2013 Mock Offseason Thread

[Clem Fandango]

@mlbtraderumors: Kameron Loe, Nyjer Morgan Elect Free Agency http://t.co/bObyPV4y #mlb

 

Any interest in Nyjer Morgan and his multiple personality disorder? He always seems to be great his first season with a new team.

 

[expletive] no

[Cubswin11]

@mlbtraderumors: Kameron Loe, Nyjer Morgan Elect Free Agency http://t.co/bObyPV4y #mlb

 

Any interest in Nyjer Morgan and his multiple personality disorder? He always seems to be great his first season with a new team.

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[Little Slide Rooter]

@mlbtraderumors: Jeremy Hellickson Drawing Trade Interest http://t.co/9nEyPNh4 #mlb

 

Yeah, that would be pretty awesome.

[Backtobanks]

Paul Sullivan in today's Tribune suggested/speculated that Coco Crisp could be a target for the Cubs. If that's true, hopefully a deal would be expanded to try to get some young pitching from the A's.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Paul Sullivan in today's Tribune suggested/speculated that Coco Crisp could be a target for the Cubs. If that's true, hopefully a deal would be expanded to try to get some young pitching from the A's.

 

And hopefully contracted to not include Coco Crisp.

[Tryptamine]

The problem with Crisp is that he's not a long term piece and he's not a piece that's likely to bring back any kind of real return if he plays well. In that way, he's not really any different than Dejesus, just a placeholder with no real purpose.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The problem with Crisp is that he's not a long term piece and he's not a piece that's likely to bring back any kind of real return if he plays well. In that way, he's not really any different than Dejesus, just a placeholder with no real purpose.

 

We don't want any long-term pieces. We want to float along until the front office's Golden Generation is ready.

[XZero771679666304]

So apparently the FO has shown "immediate interest" in McCarthy. This was reported a couple days ago, but I hadn't seen it posted here.

[davell]

In his last 331 games, he's been worth over 8 WAR. He's better than I thought anyway. I'd be OK with him personally.

[Guest]

I'm game with McCarthy being one of the 2+ starters added. Durability is his question mark, but he's pretty consistently been a 3+ win pitcher when he takes the mound.

[Guest]

So apparently the FO has shown "immediate interest" in McCarthy. This was reported a couple days ago, but I hadn't seen it posted here.

 

I think that's a misleading interpretation of the quote.

 

McCarthy, who was among the league’s top starters when healthy, also has drawn immediate interest; numerous teams, including the Cubs, White Sox and Blue Jays, are seeking starting pitching.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/4-A-s-free-agents-now-free-to-go-4005094.php

 

To me, that just reads like she’s reporting that somebody has shown immediate interest in McCarthy, and then she proceeds to list a few teams who are known to be looking for starting pitching.

 

Maybe she did mean to say that those teams were the ones who have shown interest, but that wording doesn't actually say so.

[XZero771679666304]

So apparently the FO has shown "immediate interest" in McCarthy. This was reported a couple days ago, but I hadn't seen it posted here.

 

I think that's a misleading interpretation of the quote.

 

McCarthy, who was among the league’s top starters when healthy, also has drawn immediate interest; numerous teams, including the Cubs, White Sox and Blue Jays, are seeking starting pitching.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/4-A-s-free-agents-now-free-to-go-4005094.php

 

To me, that just reads like she’s reporting that somebody has shown immediate interest in McCarthy, and then she proceeds to list a few teams who are known to be looking for starting pitching.

 

Maybe she did mean to say that those teams were the ones who have shown interest, but that wording doesn't actually say so.

 

I was going off what I'd read on MLBTraderumors and BN:

 

Brandon McCarthy has drawn immediate interest from numerous teams including the Cubs, White Sox and Blue Jays. McCarthy was impressive when healthy but missed significant time thanks to shoulder issues and the scary line drive incident in early September.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/chicago_cubs/index.html#yssl5f2Mbzc2jTrl.99

 

Obviously referencing Slusser's report, it seems there was a misinterpretation, it was theirs, not mine.

[Guest]

So apparently the FO has shown "immediate interest" in McCarthy. This was reported a couple days ago, but I hadn't seen it posted here.

 

I think that's a misleading interpretation of the quote.

 

McCarthy, who was among the league’s top starters when healthy, also has drawn immediate interest; numerous teams, including the Cubs, White Sox and Blue Jays, are seeking starting pitching.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/4-A-s-free-agents-now-free-to-go-4005094.php

 

To me, that just reads like she’s reporting that somebody has shown immediate interest in McCarthy, and then she proceeds to list a few teams who are known to be looking for starting pitching.

 

Maybe she did mean to say that those teams were the ones who have shown interest, but that wording doesn't actually say so.

