Week 16: Bears (8-6) @ Eagles (8-6) 7:30 PM NBC

[Guest]

There's some parallels that could be drawn here with McCown.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Collins_(quarterback)

 

On March 14, 2006, Collins was signed by the Washington Redskins to a two-year, $2.5 million contract. Collins was brought in because of offensive coordinator Al Saunders having knowledge of Collins and knowing Collins could assist as a signal caller and backup.

 

On December 6, 2007, Collins replaced Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell, who was injured. Taking charge of a team depleted by injuries and drained by the shooting death of safety Sean Taylor nine days earlier, Collins completed 15 of 20 passes for 224 yards and two touchdowns, leading the Redskins to a 24–16 victory. Collins won NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors for his performance against the Chicago Bears. Coach Joe Gibbs was particularly pleased with the performance, saying "I don't know that I've ever had a better performance coming off the bench. Ever."[5]

 

Following the victory over the Chicago Bears (which improved the Redskins to 6-7), Collins led the Redskins to three more consecutive victories to close out the regular season. Those victories were over the New York Giants, the Minnesota Vikings, and a 27–6 win over the Dallas Cowboys in the season finale. The Redskins' four straight victories at the end of the season left them with a 9-7 record, securing the Redskins' bid for a wild card playoff berth against the Seattle Seahawks. Collins finished the season with a quarterback rating of 106.4. Following completion of the regular season, he was voted NFC Offensive Player of the Month for December.

In the wild card playoff game against the Seahawks, Collins completed 29 of 50 passes for 266 yards and two touchdowns. He also threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter, both of which were returned for touchdowns by the Seahawks defense. These were Collins' first interceptions since the 1997 season. The Redskins lost the game by a score of 35–14, eliminating them from further postseason competition.

 

In 2008 and 2009, Collins again backed up Jason Campbell. On February 29, 2008, despite interest from the Jacksonville Jaguars, Collins was re-signed by the Redskins. His three-year contract was worth an estimated $9 million.[6] Collins took no snaps in the 2008 season. In the 2009 season he saw action in three games as a backup, throwing 12 for 23 for 144 yards. On March 4, 2010, Collins was released by the Redskins.

 

the difference is that Collins essentially managed games and McCown won them.

[scarey]

There's some parallels that could be drawn here with McCown.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Collins_(quarterback)

 

On March 14, 2006, Collins was signed by the Washington Redskins to a two-year, $2.5 million contract. Collins was brought in because of offensive coordinator Al Saunders having knowledge of Collins and knowing Collins could assist as a signal caller and backup.

 

On December 6, 2007, Collins replaced Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell, who was injured. Taking charge of a team depleted by injuries and drained by the shooting death of safety Sean Taylor nine days earlier, Collins completed 15 of 20 passes for 224 yards and two touchdowns, leading the Redskins to a 24–16 victory. Collins won NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors for his performance against the Chicago Bears. Coach Joe Gibbs was particularly pleased with the performance, saying "I don't know that I've ever had a better performance coming off the bench. Ever."[5]

 

Following the victory over the Chicago Bears (which improved the Redskins to 6-7), Collins led the Redskins to three more consecutive victories to close out the regular season. Those victories were over the New York Giants, the Minnesota Vikings, and a 27–6 win over the Dallas Cowboys in the season finale. The Redskins' four straight victories at the end of the season left them with a 9-7 record, securing the Redskins' bid for a wild card playoff berth against the Seattle Seahawks. Collins finished the season with a quarterback rating of 106.4. Following completion of the regular season, he was voted NFC Offensive Player of the Month for December.

In the wild card playoff game against the Seahawks, Collins completed 29 of 50 passes for 266 yards and two touchdowns. He also threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter, both of which were returned for touchdowns by the Seahawks defense. These were Collins' first interceptions since the 1997 season. The Redskins lost the game by a score of 35–14, eliminating them from further postseason competition.

 

In 2008 and 2009, Collins again backed up Jason Campbell. On February 29, 2008, despite interest from the Jacksonville Jaguars, Collins was re-signed by the Redskins. His three-year contract was worth an estimated $9 million.[6] Collins took no snaps in the 2008 season. In the 2009 season he saw action in three games as a backup, throwing 12 for 23 for 144 yards. On March 4, 2010, Collins was released by the Redskins.

 

 

Somebody texted Boers and Bernstein about this last week. It's an uncanny comp.

