Yankees Sign Masahiro Tanaka

[Backtobanks]

Two things:

1. Most profitble team made 32 mil last year. Although short term it would be nice to see that spent on some players, but what good long term investments were out there to help now and when the kids hit the show? Every player, save for maybe Choo has question marks. The offensive guys are older,were seemingly overpaid, and for far too long. The pitchers have been up and down, and have some age on their arms. Draft compensation is attached to all but Arroyo-who at 36 wouldn't make any sense. So they could easily spend the 32 mil to help us win a handful more games this season, but is it worth it to hurt lose a high pick in a very deep draft and to have less money to spend when you are ready to compete.

Future free agents=Mike Trout 2018, Bryce Harper 2019 would you rather have the 20- 22 mil that is being paid to a late 30's Ellsbury or Choo OR have that and more to sign one of these players that will be 26 she they are on the market. It would be nice to have that flexibility.

 

 

 

You forgot Tanaka might be a free agent in 2018 too. Of course signing Trout, Harper, or Tanaka for $30+ million per year for 7-10 years means you have to have an owner and FO willing to spend that much. Also, you need to have a team attractive enough to attract the top FAs.

[Benny Rodriguez]

Two things:

1. Most profitble team made 32 mil last year. Although short term it would be nice to see that spent on some players, but what good long term investments were out there to help now and when the kids hit the show? Every player, save for maybe Choo has question marks. The offensive guys are older,were seemingly overpaid, and for far too long. The pitchers have been up and down, and have some age on their arms. Draft compensation is attached to all but Arroyo-who at 36 wouldn't make any sense. So they could easily spend the 32 mil to help us win a handful more games this season, but is it worth it to hurt lose a high pick in a very deep draft and to have less money to spend when you are ready to compete.

Future free agents=Mike Trout 2018, Bryce Harper 2019 would you rather have the 20- 22 mil that is being paid to a late 30's Ellsbury or Choo OR have that and more to sign one of these players that will be 26 she they are on the market. It would be nice to have that flexibility.

 

 

 

You forgot Tanaka might be a free agent in 2018 too. Of course signing Trout, Harper, or Tanaka for $30+ million per year for 7-10 years means you have to have an owner and FO willing to spend that much. Also, you need to have a team attractive enough to attract the top FAs.

Good point, you can throw that name in the mix too...the idea stays the same. We are probably better off not tied up with older guys losing their value , when we could add a serious arm or bat to put us over the top(hopefully).

It would be nice to have a guy like that now, but as painful as this year looks, even with one of those guys, we aren't a play-off team. Realistically we're not even .500 without every thing working out as well or better than we hope.

I also think it gives us time to figure out exactly who is going to develop, and where we need the help.

[littlebilly3]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

[Benny Rodriguez]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

 

First, they are simply an example of what could be out there. Second, with the money that is being talked about, I have little doubt that at least one is out there and really think both will.

 

I don't see Washington ponying up 30 mil a year for one guy, especially with Strasberg being a potential free agent in 2017. If you are Trout, how do you not look at the open market with talk of $400 million deal out there?

[Guest]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

 

At least one of them, if not both, will hit the open market. They aren't going to take discounts and they aren't going to sign early long term deals.

[KingCubsFan]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

 

At least one of them, if not both, will hit the open market. They aren't going to take discounts and they aren't going to sign early long term deals.

Are they free agents the same year? It would be hysterical (and depressing) to see the Dodgers add $100mm per year to the payroll for two players.

[Guest]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

 

At least one of them, if not both, will hit the open market. They aren't going to take discounts and they aren't going to sign early long term deals.

I'm betting neither of them do until well past 30. Neither of those teams are small market teams.

[Guest]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

 

At least one of them, if not both, will hit the open market. They aren't going to take discounts and they aren't going to sign early long term deals.

I'm betting neither of them do until well past 30. Neither of those teams are small market teams.

 

I'm betting you're wrong.

 

Doesn't matter who they play for.

[Guest]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

 

At least one of them, if not both, will hit the open market. They aren't going to take discounts and they aren't going to sign early long term deals.

Are they free agents the same year? It would be hysterical (and depressing) to see the Dodgers add $100mm per year to the payroll for two players.

 

No, I don't see how that's hysterical at all.

 

Cubs, plz do that.

