Random Other Sports Musings

[biittner77]

Football is tough. Jim Brown is good but he quit to be an actor.

 

So what? I think he's the best pick.

 

But you're wrong because people think of Jim Brown as an actor/ civil rights advocate that played football as opposed to, for example, Jim Thorpe who was a great football player but isn't really known for anything else.

[CubInOK]

Football is tough. Jim Brown is good but he quit to be an actor.

 

So what? I think he's the best pick.

 

But you're wrong because people think of Jim Brown as an actor/ civil rights advocate that played football as opposed to, for example, Jim Thorpe who was a great football player but isn't really known for anything else.

Holy [expletive] someone outside of OK knows who Jim Thorpe is.

[Tracer Bullet]

I thought Jim Thorpe was an Olympian.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, Jim Thorpe is known as a super athlete who also happened to play football.

 

JIM BROWN JIM BROWN JIM BROWN

[Tracer Bullet]

Yeah, Jim Thorpe is known as a super athlete who also happened to play football.

 

JIM BROWN JIM BROWN JIM BROWN

 

That's what I thought.

 

If you're going to put a fb player's head on a mountain it has to be a QB and not a very good RB that played for like 6 years. Besides, QBs are pretty.

[bukie]

Yeah, Jim Thorpe is known as a super athlete who also happened to play football.

 

JIM BROWN JIM BROWN JIM BROWN

 

That's what I thought.

 

If you're going to put a fb player's head on a mountain it has to be a QB and not a very good RB that played for like 6 years. Besides, QBs are pretty.

I was thinking one of Unitas, Bradshaw, Marino, Montana, Elway, Favre (shudder) or even Manning (Peyton, not Eli). Those would be the only QBs that could be considered the best in the game for more than a couple years.

[Tracer Bullet]

Yeah, Jim Thorpe is known as a super athlete who also happened to play football.

 

JIM BROWN JIM BROWN JIM BROWN

 

That's what I thought.

 

If you're going to put a fb player's head on a mountain it has to be a QB and not a very good RB that played for like 6 years. Besides, QBs are pretty.

I was thinking one of Unitas, Bradshaw, Marino, Montana, Elway, Favre (shudder) or even Manning (Peyton, not Eli). Those would be the only QBs that could be considered the best in the game for more than a couple years.

 

It's probably b/c he won seemingly every SB in my youth, but I keep going back to Montana, even though I hated him growing up.

 

Unitas is too long ago. Bradshaw too weird. Marino and Kelly too unsuccessful at SBs. Elway too goofy. Manning and Brady are too recent and Farve doesn't know how to spell his own name. So they're all out.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, Jim Thorpe is known as a super athlete who also happened to play football.

 

JIM BROWN JIM BROWN JIM BROWN

 

That's what I thought.

 

If you're going to put a fb player's head on a mountain it has to be a QB and not a very good RB that played for like 6 years. Besides, QBs are pretty.

I was thinking one of Unitas, Bradshaw, Marino, Montana, Elway, Favre (shudder) or even Manning (Peyton, not Eli). Those would be the only QBs that could be considered the best in the game for more than a couple years.

 

It's probably b/c he won seemingly every SB in my youth, but I keep going back to Montana, even though I hated him growing up.

 

It would have to be Montana. He defined the QB position, and winning Super Bowls, for the modern era. Marino doesn't stand a chance, Favre would go below Brady probably. You can't have Manning because his forehead would cause a rock slide that would destroy the entire mountain and kill all the tourists.

[biittner77]

Yeah, Jim Thorpe is known as a super athlete who also happened to play football.

 

JIM BROWN JIM BROWN JIM BROWN

 

That's what I thought.

 

If you're going to put a fb player's head on a mountain it has to be a QB and not a very good RB that played for like 6 years. Besides, QBs are pretty.

 

I was thinking of Bronco Nagurski. My bad.

 

If it's going to be a QB it has to be Unitas or Montana. To whoever said Unitas was too long ago, what about Babe Ruth?

