Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

[bleedingblue]

According to Heyman.

 

Edited December 19, 2012 by bleedingblue

[SABR Gamer]

Does this mean no Jackson?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Does this mean no Jackson?

 

Allegedly not. But it is kind of weird.

 

I think he's a bit overrated, but he should make for some nice depth and I like having him more than not having him.

[WrigleyField 22]

Cool.

 

There just have to be a few trades on the way. Garza and/or Marmol are gone for non 40 man roster players. Plus a few cuts to fringy guys. Whats our total overage right now?

 

 

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[Guest]

I'll go ahead and wait until I see him in a Cub uniform at Spring Training before I get excited.

[Andy]

Decent lower rotation/innings eater guy. I'll take it.

[Little Slide Rooter]

He has relieved more than started over the past few years.

[Schwarber Fan]

Garza

Samardzija

Wood

Villanueva

Baker/Feldman

 

hard to complain, especially when put up against the 2012 debacle

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm not even convinced he's better than Wood, let alone Feldman. It'd be odd if we promised him a rotation spot, but that's what he supposedly wanted to sign.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'll go ahead and wait until I see him in a Cub uniform at Spring Training before I get excited.

 

Make sure it's reported by someone other than Muskat that he's there.

[SABR Gamer]

I'm not even convinced he's better than Wood, let alone Feldman. It'd be odd if we promised him a rotation spot, but that's what he supposedly wanted to sign.

 

Who are the odd men out if we also add Jackson?

[Tryptamine]

Adding Villaneuva and still pursuing Edwin Jackson makes me real concerned that the Rumors about Garza's arm that ABTY was talking about are real.

[SABR Gamer]

I would think Villanueva ends up in the pen. I know he wants to start, but that doesn't seem to make much sense for us.

[davell]

Cameron mentioned we signed all 3 of his value signings. Not bad. But I still want Edwin.

[Guest]

Kind of weird how good he was from May to August and then how crappy he was in Sept and April.

 

Is there a plausible explanation or just variance?

 

 

Walked WAYYY more guys as a reliever.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

If it is true we signed him, this is my pick for the signing we all look back on and love. I'm a fan of CV. He will help us.

[d_money]

What are the parameters to the deal?

[sneakypower]

i like Liriano better, but not enough to majorly grouse about this

[davell]

There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?

[Guest]

@CarrieMuskat: #Cubs are talking to free agent Carlos Villanueva & also Edwin Jackson. Nothing done yet

 

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS

Edwin Jackson is in play for #cubs. #rangers have some interest. #padres stopped at 3 yrs and bowed out yesterday.

[mul21]

There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?

 

I think I've seen numbers showing lefties fare better at Wrigley hitting, so I suppose having a lefty in the rotation who is the equal to a righty might have a small positive effect. But unless you're confident that lefty is as good or better than his RH competition, there's no reason to just arbitrarily have one in there.

[abuck1220]

no way they signed him to be a reliever.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?

 

I guess in theory it could help force other teams to mix players in and out of the lineup and break up their hitting rhythm.

 

But really, no.

[Bruno7481]

Rogers says possibly one year deal for Villanueva.

 

Interesting...

[Radar3454]

I was hoping for a 3 year deal so we have him signed if he does as well in the NL as I think he will - hopefully we at least have an option