NFL coaching carousel/NFL Offseason thread

[shnsajax]

This has to be the final straw for Josh Gordon, right?

 

Hope so. Screw football, the kid needs major life help.

 

Scary to think of him and Manziel hanging out together.

[Banedon]

League officials were in town late last month and met with city and Chicago Theatre officials about staging the 2015 NFL Draft at the historic State Street venue, which would be the likely location for the annual event if it is held in Chicago, according to a source close to the search process.

 

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20140707/BLOGS04/140709911?template=mobile

[Banedon]

WR cost per team

 

http://i.imgur.com/Cqd79rR.jpg

[jersey cubs fan]

I have no idea who plays WR for Miami.

[Banedon]

I have no idea who plays WR for Miami.

 

Mike Wallace has a $17.25m cap hit this season.

 

After that...I don't know.

[rawaction]

I have no idea who plays WR for Miami.

 

Mike Wallace has a $17.25m cap hit this season.

 

After that...I don't know.

 

Kinda all that matters. Brian Hartline makes around 5Mil also. But yeah that chart has no correlation between WR talent/production and money spent on the position.

[Guest]

holy [expletive]

 

http://deadspin.com/chris-kluwe-vs-the-vikings-just-got-ugly-1607551863?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

[Banedon]

Ron Jaworski's QB rankings:

 

Rank	Quarterback	Team
32	  Matt Cassel	Minnesota Vikings
31	  Ryan Fitzpatrick	Houston Texans
30	  Geno Smith	New York Jets
29	  Jake Locker	Tennessee Titans
28	  EJ Manuel	Buffalo Bills
27	  Chad Henne	Jacksonville Jaguars
26	  Brian Hoyer	Cleveland Browns
25	  Josh McCown	Tampa Bay Buccaneers
24	  Sam Bradford	St. Louis Rams
23	  Ryan Tannehill	Miami Dolphins
22	  Matt Schaub	Oakland Raiders
21	  Robert Griffin III	Washington Redskins
20	  Carson Palmer	Arizona Cardinals
19	  Jay Cutler	Chicago Bears
18	  Andy Dalton	Cincinnati Bengals
17	  Alex Smith	Kansas City Chiefs
16	  Matthew Stafford	Detroit Lions
15	  Nick Foles	Philadelphia Eagles
14	  Cam Newton	Carolina Panthers
13	  Colin Kaepernick	San Francisco 49ers
12	  Tony Romo	Dallas Cowboys
11	  Eli Manning	New York Giants
10	  Joe Flacco	Baltimore Ravens
9	   Russell Wilson	Seattle Seahawks
8	   Matt Ryan	Atlanta Falcons
7	   Philip Rivers	San Diego Chargers
6	   Ben Roethlisberger	Pittsburgh Steelers
5	   Andrew Luck	Indianapolis Colts
4	   Drew Brees	New Orleans Saints
3	   Aaron Rodgers	Green Bay Packers
2	   Tom Brady	New England Patriots
1	   Peyton Manning	Denver Broncos

[rawaction]

Eli, Flacco and Big Ben always get boosted up for winning rings. Flacco hasn't completed 60% in 3 years, and last year threw more INTs than TDs. Eli has a handful of seasons where he has basically been Matt Schaub. Roethlisberger is pretty good, so he's actually about in the right spot. Though I wonder if he would be behind Rivers without the rings.

[Guest]

Eli, Flacco and Big Ben always get boosted up for winning rings. Flacco hasn't completed 60% in 3 years, and last year threw more INTs than TDs. Eli has a handful of seasons where he has basically been Matt Schaub. Roethlisberger is pretty good, so he's actually about in the right spot. Though I wonder if he would be behind Rivers without the rings.

 

http://i.imgur.com/mjcMeVR.png

[JonJayCutler]

Josh Gordon needs to have a sit-down with BMarsh.

[apete6]

Tony Dungy, perhaps one of the greatest beneficiaries of the Rooney Rule in the history of the NFL, said he wouldn't have picked Michael Sam because of the distractions and that "things will happen" in the locker room. Oh, he also helped Michael Vick repair his image after being in prison for dogfighting. Keep using religion as a front to protect your homophobia, Tony. Rumor has it his son who committed suicide did it because he was gay. So there's that.