[Sammy Sofa]

It's weird how football doesn't really have a GOAT icon like so many of the other sports do. I guess Unitas maybe comes close; I'd argue Montana doesn't because despite all of the talent and the winning he was and is just such a zilch as a public figure. That's why I keep coming back to someone like Brown because he's been such a presence as a player and actor and social activist and mentor and who knows what else. He's a larger than life figure. Montana is so [expletive] boring.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Jerry Rice

[bukie]

It's weird how football doesn't really have a GOAT icon like so many of the other sports do. I guess Unitas maybe comes close; I'd argue Montana doesn't because despite all of the talent and the winning he was and is just such a zilch as a public figure. That's why I keep coming back to someone like Brown because he's been such a presence as a player and actor and social activist and mentor and who knows what else. He's a larger than life figure. Montana is so [expletive] boring.

I think it actually has a lot to do with how much of a team and scheme sport it is. There are reasonable arguments that coaches are the most historically significant figures in football.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's weird how football doesn't really have a GOAT icon like so many of the other sports do. I guess Unitas maybe comes close; I'd argue Montana doesn't because despite all of the talent and the winning he was and is just such a zilch as a public figure. That's why I keep coming back to someone like Brown because he's been such a presence as a player and actor and social activist and mentor and who knows what else. He's a larger than life figure. Montana is so [expletive] boring.

I think it actually has a lot to do with how much of a team and scheme sport it is. There are reasonable arguments that coaches are the most historically significant figures in football.

 

Totally agree. I think guys like Lombardi or Halas or Landry trounce any of the players in terms of being real icons of the sport. They're more singularly recognized and they tend to have more longevity.

[rawaction]

It's weird how football doesn't really have a GOAT icon like so many of the other sports do. I guess Unitas maybe comes close; I'd argue Montana doesn't because despite all of the talent and the winning he was and is just such a zilch as a public figure. That's why I keep coming back to someone like Brown because he's been such a presence as a player and actor and social activist and mentor and who knows what else. He's a larger than life figure. Montana is so [expletive] boring.

I think it actually has a lot to do with how much of a team and scheme sport it is. There are reasonable arguments that coaches are the most historically significant figures in football.

 

Yeah and the greats seem to have been surrounded by greats. Montana had Rice and vice versa. Payton had an amazing defense, as did Bradshaw. Emmitt had a ton of HOF talent everywhere. Guys like Sanders and Marino have no rings. Its just too hard for an individual NFL player to get enough credit to be considered that far ahead of his peers. Jim Brown and Unitas have an argument because they played when they were actually able to stand out above the talent around them. But I picked Lombardi because there is such an argument for best player. Put the coach with the biggest influence on the game and with the trophy named after him.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's weird how football doesn't really have a GOAT icon like so many of the other sports do. I guess Unitas maybe comes close; I'd argue Montana doesn't because despite all of the talent and the winning he was and is just such a zilch as a public figure. That's why I keep coming back to someone like Brown because he's been such a presence as a player and actor and social activist and mentor and who knows what else. He's a larger than life figure. Montana is so [expletive] boring.

I think it actually has a lot to do with how much of a team and scheme sport it is. There are reasonable arguments that coaches are the most historically significant figures in football.

 

Yeah and the greats seem to have been surrounded by greats. Montana had Rice and vice versa. Payton had an amazing defense, as did Bradshaw. Emmitt had a ton of HOF talent everywhere. Guys like Sanders and Marino have no rings. Its just too hard for an individual NFL player to get enough credit to be considered that far ahead of his peers. Jim Brown and Unitas have an argument because they played when they were actually able to stand out above the talent around them. But I picked Lombardi because there is such an argument for best player. Put the coach with the biggest influence on the game and with the trophy named after him.

 

Yeah, I think I'm going with Lombardi, too. Good call, and good points, too.

[sneakypower]

put this image on the rock

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K5ls3SJu5Qo/SedCKQckiCI/AAAAAAAAAl4/eQo381ktzG0/s400/john-madden.jpg

[treebird]

put this image on the rock

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K5ls3SJu5Qo/SedCKQckiCI/AAAAAAAAAl4/eQo381ktzG0/s400/john-madden.jpg

 

YES

[Tracer Bullet]

Yeah, Jim Thorpe is known as a super athlete who also happened to play football.

