NFL Offseason/Coaching Carousel/non-playoff talk

[Warpticon]

Looks like the Jake Long market never materialized the way he thought. He's back in negotiations with Miami.

 

I'd bet it has less to do with market than it does ability to adequately pass a physical.

 

Highly unlikely.

[hawkeyecub]

Vikings got Greg Jennings.

[Magnetic Curses]

how much money did they piss away on this?

[hawkeyecub]

All of it.

[Magnetic Curses]

well, i'm glad someone in the north did.

[RynoRules]

Elvis lives! Can someone explain what the NFL has against modern technology? Does anyone use fax machines anymore?

[Formerly Snayke]

Long finally picks the Rams.

[dew1679666265]

In perhaps the biggest moves of the offseason for any team, the Titans cut Matt Hasselbeck and Jordan Babineaux today and signed Ryan Fitzpatrick.

 

I really like these moves. Fitzpatrick is younger and better than Hasselbeck, but is still a really smart guy (and QB, I believe) with experience who can help tutor Locker. Babineaux isn't very good, is already redundant with the addition of George Wilson and will become moreso if the Titans (please) sign Bernard Pollard.

[Warpticon]

Compensatory picks were issued today. SF got 3, as if they needed more picks. They have 14 now.

[Banedon]

New Jags logo and new Dolphins logo leaked.

 

Jags:

 

http://i.imgur.com/3Cd0NQX.jpg

 

 

Dolphins:

 

http://i.imgur.com/Jya1oVE.jpg

 

[imb]

jags yes

dolphins no

[Banedon]

I don't know how a SB team with 14 draft picks isn't #1....

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/74371/espn-coms-nfl-pre-draft-power-rankings-2

[Banedon]

Tuck rule change passed overwhelmingly.

 

As did the RB crown of the helmet rule. Dumb.

 

 

EDIT: Crown of the helmet rule change vote was 31-1.

[Banedon]

Jim Schwartz challenge flag rule also was changed.

[dew1679666265]

Tuck rule change passed overwhelmingly.

 

As did the RB crown of the helmet rule. Dumb.

 

I know there's a lot of alarmism going on and I know concussions are a significant issue, but this is getting ridiculous. How in the world is this enforceable without really dragging down the games?

[CubColtPacer]

Tuck rule change passed overwhelmingly.

 

As did the RB crown of the helmet rule. Dumb.

 

I know there's a lot of alarmism going on and I know concussions are a significant issue, but this is getting ridiculous. How in the world is this enforceable without really dragging down the games?

 

It depends on how far it gets out of hand. The NFL reviewed a week of games and found 5 times that it was worthy of penalty. It is only for plays outside the tackle box and only on obvious situations (so it's not as strong as the QB rule where even inadvertent contact is called). If it's only happening in 1 out of 3 games even before the RB's start adjusting for it, it shouldn't be getting called all that often.

[Banedon]

Tuck rule change passed overwhelmingly.

 

As did the RB crown of the helmet rule. Dumb.

 

I know there's a lot of alarmism going on and I know concussions are a significant issue, but this is getting ridiculous. How in the world is this enforceable without really dragging down the games?

 

It depends on how far it gets out of hand. The NFL reviewed a week of games and found 5 times that it was worthy of penalty. It is only for plays outside the tackle box and only on obvious situations (so it's not as strong as the QB rule where even inadvertent contact is called). If it's only happening in 1 out of 3 games even before the RB's start adjusting for it, it shouldn't be getting called all that often.

 

If it's only happening that often, why the need for the rule change?

[jersey cubs fan]

Tuck rule change passed overwhelmingly.

 

As did the RB crown of the helmet rule. Dumb.

 

I know there's a lot of alarmism going on and I know concussions are a significant issue, but this is getting ridiculous. How in the world is this enforceable without really dragging down the games?

 

I do not get all the "dragging down the game" alarmism when it comes to these rules. Steelers fans have been apoplectic because they are stacked with dirty players who make dirty plays and now get called on it. These rules are essentially enforcing the way every youth coach should have been teaching his players how to play the game safely. You can still hit the crap out of guys in this sport and still have fantastic contests without the stuff they are now cracking down on.

[CubColtPacer]

Tuck rule change passed overwhelmingly.

