Week 17 The Scoreboard Watching Bears @ Detroit Lions

[JonJayCutler]

Whether relevant or not, Cutler's three games with the Bears at Ford Field:

 

22/36, 276 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT, 122.0 Rating

21/26, 234 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 117.0 Rating

28/38, 249 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 99.6 Rating

[UMFan83]

I just realized that because of the Packers needing a win for the bye, the infamous referee screw job in Seattle has effected our season in a positive way.

[rawaction]

I just realized that because of the Packers needing a win for the bye, the infamous referee screw job in Seattle has effected our season in a positive way.

It was the Packers losing. It was going to be positive for the Bears either way.

[RynoRules]

I predict we will lose by 14. You aren't going to beat up on Detroit's offense like you did Arizona, and our offense isn't good. The Bears are fortunate to be in this position at all. They are a lot closer to being a 7-9 team than a 10-6 team.

 

That's not true.

 

I disagree. Go look at Football Outsiders. They have the number one ranked defense in terms of efficiency, the 4th ranked ST, and the 24th ranked offense.

 

Basically this means that if the defense isn't damn near perfect they're screwed. I realize history will show that some teams can win this way (2000 Ravens come to mind), but I'd venture to say that it's the exception rather than the rule.

 

Also, the Bears SOS has been tough, but not as hard as it might look on paper. Again according to Football Outsiders, Detroit's has actually been a bit tougher, as has Minnesota's, Seattle's, and San Fran's.

[UMFan83]

Usually when a team has top 5 units in 2 of the 3 phases they are a better than .500 team. Yes if the D isn't perfect they are screwed but they numbers bear out that most of the time the defense is really really good, good enough for a win.

 

Go look at football outsiders again and find out how many times in the last 5 years a top 5 defense has finished over .500 regardless of the other 2 units. I don't know for a fact what you'll find but I'm guessing you will see that almost all of them did.

[CubColtPacer]

I predict we will lose by 14. You aren't going to beat up on Detroit's offense like you did Arizona, and our offense isn't good. The Bears are fortunate to be in this position at all. They are a lot closer to being a 7-9 team than a 10-6 team.

 

That's not true.

 

I disagree. Go look at Football Outsiders. They have the number one ranked defense in terms of efficiency, the 4th ranked ST, and the 24th ranked offense.

 

Basically this means that if the defense isn't damn near perfect they're screwed. I realize history will show that some teams can win this way (2000 Ravens come to mind), but I'd venture to say that it's the exception rather than the rule.

 

Also, the Bears SOS has been tough, but not as hard as it might look on paper. Again according to Football Outsiders, Detroit's has actually been a bit tougher, as has Minnesota's, Seattle's, and San Fran's.

 

Football Outsiders also has an estimated win tool to figure out how their ratings should correspond to record. They have the Bears at 10.6 estimated wins so far. Considering they are 6th in their overall ratings, that seems pretty consistent with where they think the Bears are.

[jersey cubs fan]

I predict we will lose by 14. You aren't going to beat up on Detroit's offense like you did Arizona, and our offense isn't good. The Bears are fortunate to be in this position at all. They are a lot closer to being a 7-9 team than a 10-6 team.

 

That's not true.

 

I disagree. Go look at Football Outsiders. They have the number one ranked defense in terms of efficiency, the 4th ranked ST, and the 24th ranked offense.

 

Basically this means that if the defense isn't damn near perfect they're screwed. I realize history will show that some teams can win this way (2000 Ravens come to mind), but I'd venture to say that it's the exception rather than the rule.

 

Also, the Bears SOS has been tough, but not as hard as it might look on paper. Again according to Football Outsiders, Detroit's has actually been a bit tougher, as has Minnesota's, Seattle's, and San Fran's.

 

I'm not sure how you go through that thought process and still think it justifies saying this team is closer to 7-9 than 10-6.

 

 

Hell, if Earl Bennett could catch a ball they'd already have 10 wins and would be looking at 11.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

 

Hell, if Earl Bennett could catch a ball

 

lol

[BigSlick]

 

 

Hell, if Earl Bennett could catch a ball

 

lol

Or Major Wright for that matter.

 

 

Regardless, these things happen in a season. If Steve Smith doesn't fall down on one play we also lose a win

[Guest]

I predict we will lose by 14. You aren't going to beat up on Detroit's offense like you did Arizona, and our offense isn't good. The Bears are fortunate to be in this position at all. They are a lot closer to being a 7-9 team than a 10-6 team.

 

That's not true.

 

I disagree. Go look at Football Outsiders. They have the number one ranked defense in terms of efficiency, the 4th ranked ST, and the 24th ranked offense.

 

Basically this means that if the defense isn't damn near perfect they're screwed. I realize history will show that some teams can win this way (2000 Ravens come to mind), but I'd venture to say that it's the exception rather than the rule.

 

Also, the Bears SOS has been tough, but not as hard as it might look on paper. Again according to Football Outsiders, Detroit's has actually been a bit tougher, as has Minnesota's, Seattle's, and San Fran's.

 

Football Outsiders also has them as the 6th best team overall in football, so how, exactly, do they support your argument that this is closer to a 7-9 team than a 10-6 team?

[Banedon]

Bears sign safety Troy Nolan.

 

Nolan spent time with the Dolphins and Texans earlier this season, but has been looking for work since getting waived by the Texans last month.