 

JIM BROWN JIM BROWN JIM BROWN

 

That's what I thought.

 

If you're going to put a fb player's head on a mountain it has to be a QB and not a very good RB that played for like 6 years. Besides, QBs are pretty.

 

I was thinking of Bronco Nagurski. My bad.

 

If it's going to be a QB it has to be Unitas or Montana. To whoever said Unitas was too long ago, what about Babe Ruth?

 

I said he was too long ago bc he was. Football wasn't the most popular sport when Unitas played. Is Babe Ruth the most famous athlete in American history? Maybe. Totally different circumstances than football.

 

And as I said before, Lombardi makes the most sense. But if it has to be a player, it has to be a QB and the obvious choice is Montana.

[Rex Buckingham]

Jerry Rice

 

If it's a player, it needs to be Rice. He is so much better than the next best WR. No other player is that much better than the 2nd best player at their position.

[TruffleShuffle]

When I first read the original question, Jim Brown was the first name that popped into my head. It's pretty interesting that football doesn't have a clear standout like the other three.

[Guest]

you could make an argument for peyton. consistently elite, did it for a long time, has a great chance of finishing with the most yards and TDs ever, won a super bowl, well-known/liked public figure off the field, squeaky clean image.

[jersey cubs fan]

Jerry Rice

 

If it's a player, it needs to be Rice. He is so much better than the next best WR. No other player is that much better than the 2nd best player at their position.

 

And yet, he's just a receiver.

[biittner77]

It's weird how football doesn't really have a GOAT icon like so many of the other sports do. I guess Unitas maybe comes close; I'd argue Montana doesn't because despite all of the talent and the winning he was and is just such a zilch as a public figure. That's why I keep coming back to someone like Brown because he's been such a presence as a player and actor and social activist and mentor and who knows what else. He's a larger than life figure. Montana is so [expletive] boring.

I think it actually has a lot to do with how much of a team and scheme sport it is. There are reasonable arguments that coaches are the most historically significant figures in football.

 

Yeah and the greats seem to have been surrounded by greats. Montana had Rice and vice versa. Payton had an amazing defense, as did Bradshaw. Emmitt had a ton of HOF talent everywhere. Guys like Sanders and Marino have no rings. Its just too hard for an individual NFL player to get enough credit to be considered that far ahead of his peers. Jim Brown and Unitas have an argument because they played when they were actually able to stand out above the talent around them. But I picked Lombardi because there is such an argument for best player. Put the coach with the biggest influence on the game and with the trophy named after him.

 

Paul Brown had more influence on the game than Lombardi. Brown pioneered coaching in a lot of ways. But Lombardi is more universally known. If you asked 100 people to name the greatest coach in NFL history probably 85% would say Lombardi. It does have to be Lombardi.

[UMFan83]

This is very random, but this is something I've always wondered. Have teams from the same city in all 4 sports played on the same day? I know there have been plenty of days where 3 teams have, in the spring it happens often, for all 4 teams to play on the same day, it would have been be on a Monday, Thursday or most likely Sunday because of the NFL, it would have to involve a baseball team deep into the World Series and it would have to involve the NBA season starting as early as it can, something like October 29th. So that probably hasnt happened, but if we allow the NBA game to be a preseason game, it becomes much more likely.

[rawaction]

The NBA, in particular, is pretty good about not scheduling games on Sundays early in the season. Football is still in full bloom at the start of the NBA season (October) and most teams are still contenders at that point. And I generally don't remember the NBA ever really scheduling many games on Mondays at any point in any season. So, your best bet is probably going to be a Thursday.

 

This year, it's not possible. NBA season starts the last week in Oct. World Series game 7 is Oct 31. The Thursday NFL game on Oct 31 is Miami/Cincinnati. Marlins obviously aren't playing in the World Series. Cincy doens't have an NBA team. And the only games on the schedule for the NBA are Knicks/Bulls, and Warriors/Clippers.