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If the Front Office Really Wants a Player, the Money Will Be There

 

Haven't they said this pretty much every offseason? And if it was true, wouldn't that call into question the "The Cubs can't legally spend any more money due to debt service" narrative?

 

I don't really think those are incompatible statements given how little payroll was committed heading into the offseason. It's a pretty meaningless statement, but not a contradiction IMO.

 

Well it would be in previous years.

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Maybe 2011? In 2012 they spent nearly 35 million AAV on Free agents, and last year/this offseason are pretty self evident. Anyway, like David said, it's a pretty silly nit to pick. The statement itself is pointless so trying to pin it down as some type of hypocrisy makes little sense to me.
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Maybe 2011? In 2012 they spent nearly 35 million AAV on Free agents, and last year/this offseason are pretty self evident. Anyway, like David said, it's a pretty silly nit to pick. The statement itself is pointless so trying to pin it down as some type of hypocrisy makes little sense to me.

 

It's not really a nit.

 

 

The thing that has prevented the Cubs from going after free agents has been the front office's interest in free agents, so telling us that the money will be there if the front office wants a guy (something every single organization says just about every year) is pointless.

 

It's PR and pandering more than anything.

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I'm not saying it's inconsistent. I'm saying it's disappointingly accurate.

 

With most organizations, the reaction could be "wow, if true, this is gonna be cool to get these good players."

 

With this one, my reaction is "Man, I sure hope we actually want some of the good players." Because a lot of time we seem to just not want them.

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Yeah, I'm not getting how this is a nit. Or how this is picking out some minor detail to discuss. It's calling into question the quote that happens to be the title of Brett's post.
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I'm not saying it's inconsistent. I'm saying it's disappointingly accurate.

 

With most organizations, the reaction could be "wow, if true, this is gonna be cool to get these good players."

 

With this one, my reaction is "Man, I sure hope we actually want some of the good players." Because a lot of time we seem to just not want them.

 

We supposedly wanted Sanchez and Tanaka but maybe we didn't really want them.

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the quote isn't really news. the money is there to pay the amount we want to pay for free agents. it always has been.

 

hopefully someone wants the amount we want to pay this time.

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The thing that has prevented the Cubs from going after free agents has been the front office's interest in free agents, so telling us that the money will be there if the front office wants a guy (something every single organization says just about every year) is pointless.

 

It's PR and pandering more than anything.

 

So we agree.

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so anyway:

 

We need to add pieces, but we’re going to have young players up here, and with some tweaks, we could be very good and very dangerous, as teams saw late in the year.

 

Unlike the last three Spring Trainings, where we said we had a “puncher’s chance”, we believe we’re now past that. Now the goal is to win the division.

 

I like that they are going out of their way to differentiate how they talk about their chance to compete next year from how they've talked about their chances in previous years (where they have said if things line up right, etc. etc.)

 

Within that context:

You go into free agency aware that guys generally go to the highest bidder. And if there are a lot of bidders, the bidding can get well beyond what you may have initially expected. We will have a lot of younger and inexpensive players for the long-term, so you can afford to try to find pitching, for example, externally. Free agency is best used to complete your team – doing the things you couldn’t do in your system.

 

This is good to hear as it seems to imply that it is now time to complete this team and add the pitching they couldn't from within, eve if it means going beyond what you expected in order to be the high bidder.

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Ex-Boston Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez could get a coaching job next season with the Cubs, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

 

Theo Epstein, former Red Sox general manager and current Cubs president, did not rule out the possibility of hiring Ramirez when the question arose. "I want to see whether he wants to continue playing or not before I answer that question," Epstein said, via the Sun-Times.

 

"We have a really nice relationship with Manny. He did an outstanding job helping the organization this year, and we'll continue to stay in touch, depending on what he wants to do with his career."

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if by coaching you mean manny standing behind javi while at-bat and guiding his movements like a dock worker trying to teach a teenage girl how to play pool, then yes write him a blank check for that
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if by coaching you mean manny standing behind javi while at-bat and guiding his movements like a dock worker trying to teach a teenage girl how to play pool, then yes write him a blank check for that

 

With Soler playing the sexy sax.

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Manny in the dugout would be so awesome

 

Anything to have Baez not end up with a slash line like Kevin Roberson is a plus.

 

Yep. Have to get him on the path to Derrick May like numbers next year.

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if by coaching you mean manny standing behind javi while at-bat and guiding his movements like a dock worker trying to teach a teenage girl how to play pool, then yes write him a blank check for that

This is the greatest post ever

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I read Francona's autobiography and there was a great Manny story in it: A team they were playing in the playoffs accused Manny of stealing their signs. The ump went to Francona and Francona told the ump to go to Manny and ask him what their OWN signs were.

 

Ump did and Manny said "I don't know, they just tell me to play and keep my brain clean"

Ump went back to the other team thoroughly convinced Manny wasn't guilty.

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I read Francona's autobiography and there was a great Manny story in it: A team they were playing in the playoffs accused Manny of stealing their signs. The ump went to Francona and Francona told the ump to go to Manny and ask him what their OWN signs were.

 

Ump did and Manny said "I don't know, they just tell me to play and keep my brain clean"

Ump went back to the other team thoroughly convinced Manny wasn't guilty.

 

Hahaha. So Manny is Homer Simpson?

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