[KingCubsFan]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

 

At least one of them, if not both, will hit the open market. They aren't going to take discounts and they aren't going to sign early long term deals.

I'm betting neither of them do until well past 30. Neither of those teams are small market teams.

Harper's agent is Scott Boras. I can't remember a time where Boras had his client sign a long-term extension prior to free agency, but maybe I'm wrong. Based on Boras's practice, it wouldn't surprise me if the Nationals had to pay a heavy premium to keep him away from free agency.

[jersey cubs fan]

I highly doubt that Trout and Harper will ever be available to other teams if they stay healthy. The Nats and Angels won't let them go

 

At least one of them, if not both, will hit the open market. They aren't going to take discounts and they aren't going to sign early long term deals.

I'm betting neither of them do until well past 30. Neither of those teams are small market teams.

Harper's agent is Scott Boras. I can't remember a time where Boras had his client sign a long-term extension prior to free agency, but maybe I'm wrong. Based on Boras's practice, it wouldn't surprise me if the Nationals had to pay a heavy premium to keep him away from free agency.

 

Didn't Boras have ARod sign an extension with the Yankees? Or was that what led to them parting ways?

 

They aren't going to get team friendly discounts, but it can be signed.

Scott Boras, typically not known for negotiating contract extensions for high-profile players on the cusp of free agency, said Wednesday that Scherzer will keep an open mind if the Tigers approach him with a multiyear offer in the coming months.

 

"They know Max likes it there," Boras told ESPN.com. "We would have to sit down and talk about their plans for the future. But when you have a player who likes playing where he's playing and an ownership that has been what Mike Ilitch has been in Detroit, it's certainly something we would listen to."

 

Scherzer, 29, went 21-3 with a 2.90 ERA this season to make his first All-Star team and join Justin Verlander as the second Cy Young Award winner on the Detroit staff. As an arbitration-eligible player, Scherzer is in line for a substantial increase from the $6.725 million he earned last season.

 

Although Boras is better known for negotiating nine-figure free-agent deals than extensions for players who have yet to reach free agency, there have been some noteworthy exceptions to the rule. Outfielder Carlos Gonzalez signed an $80 million extension with the Colorado Rockies in January 2011, and pitcher Jered Weaver agreed to an $85 million deal with the Los Angeles Angels later that year. In April, the Texas Rangers signed shortstop Elvis Andrus to a $120 million extension.

[Guest]

Wasn't ARod a free agent when he signed that extension though?

 

Or did that get signed before he actually had a shot at the open market?

 

I'm just remembering that rumor that he'd go to the Cubs w/Piniella after opting out.

[mul21]

 

Didn't Boras have ARod sign an extension with the Yankees? Or was that what led to them parting ways?

 

 

He opted out after 7 years of the original 10 year deal with the Rangers, but I'm not sure if he ever got to actual free agency in terms of timing of when the deal was signed. He certainly could have signed with anyone that off season though.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

Didn't Boras have ARod sign an extension with the Yankees? Or was that what led to them parting ways?

 

 

He opted out after 7 years of the original 10 year deal with the Rangers, but I'm not sure if he ever got to actual free agency in terms of timing of when the deal was signed. He certainly could have signed with anyone that off season though.

Oh that's right. He opted out, and then fired Boras because of the timing, then negotiated directly with the Steinbrenners (and no other teams) with a Goldman Sachs exec.

[Benny Rodriguez]

Both those guys are very skilled but much like Tanaka, the characteristic that makes people start talking about a 400 million dollar contract is their age.

If Trout is a free agent at 26, he can easily expect a 10 year deal probably more because of that age.

They were talking about Cano getting 300, but he was 31, clearly not even the yankees wanted to pay him 30 mil a year into his 40's.

Economically, Harper and Trout have 1 chance to get that type of super payday. Certainly they would still get paid if they are 31-32 but not like they can at 26.

The last time a player of this caliber became a free agent at that age, AROD signed the richest contract in sports history 10/250 mil.

I don't know how you don't hit the free market just to see what is out there. Certainly you could say of their current teams offer even 30 mil, how do they not sign. On the other hand, you could be looking at another 10 mil a year on the open market- how do you not test that? We are talking an extra 100 mil possibly.

 

I'm sure Boras is watching Trout closely, because Harper being a year later he'll base his negotiations around what Trout gets. Also consider that on that extra 100 mil alone, that would be an extra 5 to 10 mil for the agent, another reason they'll test the market.

