Random Cubs Musings

[jersey cubs fan]

define too many. To make me stop liking the Cubs and then not be able to enjoy the world series? Probably infinity.

 

To say that they've done a good job running the team? Well, that is going to depend on what else happens.

[sneakypower]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

that's weird

 

i'd probably be more than happy winning 90 games a year even with a no WS guarantee

[davell]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

 

Which is meaningless, because you can't know that.

But that's what he asked.

[jersey cubs fan]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

 

Which is meaningless, because you can't know that.

But that's what he asked.

no it isn't

[davell]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

that's weird

 

i'd probably be more than happy winning 90 games a year even with a no WS guarantee

 

See, I think that's weird. There's one winner each year. Winning 90 and not winning it all does nothing for me. In fact, it just hurts.

[jersey cubs fan]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

that's weird

 

i'd probably be more than happy winning 90 games a year even with a no WS guarantee

 

See, I think that's weird. There's one winner each year. Winning 90 and not winning it all does nothing for me. In fact, it just hurts.

 

So you are one of those people that didn't enjoy 2008?

[davell]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

 

Which is meaningless, because you can't know that.

But that's what he asked.

no it isn't

 

"How many years of this BS is too much for a World Series to cure it?"

[davell]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

that's weird

 

i'd probably be more than happy winning 90 games a year even with a no WS guarantee

 

See, I think that's weird. There's one winner each year. Winning 90 and not winning it all does nothing for me. In fact, it just hurts.

 

So you are one of those people that didn't enjoy 2008?

 

Not after it was over. We didn't win.

[neely crenshaw]

I want a World Series win.

as a fan, I am hoping to have a Braves or Cardinals like run where every year we are a real contender for a title.

 

As for how many years of this would it not be worth it anymore, for me I can't see this FO being here long enough to run me off, if they haven't turned it around. So I guess if we have 4-5 more years of this, I would expect a change. Then I am just stupid enough to buy into whatever they are doing for the next few years…

 

I have to believe we are seeing a change in play by next season.

[Guest]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

 

I'm not like that. I'll take 8 or 9 years of being around or above 90 wins over that and let the chips fall where they may in the playoffs (I know that's not the question) over that.

[Guest]

I personally don't give a [expletive] if they win 10 games TOTAL over the next 9 years if I know year 10 is a World Series winner.

that's weird

 

i'd probably be more than happy winning 90 games a year even with a no WS guarantee

 

See, I think that's weird. There's one winner each year. Winning 90 and not winning it all does nothing for me. In fact, it just hurts.

 

 

This is exactly why it is less important to me. It's based largely by luck and a system that is simply designed to weed 10 teams (is that how many it is now?) down to 1 with little regard for the actual quality of those teams. That's fine and fun and all, but actually being good for a long stretch of time is more meaningful and more enjoyable.

[davell]

When the Cubs win it all, I may be able to enjoy winning seasons that don't result in a championship. I think 03 and 04 totally changed my mentality.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm going to go watch the Youtube videos of Kane's OT and 17 seconds again, because I don't believe anyone who says they'd rather have a bunch of playoff losses than one championship.

[sneakypower]

literally no one has said that here

[Guest]

By the very next season after the WS, I'm literally not going to be satisfied and I'm going to want another one...so that one title is going to do nothing to make me feel better about 9 awful seasons.

[treebird]

if you watched the 2008 season and came away thinking it sucked because they didn't win, i don't understand how you even continue to follow baseball.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

literally every said that everywhere

[Guest]

if you watched the 2008 season and came away thinking it sucked because they didn't win, i don't understand how you even continue to follow baseball.

 

Yep.

 

Most fun I've had as a Cubs fan aside from the couple weeks in 03 which were obviously amazing

[davell]

if you watched the 2008 season and came away thinking it sucked because they didn't win, i don't understand how you even continue to follow baseball.

 

It's because of seasons like that, that I DO continue to follow. Because it lets you imagine how great it'd be to go all the way. But the other part of me just checks off another year where it didn't happen.

[neely crenshaw]

Exactly.

As a real fan that's all you can ask for. We had a window where we were good, at times very good. Things didn't go our way but it was a lot of fun.

Even in 09, and 10 we were mentioned as serious contenders to win at the start of the year. As a Cub fan there have been very few seasons that we felt like we were favorites to start a season! I'd take that every season.

 

footnote….I really would like a WS title at some point.

[Ryne Ween]

How long do you expect the joy of a championship to last? They are still trying to fire Tom Coughlin. I think you guys have unrealistic expectations for how great a championship would make you feel versus taking four or five full seasons of baseball, literally hundreds and hundres of potentially meaningful and enjoyable baseball games, and destroying them as a source of entertainment in order to MAYBE better position the team for a World Series. My contention is that a World Series is not worth this. In other words even if this thing is successful its not successful.

 

Don't a lot of you guys have season tickets. I can't imagine how pissed I'd be if I was pourin thousands of dollars into Theo and Tom's grand experiment.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

How long do you expect the joy of a championship to last?

 

Well, it's been four years since "Nobody knows where the puck is ... it's in the back of the net!" and it still feels pretty darn good.

[SouthSideRyan]

I won't say I fully agree with him but ween makes good points. Baseball is supposed to be fun, and if it takes 10 seasons of my nuts being bit off by a Laplander for one week of euphoria, I have a hard time saying it was worth it.

[Ryne Ween]

How long do you expect the joy of a championship to last?

 

Well, it's been four years since "Nobody knows where the puck is ... it's in the back of the net!" and it still feels pretty darn good.

 

I am not a fan of hockey at all. Was not alive for the 85 Bears and the Bulls were winning before I knew what it meant so I was sort of water birthed into a championship environment. So i dont know. But to me you sound like a sox fan talking about 2005 and I simply dont believe that it still feels good.

[ConstableRabbit]

if you watched the 2008 season and came away thinking it sucked because they didn't win, i don't understand how you even continue to follow baseball.

It was mostly fun during the season because you thought they had a chance to win. Because it was the best Cubs team in decades. If you knew they wouldn't win off the bat it wouldn't have been fun.