 

Nolan entered the league as a seventh-round pick of the Texans in the 2010 draft. He played 30 games and made six starts for them in his first two seasons, but got cut in the final round of roster trimming in August. He played three games for the Dolphins before winding up back in Houston, where he played four games before hitting the open market once more.

 

Sounds like a real prize.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Sounds like Adrian Peterson might be slowed on Sunday by an abdominal injury. Although if a fully shredded nee doesn't slow him down, I'm not awfully optimistic that an abdominal injury will factor too much into Sunday's outcome.

[Banedon]

Henry Melton, during his media session today, called the Lions a dirty team and said he doesn't like them.

[Banedon]

Apparently if the Bears win, GB and Min tie, and SF wins, the Bears would play GB in the first round.

[Banedon]

NFL Network’s Albert Breer has a detailed look at some options for the future of the game, which the league seems intent on replacing.

 

One option the league’s floating is to make it a college all-star game, perhaps even moving the Senior Bowl into that time slot, to create a celebration of the future as well as the present.

[jersey cubs fan]

NFL Network’s Albert Breer has a detailed look at some options for the future of the game, which the league seems intent on replacing.

 

One option the league’s floating is to make it a college all-star game, perhaps even moving the Senior Bowl into that time slot, to create a celebration of the future as well as the present.

 

The NFL is doing away with this week's Bears game? That doesn't seem fair.

[Banedon]

NFL Network’s Albert Breer has a detailed look at some options for the future of the game, which the league seems intent on replacing.

 

One option the league’s floating is to make it a college all-star game, perhaps even moving the Senior Bowl into that time slot, to create a celebration of the future as well as the present.

 

The NFL is doing away with this week's Bears game? That doesn't seem fair.

 

lol, I did kinda cut out some crucial info there, eh?

 

Was referring to the pro bowl obviously.

[RynoRules]

I predict we will lose by 14. You aren't going to beat up on Detroit's offense like you did Arizona, and our offense isn't good. The Bears are fortunate to be in this position at all. They are a lot closer to being a 7-9 team than a 10-6 team.

 

That's not true.

 

I disagree. Go look at Football Outsiders. They have the number one ranked defense in terms of efficiency, the 4th ranked ST, and the 24th ranked offense.

 

Basically this means that if the defense isn't damn near perfect they're screwed. I realize history will show that some teams can win this way (2000 Ravens come to mind), but I'd venture to say that it's the exception rather than the rule.

 

Also, the Bears SOS has been tough, but not as hard as it might look on paper. Again according to Football Outsiders, Detroit's has actually been a bit tougher, as has Minnesota's, Seattle's, and San Fran's.

 

Football Outsiders also has an estimated win tool to figure out how their ratings should correspond to record. They have the Bears at 10.6 estimated wins so far. Considering they are 6th in their overall ratings, that seems pretty consistent with where they think the Bears are.

 

I did a poor job of summarizing my point, which was that they need their defense to play lights -out or close thereto in each and every game in order for the Bears to win, as evidenced by the fact that their offense is amongst the League's worst. If the D were just a notch or two lower they'd be on pace for 7 or 8 wins. In general, needing your D to play that well all the time isn't likely to lead to success Sure its possible this team will pull a 2000 Ravens, it just isn't very likely.

[jersey cubs fan]

I did a poor job of summarizing my point, which was that they need their defense to play lights -out or close thereto in each and every game in order for the Bears to win, as evidenced by the fact that their offense is amongst the League's worst. If the D were just a notch or two lower they'd be on pace for 7 or 8 wins. In general, needing your D to play that well all the time isn't likely to lead to success Sure its possible this team will pull a 2000 Ravens, it just isn't very likely.

 

 

You aren't going to have sustained success while relying on a strong defense to carry a poor offense, but it does happen a year or two at a time quite frequently.

[Banedon]

Not sure why Tillman is in this, but lol....

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/Cbf9F.jpg

 

[jersey cubs fan]

Not sure why Tillman is in this, but lol....

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/Cbf9F.jpg

 

The league's most celebrated ball turner-over and the most celebrated ball taker-awayer, I guess it makes sense.

[rawaction]

Bears have 5 probowlers. Yet, none of them have been the best player on the team this year.

 

Tillman, Jennings, Melton, Peppers and Marshall are in. Briggs is not.

[Smack]

Bears have 5 probowlers. Yet, none of them have been the best player on the team this year.

 

Tillman, Jennings, Melton, Peppers and Marshall are in. Briggs is not.

 

I think you could make the case for Marshall being the best, but that really sucks for Briggs. I bet he ends up getting a nod if anyone gets hurt.

[Banedon]

The Bears are talky.

 

“You put a little pressure on him, you close the pocket on him, and he hesitates,” Wright said Wednesday. “He doesn’t make that perfect throw. . . . He can make any throw on that field, so you have to be aware of putting pressure on him because you put a little pressure on him he kind of folds.”

 

“You don’t want to sit back and let him pick you apart because he’s a good quarterback, and if he has time he can complete any throw,” Wright said. “We definitely want to get in his face and kind of bother him.”

 

He's not wrong, but still. Shut up.

[hawkeyecub]

Bears have 5 probowlers. Yet, none of them have been the best player on the team this year.

 

Tillman, Jennings, Melton, Peppers and Marshall are in. Briggs is not.

 

I think you could make the case for Marshall being the best, but that really sucks for Briggs. I bet he ends up getting a nod if anyone gets hurt.

 

It's ridiculous that the OLB spots all go to 3-4 pass rushers.