 

As did the RB crown of the helmet rule. Dumb.

 

I know there's a lot of alarmism going on and I know concussions are a significant issue, but this is getting ridiculous. How in the world is this enforceable without really dragging down the games?

 

It depends on how far it gets out of hand. The NFL reviewed a week of games and found 5 times that it was worthy of penalty. It is only for plays outside the tackle box and only on obvious situations (so it's not as strong as the QB rule where even inadvertent contact is called). If it's only happening in 1 out of 3 games even before the RB's start adjusting for it, it shouldn't be getting called all that often.

 

If it's only happening that often, why the need for the rule change?

 

Well, that's still 80 times a season. If they can get that down to 20-30 by calling it a penalty, I'm sure the NFL will think that's a success, even if 5-6 times it's called wrong over the course of the year.

[dew1679666265]

It depends on how far it gets out of hand. The NFL reviewed a week of games and found 5 times that it was worthy of penalty. It is only for plays outside the tackle box and only on obvious situations (so it's not as strong as the QB rule where even inadvertent contact is called). If it's only happening in 1 out of 3 games even before the RB's start adjusting for it, it shouldn't be getting called all that often.

 

I didn't know that it wasn't applicable inside the tackle box, that makes it much more palatable. I kind of wonder, though, if it's really as rare as they make it sound, what's the point of the penalty? If it happens that little then it's basically just a chance for refs to screw up with minimal benefit.

 

Pointless at best, in other words.

[dew1679666265]

Tuck rule change passed overwhelmingly.

 

As did the RB crown of the helmet rule. Dumb.

 

I know there's a lot of alarmism going on and I know concussions are a significant issue, but this is getting ridiculous. How in the world is this enforceable without really dragging down the games?

 

I do not get all the "dragging down the game" alarmism when it comes to these rules. Steelers fans have been apoplectic because they are stacked with dirty players who make dirty plays and now get called on it. These rules are essentially enforcing the way every youth coach should have been teaching his players how to play the game safely. You can still hit the crap out of guys in this sport and still have fantastic contests without the stuff they are now cracking down on.

 

I've never complained about banning dirty stuff from the game. However, there's nothing dirty about getting your shoulder pads out front before you get tackled. When that happens, you're opening yourself up to either leaning slightly too much and getting a legit penalty or the ref making a bad call and screwing a team. If you don't do that, then you open yourself up to getting clotheslined or speared and potentially seriously injured.

[jersey cubs fan]

However, there's nothing dirty about getting your shoulder pads out front before you get tackled. When that happens, you're opening yourself up to either leaning slightly too much and getting a legit penalty or the ref making a bad call and screwing a team. If you don't do that, then you open yourself up to getting clotheslined or speared and potentially seriously injured.

 

There is something dirty and dangerous about leading with the crown of your helmet. If you get clotheslined or speared the other team will be penalized.

[dew1679666265]

However, there's nothing dirty about getting your shoulder pads out front before you get tackled. When that happens, you're opening yourself up to either leaning slightly too much and getting a legit penalty or the ref making a bad call and screwing a team. If you don't do that, then you open yourself up to getting clotheslined or speared and potentially seriously injured.

 

There is something dirty and dangerous about leading with the crown of your helmet. If you get clotheslined or speared the other team will be penalized.

 

There's no rule about spearing unless you lead with your helmet, is there? Also, if it's dirty to drop your pads when contact is about to be made, then pretty much every ballcarrier in NFL history has been dirty pretty consistently.

[Guest]

Walter Payton was apparently a really dirty player.

[jersey cubs fan]

However, there's nothing dirty about getting your shoulder pads out front before you get tackled. When that happens, you're opening yourself up to either leaning slightly too much and getting a legit penalty or the ref making a bad call and screwing a team. If you don't do that, then you open yourself up to getting clotheslined or speared and potentially seriously injured.

 

There is something dirty and dangerous about leading with the crown of your helmet. If you get clotheslined or speared the other team will be penalized.

 

There's no rule about spearing unless you lead with your helmet, is there? Also, if it's dirty to drop your pads when contact is about to be made, then pretty much every ballcarrier in NFL history has been dirty pretty consistently.

 

You are pointlessly talking about dropping your pads when this is not at all what is being described.