 

Obviously they have to continue their play, and stay healthy.

They are free agents a year apart, Trout after 2017, and Harper after 2018

[Banedon]

Tanaka shelled out a reported $200,000 to charter a Japan Airlines 787 to fly him from Tokyo to New York, and a Japanese baseball official told Australia's SBS he did it so he'd be ready for spring training "in the best of form."

 

Of course, with a plane capable of carrying close to 200 passengers, Tanaka wasn't flying alone. That would be silly, right? Excessive, perhaps. Maybe even wasteful.

 

His plane was loaded with six passengers, including Tanaka, his pop star wife Mai Satoda, his manager and a toy poodle named Haru, according to The New York Times.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/11/masahiro-tanaka-expensive-flight_n_4764346.html

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Tanaka shelled out a reported $200,000 to charter a Japan Airlines 787 to fly him from Tokyo to New York, and a Japanese baseball official told Australia's SBS he did it so he'd be ready for spring training "in the best of form."

 

Of course, with a plane capable of carrying close to 200 passengers, Tanaka wasn't flying alone. That would be silly, right? Excessive, perhaps. Maybe even wasteful.

 

His plane was loaded with six passengers, including Tanaka, his pop star wife Mai Satoda, his manager and a toy poodle named Haru, according to The New York Times.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/11/masahiro-tanaka-expensive-flight_n_4764346.html

 

http://i.imgur.com/GuEFmSu.jpg?1

[Tracer Bullet]

Tanaka shelled out a reported $200,000 to charter a Japan Airlines 787 to fly him from Tokyo to New York, and a Japanese baseball official told Australia's SBS he did it so he'd be ready for spring training "in the best of form."

 

Of course, with a plane capable of carrying close to 200 passengers, Tanaka wasn't flying alone. That would be silly, right? Excessive, perhaps. Maybe even wasteful.

 

His plane was loaded with six passengers, including Tanaka, his pop star wife Mai Satoda, his manager and a toy poodle named Haru, according to The New York Times.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/11/masahiro-tanaka-expensive-flight_n_4764346.html

 

we dodged a bullet

[Backtobanks]

Tanaka shelled out a reported $200,000 to charter a Japan Airlines 787 to fly him from Tokyo to New York, and a Japanese baseball official told Australia's SBS he did it so he'd be ready for spring training "in the best of form."

 

Of course, with a plane capable of carrying close to 200 passengers, Tanaka wasn't flying alone. That would be silly, right? Excessive, perhaps. Maybe even wasteful.

 

His plane was loaded with six passengers, including Tanaka, his pop star wife Mai Satoda, his manager and a toy poodle named Haru, according to The New York Times.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/11/masahiro-tanaka-expensive-flight_n_4764346.html

 

we dodged a bullet

 

We certainly don't want a high quality, young pitcher who would wastefully spend $200,000 to make sure he "in the best of form" in spring training.

[Sammy Sofa]

Meanwhile Tom Ricketts is making everyone fly either Southwest C boarding group or standby.

[Guest]

Meanwhile Tom Ricketts is making everyone fly either Southwest C boarding group or standby.

Let's hope they don't crash at midway, too.

[Sammy Sofa]

Meanwhile Tom Ricketts is making everyone fly either Southwest C boarding group or standby.

Let's hope they don't crash at midway, too.

 

Don't think he doesn't have some kind of diabolical insurance scheme.

[Banedon]

Meanwhile Tom Ricketts is making everyone fly either Southwest C boarding group or standby.

Let's hope they don't crash at midway, too.

 

Unconventional landing.

[UK1679666180]

Meanwhile Tom Ricketts is making everyone fly either Southwest C boarding group or standby.

Let's hope they don't crash at midway, too.

 

Unconventional landing.

 

It made getting onto Cicero that much easier.

 

Tim did not have a Time-Life Mysteries of the Unknown premonition.

 

[XZero771679666304]

Meanwhile Tom Ricketts is making everyone fly either Southwest C boarding group or standby.

Let's hope they don't crash at midway, too.

 

Unconventional landing.

 

It made getting onto Cicero that much easier.

 

Tim did not have a Time-Life Mysteries of the Unknown premonition.

 

 

Man, I totally forgot about those books. I wanted them when I was a kid.