Rizzo

[Guest]

The use of defensive metrics to calculate WAR is irresponsible. The metrics are so unreliable they have almost no value at all. I can't really imagine how to differentiate the defensive performance of first basemen using those tools. Besides that, 1st is the easiest position to play so the median guy isn't that much worse than the best guy.

 

I love how passionate you are about this topic. I'm not as hardline about it but in general agree with the sentiment behind it.

I'm really surprised there isn't a better defensive metric out there yet or a better more consistent way to calculate defensive WAR.

Too many variables to account for and the positional requirements outside of perhaps LF and RF are so dissimilar it makes it hard to get an absolute value.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The fundamental problem with defensive stats is that you can't really measure value and ability at the same time without sacrificing a ton of accuracy.

[The-Kris-Bryant]

heisenberg's a *****

[Elrhino]

He's only hit 6 HRs since late April. He looks like Sid Bream.

[Tracer Bullet]

He's only hit 6 HRs since late April. He looks like Sid Bream.

 

WS champion, Sid Bream?

[MWV]

If he maintains his current rates, Rizzo would end the season with about 22 HR, 46 doubles, and 76 BB.

Those aren't eye popping numbers, but I think they're acceptable for a 23 YO playing his first full season in MLB.

[mul21]

If he maintains his current rates, Rizzo would end the season with about 22 HR, 46 doubles, and 76 BB.

Those aren't eye popping numbers, but I think they're acceptable for a 23 YO playing his first full season in MLB.

 

Man, he's seemingly been around for so long (in my brain with the whole attachment to the FO) that it seems like he should be at least 25 or so. The fact that he's still only 23 definitely gives me some hope that he'll evolve into the .300/.400/.500 guy we all want him to be.

[Guest]

If he maintains his current rates, Rizzo would end the season with about 22 HR, 46 doubles, and 76 BB.

Those aren't eye popping numbers, but I think they're acceptable for a 23 YO playing his first full season in MLB.

 

Man, he's seemingly been around for so long (in my brain with the whole attachment to the FO) that it seems like he should be at least 25 or so. The fact that he's still only 23 definitely gives me some hope that he'll evolve into the .300/.400/.500 guy we all want him to be.

 

more like .280/.360/.540

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

If you guys think Rizzo's ever going to consistently hit .280 or above, you're gonna have a bad time.

[Guest]

If you guys think Rizzo's ever going to consistently hit .280 or above, you're gonna have a bad time.

 

why? it's not like he strikes out a ton

[SouthSideRyan]

If you guys think Rizzo's ever going to consistently hit .280 or above, you're gonna have a bad time.

 

He just did last year, and had all of one season in the minors where he hit below 280

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

His average in the minors was inflated by the PCL. MLB teams getting the book on him and teams bringing lefties out of the bullpen to face him every team late in games doesn't help either.

 

But it doesn't matter anyway. .260/.350/.500 is fine with me.

[Castros trade value]

He will get better with age, much like wine.

[Guest]

His average in the minors was inflated by the PCL. MLB teams getting the book on him and teams bringing lefties out of the bullpen to face him every team late in games doesn't help either.

 

But it doesn't matter anyway. .260/.350/.500 is fine with me.

 

 

Hitting .336 in 700 AAA PA at ages 21 and 22 are a lot more indicative than the rest of his minor league career, especially when he was sidetracked with the whole having cancer thing.

[Clem Fandango]

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=29311479&topic_id=10025018

 

Boss

[Cubswin11]

Rizzo is 16th in the league in BB, 1 ahead of Cano and 1 behind Mauer. Color me surprised.

[Garwilly]

Rizzo is 16th in the league in BB, 1 ahead of Cano and 1 behind Mauer. Color me surprised.

 

6th in the league.

 

16th in MLB

[EhDubya]

Who will have the better career?

 

Anthony Rizzo vs. Freddie Freeman

 

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[Guest]

I'd say Rizzo's defense narrowly beats out the uncertainty over who will be a better hitter long-term.

[XZero771679666304]

Who will have the better career?

 

Anthony Rizzo vs. Freddie Freeman

 

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I think that they will have similar net production (Freeman might hit for better average, Rizzo may take more walks), with comparable power numbers for both.

[pitchcs]

Who will have the better career?

 

Anthony Rizzo vs. Freddie Freeman

 

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I would have said Rizzo last year, but FF has really surprised me this year.

[XZero771679666304]

Who will have the better career?

 

Anthony Rizzo vs. Freddie Freeman

 

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I would have said Rizzo last year, but FF has really surprised me this year.

 

This year Freeman has been the beneficiary of a high babip, has walked less than Rizzo, and struck out more. Meanwhile Rizzo has been relatively unlucky. Even so, Freeman has only been about half a win better.

[neely crenshaw]

Rizzo is 16th in the league in BB, 1 ahead of Cano and 1 behind Mauer. Color me surprised.

 

6th in the league.

 

16th in MLB

 

I'm guessing he ment MLB since cano and mauer are in the AL

[neely crenshaw]

I think you should probably look at freeman stats before you decide.

I have not watched much so I don't know anything about his defense, I know Rizzo's is top notch.

Freeman is what we need Rizzo to be offensively

his line .311 .388 .478 .865 13 hr 44 bb

Rizzo .240 .334 .447 .781 17hr 54 bb in roughly 40 more at bats, so the difference in walks is about 6 in 110 games and rizoo has struck out 3 more times than freeman 89-86.

 

I don't know that I'd trade but it's hard to argue that offensively Freeman isn't better. Freeman is on his 3rd full season up, so we can hope that Rizzo makes the same step next year but it's hard to argue that what Rizzo might do in the future is as good as what Freeman is doing currently.

[Sammy Sofa]

RIZOO!