Re: Geovany Soto Traded Thread

[Irrelevant Dude]

@Kevin_Goldstein

Jake Brigham is much more than I would have expected.

He said the same thing about Delgado for Dempster, so I guess that says something about how much Goldstein actually knows.

[Guest]

Goldstein's been surprised at the return of pretty much every trade this deadline.

[Iceblink]

Goldstein says Brigham is much more than he would have expected.

[Outshined_One]

A quick glance at his peripherals suggests it's not that bad.

 

HRs are worrying, but the Texas League tends to be offense-oriented.

 

I'm a bit more concerned that he's repeating the Texas League than anything else.

[XZero771679666304]

@Kevin_Goldstein

Jake Brigham is much more than I would have expected.

He said the same thing about Delgado for Dempster, so I guess that says something about how much Goldstein actually knows.

 

That was much more than anyone expected.

 

Goldstein is an ass, but he knows his prospects.

[El Duderino]

even if he could end up as a decent 5th starter it's a steal for soto, who was going to be a non-tender.

[d_money]

Dempster 's gonna veto the soto trade

[Little Slide Rooter]

Goldstein's been surprised at the return of pretty much every trade this deadline.

 

One of Goldstein's hobbies seems to be pissing on fan's cornflakes. They do as him some dumb questions though.

[USSoccer]

even if he could end up as a decent 5th starter it's a steal for soto, who was going to be a non-tender.

 

Good point.

 

Regardless, this is fun.

[XZero771679666304]

A quick glance at his peripherals suggests it's not that bad.

 

HRs are worrying, but the Texas League tends to be offense-oriented.

 

I'm a bit more concerned that he's repeating the Texas League than anything else.

 

He's big, has a decent K rate and doesn't walk a ton of guys, has a favorable go/fo and he's in the Texas League.

 

And we have to remember that as much as we love him, Geo wasn't the hottest commodity.

Edited July 31, 2012 by XZero77

[Hairyducked Idiot]

After all that moaning, I'm kind of glad we didn't do anything until now because now it's all compressed into one night/morning of awesome.

[pitchcs]

Looks like a decent future late inning reliever. About 1 K/IP for career.

 

Good move for the most part.

[Illini Iceman]

baker getting the treatment now!

 

He is batting so probably just wishful thinking by the rest of the team.

[neely crenshaw]

maybe they just had to make sure they have enough to finish this game,

[neely crenshaw]

ready for this? matt abbatcola just retweeted that Texas says they have made no deals tonight...

[Sammy Sofa]

ready for this? matt abbatcola just retweeted that Texas says they have made no deals tonight...

 

So what? Nobody involved has NTC or 10/5 rights.

[Brian]

Rangers just DFA'd Yorvit Torrealba

[neely crenshaw]

thought that was a few days ago

[EightyTwo]

thought that was a few days ago

 

MLB trade rumors just reported it a few minutes ago.

[El Duderino]

While hardly a top prospect, the Cubs got a surprisingly solid arm in return for Soto. A sixth-round pick in 2006 out of a Florida high school, Brigham has been slow to develop in a career that includes a 2008 Tommy John surgery. Repeating Double-A this year, Brigham has better peripherals than his 4.28 ERA suggests, giving up less than a hit per inning with 116 strikeouts and 46 walks in 124 innings. He has a solid fastball that ranges from 91-95 mph, but he can get loose with the pitch up in the zone and gives up too many home runs as a result. His primary secondary pitch is a low-80s slider that rates as average, and while he has a changeup, it's a below-average pitch. He projects as an innings-eating no. 4 or 5 starter or a solid middle reliever. He looks like a big leaguer, just not an impact one

[Warren Brusstar]

Goldstein's been surprised at the return of pretty much every trade this deadline.

 

He's a prospect geek, so his inherent bias is to overvalue prospects vis-a-vis actual major league players.

[Guest]

Baseball America[/url]"]Brigham had tied for the Texas League lead with 116 strikeouts at the time of the trade, but he stood alone in first place with 19 home runs allowed thanks to a severe platoon split. Lefthanded batters get a good look at the ball because of Brigham's overhand arm slot, and they have batted .287/.369/.544 with 10 homers in 171 at-bats against him. He made up for that deficiency by fanning a quarter of the righthanded batters to oppose him with a solid fastball/curveball mix. Brigham topped out near 97 mph a couple years ago but sits more comfortably at 88-92 these days.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Baseball America[/url]"]Brigham had tied for the Texas League lead with 116 strikeouts at the time of the trade, but he stood alone in first place with 19 home runs allowed thanks to a severe platoon split. Lefthanded batters get a good look at the ball because of Brigham's overhand arm slot, and they have batted .287/.369/.544 with 10 homers in 171 at-bats against him. He made up for that deficiency by fanning a quarter of the righthanded batters to oppose him with a solid fastball/curveball mix. Brigham topped out near 97 mph a couple years ago but sits more comfortably at 88-92 these days.

 

That's really exciting. I don't think they play matchups that hard in the minors, right? So in the majors, you could use his platoon effectively and get much better results out of him than in the minors, where they want him to get in work and practice against lefties.

[neely crenshaw]

most people don't get that the minors aren't about winning or even putting the best team on the field. It's completely about development.

a lot like spring training for pitchers. They are sent out to work on things in order advance, not necessarily just go to their strength and try to win.

Need to work on your slider? then they'll be throwing it when every the time is right. Even if it may be a disadvantage for the pitcher/team.

 

Then you can talk position players. Making a catcher a 3b to try to get his bat up to the majors? guess who plays third regardless of defensive liabilities?

The teams best shortstop might actually be the organizations future 2b..so guess who plays 2nd while a non-prospect plays at short..

[Guest]

Welp, Soto was the last active Cub that I had a jersey shirt for.

 

Time for a Rizzo one.