[sneakypower]

There's some parallels that could be drawn here with McCown.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Collins_(quarterback)

 

On March 14, 2006, Collins was signed by the Washington Redskins to a two-year, $2.5 million contract. Collins was brought in because of offensive coordinator Al Saunders having knowledge of Collins and knowing Collins could assist as a signal caller and backup.

 

On December 6, 2007, Collins replaced Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell, who was injured. Taking charge of a team depleted by injuries and drained by the shooting death of safety Sean Taylor nine days earlier, Collins completed 15 of 20 passes for 224 yards and two touchdowns, leading the Redskins to a 24–16 victory. Collins won NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors for his performance against the Chicago Bears. Coach Joe Gibbs was particularly pleased with the performance, saying "I don't know that I've ever had a better performance coming off the bench. Ever."[5]

 

Following the victory over the Chicago Bears (which improved the Redskins to 6-7), Collins led the Redskins to three more consecutive victories to close out the regular season. Those victories were over the New York Giants, the Minnesota Vikings, and a 27–6 win over the Dallas Cowboys in the season finale. The Redskins' four straight victories at the end of the season left them with a 9-7 record, securing the Redskins' bid for a wild card playoff berth against the Seattle Seahawks. Collins finished the season with a quarterback rating of 106.4. Following completion of the regular season, he was voted NFC Offensive Player of the Month for December.

In the wild card playoff game against the Seahawks, Collins completed 29 of 50 passes for 266 yards and two touchdowns. He also threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter, both of which were returned for touchdowns by the Seahawks defense. These were Collins' first interceptions since the 1997 season. The Redskins lost the game by a score of 35–14, eliminating them from further postseason competition.

 

In 2008 and 2009, Collins again backed up Jason Campbell. On February 29, 2008, despite interest from the Jacksonville Jaguars, Collins was re-signed by the Redskins. His three-year contract was worth an estimated $9 million.[6] Collins took no snaps in the 2008 season. In the 2009 season he saw action in three games as a backup, throwing 12 for 23 for 144 yards. On March 4, 2010, Collins was released by the Redskins.

 

 

Somebody texted Boers and Bernstein about this last week. It's an uncanny comp.

WPA, EPA

2007 Todd Collins: 0.34, 14.0 (5 G)

2013 Josh McCown: 2.76, 88.6 (7 G)

[scarey]

There's some parallels that could be drawn here with McCown.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Collins_(quarterback)

 

On March 14, 2006, Collins was signed by the Washington Redskins to a two-year, $2.5 million contract. Collins was brought in because of offensive coordinator Al Saunders having knowledge of Collins and knowing Collins could assist as a signal caller and backup.

 

On December 6, 2007, Collins replaced Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell, who was injured. Taking charge of a team depleted by injuries and drained by the shooting death of safety Sean Taylor nine days earlier, Collins completed 15 of 20 passes for 224 yards and two touchdowns, leading the Redskins to a 24–16 victory. Collins won NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors for his performance against the Chicago Bears. Coach Joe Gibbs was particularly pleased with the performance, saying "I don't know that I've ever had a better performance coming off the bench. Ever."[5]

 

Following the victory over the Chicago Bears (which improved the Redskins to 6-7), Collins led the Redskins to three more consecutive victories to close out the regular season. Those victories were over the New York Giants, the Minnesota Vikings, and a 27–6 win over the Dallas Cowboys in the season finale. The Redskins' four straight victories at the end of the season left them with a 9-7 record, securing the Redskins' bid for a wild card playoff berth against the Seattle Seahawks. Collins finished the season with a quarterback rating of 106.4. Following completion of the regular season, he was voted NFC Offensive Player of the Month for December.

In the wild card playoff game against the Seahawks, Collins completed 29 of 50 passes for 266 yards and two touchdowns. He also threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter, both of which were returned for touchdowns by the Seahawks defense. These were Collins' first interceptions since the 1997 season. The Redskins lost the game by a score of 35–14, eliminating them from further postseason competition.

 

In 2008 and 2009, Collins again backed up Jason Campbell. On February 29, 2008, despite interest from the Jacksonville Jaguars, Collins was re-signed by the Redskins. His three-year contract was worth an estimated $9 million.[6] Collins took no snaps in the 2008 season. In the 2009 season he saw action in three games as a backup, throwing 12 for 23 for 144 yards. On March 4, 2010, Collins was released by the Redskins.