 

I was going off what I'd read on MLBTraderumors and BN:

 

Brandon McCarthy has drawn immediate interest from numerous teams including the Cubs, White Sox and Blue Jays. McCarthy was impressive when healthy but missed significant time thanks to shoulder issues and the scary line drive incident in early September.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/chicago_cubs/index.html#yssl5f2Mbzc2jTrl.99

 

Obviously referencing Slusser's report, it seems there was a misinterpretation, it was theirs, not mine.

 

Yea. I posted about it in the comments at BN. Brett agreed somewhat and edited something but I think the title/headline remained the same. I should've pointed out that I didn't mean that you did the misinterpreting. I had already seen it in both places.

[Clem Fandango]

Yes to McCarthy please. Man, if there wasn't something rotten about the Dan Haren deal and they ended up signing McCarthy that would be one high risk, high reward rotation.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The problem with Crisp is that he's not a long term piece and he's not a piece that's likely to bring back any kind of real return if he plays well. In that way, he's not really any different than Dejesus, just a placeholder with no real purpose.

 

We don't want any long-term pieces. We want to float along until the front office's Golden Generation is ready.

 

Partly true. We do want long term pieces. Pieces that can help this team win now and hopefully still be able to contribute by the time the Golden Generation is ready. Coco is 33 now, and by the time the likes of Baez, Soler, and Almora start filtering in, he'll be at least 36. Like DeJesus, Crisp is a useful player, but not to a team in the state that the Cubs are currently in. If you have a lineup with 3-4 big bats, and you're looking for a solid additon to plug into the 2 or 6 spot, Crisp would be a nice addition. We already have that type in DeJesus and potentially Jackson and/or Sappelt. Cabrera or Delmon Young at a low price would be more sensible additons for us.

 

Even if the plan would be to trade for Crisp now and then flip him at the deadline, Bille Beane isn't in the habit of giving up something for nothing. Chances are whaetever we end up giving up for him would cancel out the possible July return.

 

The only way I'd want to take on Crisp would be if the A's wanted us to take on his salary as part of a trade for one of their young pitchers. Even then, we should probably try and flip him not too long after.

[huff]

said it before but if we could get anderson by taking Coco's salary then sign me up.

 

Andersons 5M+Coco's 7.5M (12.5m total) is alot of relief for the A's

[davell]

No one is doing Oakland a "favor" by taking on Crisp's deal. If he were a FA, he'd get more than 7 mill per season and for multiple years. He's got value in a trade for them, even with the acquiring team pays his salary.

[Little Slide Rooter]

No one is doing Oakland a "favor" by taking on Crisp's deal. If he were a FA, he'd get more than 7 mill per season and for multiple years. He's got value in a trade for them, even with the acquiring team pays his salary.

 

If you're a contender looking for an OF bat and don't want to enter a bidding war for B.J. Upton or Michael Bourn, Crisp's a good option. If you're lookng for band-aids to get you through the next 3-5 years, or a low risk/high reward type to flip at the deadline, he's not you're guy. Again, if we were to trade for 1 season of him plus an option for 2014 and then flip 2-3 months of him, plus said option in July, we'd probably be lucky to break even as far as the July return goes.

[Little Slide Rooter]

@mlbtraderumors: Choo, Masterson, Perez, Cabrera Drawing Calls http://t.co/ESCDdtdv #mlb

 

Masterson anyone?

[Backtobanks]

@mlbtraderumors: Choo, Masterson, Perez, Cabrera Drawing Calls http://t.co/ESCDdtdv #mlb

 

Masterson anyone?

 

Cleveland could be an interesting option as a trade partner. Masterson, Chisenhall, and possibly Choo could fill important roles for the Cubs.

[Tryptamine]

@mlbtraderumors: Choo, Masterson, Perez, Cabrera Drawing Calls http://t.co/ESCDdtdv #mlb

 

Masterson anyone?

 

Rather have Choo.

[Tryptamine]

From Heyman:

 

Jeremy Hellickson interests #cubs (and many, many others), but north siders probably don't have the chips needed.

 

I would love to have Hellickson, but that not having enough chips is just a stupid comment.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

From Heyman:

 

Jeremy Hellickson interests #cubs (and many, many others), but north siders probably don't have the chips needed.

 

I would love to have Hellickson, but that not having enough chips is just a stupid comment.

 

It's Tampa Bay. They'll ask for the world.

[davell]

Well, he's kind of right. He just doesn't understand why. We wouldn't move Baez in a deal for him. At least I'd hope we could get someone better than Hellickson, if we did. Almora and Soler are ineligible to be traded. So we'd be offering a quantity over quality package that other teams likely could beat. That said, Heyman's just regurgitating the same [expletive] thats been said about the system for the last 5 years or so.

[Clem Fandango]

How much trade value does someone like Vogelbach hold right now to an AL team?