[rocket]

Ron Jaworski's QB rankings:

 

Rank	Quarterback	Team
32	  Matt Cassel	Minnesota Vikings
31	  Ryan Fitzpatrick	Houston Texans
30	  Geno Smith	New York Jets
29	  Jake Locker	Tennessee Titans
28	  EJ Manuel	Buffalo Bills
27	  Chad Henne	Jacksonville Jaguars
26	  Brian Hoyer	Cleveland Browns
25	  Josh McCown	Tampa Bay Buccaneers
24	  Sam Bradford	St. Louis Rams
23	  Ryan Tannehill	Miami Dolphins
22	  Matt Schaub	Oakland Raiders
21	  Robert Griffin III	Washington Redskins
20	  Carson Palmer	Arizona Cardinals
19	  Jay Cutler	Chicago Bears
18	  Andy Dalton	Cincinnati Bengals
17	  Alex Smith	Kansas City Chiefs
16	  Matthew Stafford	Detroit Lions
15	  Nick Foles	Philadelphia Eagles
14	  Cam Newton	Carolina Panthers
13	  Colin Kaepernick	San Francisco 49ers
12	  Tony Romo	Dallas Cowboys
11	  Eli Manning	New York Giants
10	  Joe Flacco	Baltimore Ravens
9	   Russell Wilson	Seattle Seahawks
8	   Matt Ryan	Atlanta Falcons
7	   Philip Rivers	San Diego Chargers
6	   Ben Roethlisberger	Pittsburgh Steelers
5	   Andrew Luck	Indianapolis Colts
4	   Drew Brees	New Orleans Saints
3	   Aaron Rodgers	Green Bay Packers
2	   Tom Brady	New England Patriots
1	   Peyton Manning	Denver Broncos

 

dalton over cutler, suck it bears fans

[SpongeWorthy]

dalton's a bum

[NOLA]

Matt Ryan at 8? Ha, ok.

[Flames24Rulz]

Matt Ryan at 8? Ha, ok.

 

Yeah...I don't quite get that.

[Andy]

Kaepernick at 13 is patently absurd as well. He has a wart or two but for crying out loud the dude's made the NFC title game 3 straight years.

[mul21]

Kaepernick at 13 is patently absurd as well. He has a wart or two but for crying out loud the dude's made the NFC title game 3 straight years.

 

Saying that makes you as dumb as the people who rank Eli and Ben highly because of the rings.

[Andy]

Kaepernick at 13 is patently absurd as well. He has a wart or two but for crying out loud the dude's made the NFC title game 3 straight years.

 

Saying that makes you as dumb as the people who rank Eli and Ben highly because of the rings.

I just realized/remembered that Kaepernick didn't play in 2011, so if that's what you were referring to by saying I'm stupid, I totally agree.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Andy

[Mark Priors Calves]

Kaepernick at 13 is patently absurd as well. He has a wart or two but for crying out loud the dude's made the NFC title game 3 straight years.

It was just a about a year ago that Jaworski said Kap can be the greatest QB of all-time. But now he's the 13th best in the league.

[ConstableRabbit]

Kaepernick at 13 is patently absurd as well. He has a wart or two but for crying out loud the dude's made the NFC title game 3 straight years.

It was just a about a year ago that Jaworski said Kap can be the greatest QB of all-time. But now he's the 13th best in the league.

That was a blatant ESPN newmaker thing. Deadspin had an overview:

http://deadspin.com/how-espn-manufactures-a-story-colin-kaepernick-edition-1185400028

[mul21]

Kaepernick at 13 is patently absurd as well. He has a wart or two but for crying out loud the dude's made the NFC title game 3 straight years.

 

Saying that makes you as dumb as the people who rank Eli and Ben highly because of the rings.

I just realized/remembered that Kaepernick didn't play in 2011, so if that's what you were referring to by saying I'm stupid, I totally agree.

 

No, I was going with the team achievements=high ratings for the QB nonsense. If you wanted to cite some individual thing, fine, but not that his team has been to 3 straight NFC championship games.

 

I agree that he's rated too low, by the way, just not with your reasoning.

[mhuber92211]

That list is horrid Big Ben in Top 10? Kap and Russell Wilson behind Both him and Ryan?

 

I wonder if the list was "which QB would you build your team around" how the rankings would change.

 

I suspect Luck would be 1 and Wilson & Kap probably top 5

[Banedon]

There's rumors that Jamaal Charles won't report to camp, and will hold out for a new contract.

[Banedon]

Bucs release DJ Moore.