 

 

Somebody texted Boers and Bernstein about this last week. It's an uncanny comp.

WPA, EPA

2007 Todd Collins: 0.34, 14.0 (5 G)

2013 Josh McCown: 2.76, 88.6 (7 G)

 

Did I say anything about how similar it was statistically?

[Guest]

you said it was uncanny, but it wasn't. Collins had the [expletive] managed out of him

[CubInOK]

Todd Collins just brings back bad memories. Thanks NSBB.

[cubbyvirus00]

Todd Collins just brings back bad memories. Thanks NSBB.

 

Craig Krenzel and Jonathan Quinn, Chad Hutchinson

[Banedon]

Obviously there were differences, Collins managed the team because the defense was WAYYYYY better.

 

But the result was the same. The backup QB suddenly looked like they were a lot better than they'd ever been previously, and ended up getting a decent contract out of it. In both cases, there suddenly was a fanbase for the backup QB. I like what McCown does, but if he's getting paid much money at all, see ya later.

[scarey]

you said it was uncanny, but it wasn't. Collins had the [expletive] managed out of him

 

 

Am I not allowed to use the word uncanny unless the situations are statistically 99% similar?

[jersey cubs fan]

Do we have to spend another week of sulley whining about McCown getting slighted?

 

 

The Bears have a pretty big game this weekend. They are road dogs in a stadium where the home team started really poorly this year, but they have won three straight at home now.

[tfarks]

McCoy is going to win every fantasy team their championships this week.

 

Briggs returning for this game is incredibly fortunate, but I don't think it's enough. At least we know the Bears can play shootouts with the best of em'.

[cubbyvirus00]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think the Bears D will play inspired against Philly.

 

 

With Briggs back and Ratliff playing well I think Peppers has a big game and the line steps it up.

[Guest]

Do we have to spend another week of sulley whining about McCown getting slighted?

 

 

The Bears have a pretty big game this weekend. They are road dogs in a stadium where the home team started really poorly this year, but they have won three straight at home now.

I whine about everything

[Soul]

So what do you think -- I'd say keeping the Eagles in the low 30's would be a good target.

 

Keeping them under 30 points is a fantasy of unicorns and rainbows.

 

We can win this if Cutler & crew can generate 4 TDs, a couple FGs, and then throw in a defensive TD for the win. 37-38 points minimum.

[BigSlick]

So what do you think -- I'd say keeping the Eagles in the low 30's would be a good target.

 

Keeping them under 30 points is a fantasy of unicorns and rainbows.

 

We can win this if Cutler & crew can generate 4 TDs, a couple FGs, and then throw in a defensive TD for the win. 37-38 points minimum.

The Cutler-Bears have played pretty decently against the Eagles, but we'll see.

 

They always seem to come together for really tight, dramatic games. Y'all remember the game where the Bears held off on a goal line stand and Alex Brown (?) stopped em on 4th down? Of course there's the 2010 game that was sort of the Bears Coming Out game, and 2011 they also had a very good game against the Eagles.

 

They need it.

[rawaction]

This is an interesting pic.

[Guest]

Why Josh McCown didn't get $1 more in his contract: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/16/hoge-mccowns-contract-was-logical-not-foolish/

[Guest]

This is an interesting pic.

 

my new desktop

[rawaction]

Its my facebook cover photo.

 

Fwiw, Earl Bennett has been an afterthought this year, but he actually has more catches than he did in either 2011 or 2012. Also a career high 4 TDs.

[SpongeWorthy]

This is an interesting pic.

 

[UMFan83]

So far so bad in Detroit

[BigSlick]

So far so bad in Detroit

Beginning to get real tired of the ticky tack "QB sliding" penalty even though it benefits the Bears more often then not.

 

It just leaves the defensive player with no recourse, its almost impossible to pull up on some of these.

[UMFan83]

So far so bad in Detroit

Beginning to get real tired of the ticky tack "QB sliding" penalty even though it benefits the Bears more often then not.

 

It just leaves the defensive player with no recourse, its almost impossible to pull up on some of these.

 

Agreed. I feel guilty when those calls go in our favor.

[BigSlick]

I, uh, I'm not sure why I thought the Ravens could win this.

[JonJayCutler]

I hope you guys are ready for 10-6 without playoffs two years in a row.