Cubs. A very, very interesting decision if indeed he's still on the board. Ask Washington if they're sorry they drafted Giolito at 16.

[Tryptamine]

Aiken is now in play for the Cubs. A very, very interesting decision if indeed he's still on the board. Ask Washington if they're sorry they drafted Giolito at 16.

 

Pitching is too deep to even consider it. There are 7 or 8 other pitchers out there that you could convince me are on par with Aiken before his injury.

[RammyFanny]

Ask Washington if they're sorry they drafted Giolito at 16.

He'll break again soon enough.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Aiken is now in play for the Cubs.

 

Not even a tiny bit interested.

[Tryptamine]

So many people trumpeting the Astros for being right on Aiken, when him having TJS is almost completely irrelevant to the original discussion.

[Guest]

So many people trumpeting the Astros for being right on Aiken, when him having TJS is almost completely irrelevant to the original discussion.

 

Yep.

[George Hayduke]

Aiken is now in play for the Cubs.

 

Not even a tiny bit interested.

[ctcf]

Kinda want to attend an Aiken family BBQ wearing a ton of Astros gear now.

[Tedward]

Aiken is now in play for the Cubs. A very, very interesting decision if indeed he's still on the board. Ask Washington if they're sorry they drafted Giolito at 16.

 

Pitching is too deep to even consider it. There are 7 or 8 other pitchers out there that you could convince me are on par with Aiken before his injury.

 

Before the injury? In this draft? Nah, don't think so.

[Tryptamine]

Aiken is now in play for the Cubs. A very, very interesting decision if indeed he's still on the board. Ask Washington if they're sorry they drafted Giolito at 16.

 

Pitching is too deep to even consider it. There are 7 or 8 other pitchers out there that you could convince me are on par with Aiken before his injury.

 

Before the injury? In this draft? Nah, don't think so.

 

I liked Allard,Tate and Matuella more personally. I don't think there was much separation between Aiken and Buehler,Kirby,Fulmer.

[Guest]

Aiken is now in play for the Cubs. A very, very interesting decision if indeed he's still on the board. Ask Washington if they're sorry they drafted Giolito at 16.

 

Pitching is too deep to even consider it. There are 7 or 8 other pitchers out there that you could convince me are on par with Aiken before his injury.

 

Disagree. If Aiken legitimately was considered a 1.1 candidate last year, he would have at least been considered the top pitcher again this year, pre-TJS, in another weak draft.

 

Besides, nearly all the top pitchers have suffered injuries this season (Aiken, Allard - though it's only his back, Buehler and Matuela). So that leaves Tate, Kirby (doesn't have as good stuff as Aiken), Fulmer (reliever ceiling?) and Funkhouser who haven't been hurt. Yet.

[SouthSideRyan]

So many people trumpeting the Astros for being right on Aiken, when him having TJS is almost completely irrelevant to the original discussion.

 

People mocked the Astros medical staff for thinking there was an issue with his elbow because other name doctors disagreed. Aiken's elbow pops. If they should be mocked it would be for not doing a more thorough medical examination before the draft, not for reducing an offer on what they perceived to be damaged goods.