Josh Vitters

[neely crenshaw]

Headley rakes outside of Petco. And like WSR said, if you intead on signing Upton, you could piece something like this together..

 

David DeJesus RF

BJ Upton CF

Anthony Rizzo 1B

Chase Headley 3B

Starlin Castro SS

Stephen Drew 2B

LaHair/Soriano/or FA LF

Soto C

 

=Profit

 

which of these guys is going to pitch?

you've signed up to 3 free agents without addressing the starting staff or bullpen. you have traded off 2 of our other fairly close prospects and sent 3 others to bench roles.

[dew1679666265]

which of these guys is going to pitch?

you've signed up to 3 free agents without addressing the starting staff or bullpen. you have traded off 2 of our other fairly close prospects and sent 3 others to bench roles.

 

Keep Garza and Shark, sign Liriano. You have a rotation of Garza/Shark/Liriano/Maholm/Wood. If Liriano gets too pricey, plug Edwin Jackson in instead.

[dew1679666265]

What about a Jackson/Vitters package for Headley, would they wet their beak?

 

That would be dumb. Headley is good, but not that good.

 

.268/.378/.430 slash line without extraordinary luck (21% LD% with a .331 BABIP) in PetCo. Add in very good defense and he's very good. I'd imagine if he wasn't already untouchable, he probably is now.

[El Duderino]

Okay, I admit defeat.

[KingCubsFan]

which of these guys is going to pitch?

you've signed up to 3 free agents without addressing the starting staff or bullpen. you have traded off 2 of our other fairly close prospects and sent 3 others to bench roles.

 

Keep Garza and Shark, sign Liriano. You have a rotation of Garza/Shark/Liriano/Maholm/Wood. If Liriano gets too pricey, plug Edwin Jackson in instead.

I would be shocked if Liriano got anything more than a one year deal, let alone more than Jackson. He hasn't been good in quite a while.

[Sosa21MVP]

I'm fine with allowing Vitters to get in a full season at AAA and then letting him compete for the 3B job next spring. While I am anxious to see some of the kids on the farm get big league call-ups, I like the patient approach the new front office is taking.

[Soul]

...stream...of...thought...

 

 

 

...somewhere in here...is the underlying...

 

...unhappiness...

 

...with the season...

[dew1679666265]

I would be shocked if Liriano got anything more than a one year deal, let alone more than Jackson. He hasn't been good in quite a while.

 

Not that you can discount the start of the season, but he's been really good through all of May and June this season. My thinking was if that success continues through the rest of the season, then a couple teams might get really interested. I doubt it, but it's possible.

[Magnetic Curses]

who is this luis valbuena guy? i like his bat speed, i had to rewind and rewatch his home run last night just to hear hawk say "and that pitch is killed....." a million times. was he ever a legitimate prospect?

[Guest]

who is this luis valbuena guy? i like his bat speed, i had to rewind and rewatch his home run last night just to hear hawk say "and that pitch is killed....." a million times. was he ever a legitimate prospect?

 

Valbuena never cracked the Top 100, but I don't think he's so different than Cardenas. He came up in Seattle's system, then broke into the big leagues with Cleveland. He's hit pretty much at every level, although he wasn't the .850+ OPS guy that he became once he started repeating AAA. He's 26 all year long, so he's not a bad first infielder off the bench, and if the rumors about Barney being shopped are true, we could do worse as a stopgap 2B.

[UK1679666180]

who is this luis valbuena guy? i like his bat speed, i had to rewind and rewatch his home run last night just to hear hawk say "and that pitch is killed....." a million times. was he ever a legitimate prospect?

 

Valbuena never cracked the Top 100, but I don't think he's so different than Cardenas. He came up in Seattle's system, then broke into the big leagues with Cleveland. He's hit pretty much at every level, although he wasn't the .850+ OPS guy that he became once he started repeating AAA. He's 26 all year long, so he's not a bad first infielder off the bench, and if the rumors about Barney being shopped are true, we could do worse as a stopgap 2B.

 

Agreed, he's been pretty good defensively throughout his career and has been able to hit in the minors. I think he was a top 10 prospect for Clev. a few years back.

 

He can provide a valuable role for this team, given their lack of position players.

[Magnetic Curses]

who is this luis valbuena guy? i like his bat speed, i had to rewind and rewatch his home run last night just to hear hawk say "and that pitch is killed....." a million times. was he ever a legitimate prospect?

 

Valbuena never cracked the Top 100, but I don't think he's so different than Cardenas. He came up in Seattle's system, then broke into the big leagues with Cleveland. He's hit pretty much at every level, although he wasn't the .850+ OPS guy that he became once he started repeating AAA. He's 26 all year long, so he's not a bad first infielder off the bench, and if the rumors about Barney being shopped are true, we could do worse as a stopgap 2B.

 

yeah, he sounds like a pretty valuable guy to have coming off the bench or filling in for an extended period of time if someone gets injured.

[jersey cubs fan]

Agreed, he's been pretty good defensively throughout his career and has been able to hit in the minors. I think he was a top 10 prospect for Clev. a few years back.

 

Doesn't show up on historical BA top ten, but they did list him as the 2013 starting 2B back in 2010.

[UK1679666180]

Agreed, he's been pretty good defensively throughout his career and has been able to hit in the minors. I think he was a top 10 prospect for Clev. a few years back.

 

Doesn't show up on historical BA top ten, but they did list him as the 2013 starting 2B back in 2010.

For some reason, I think he was rated 9th or 10th in Cleveland's system a few years back.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/teams/indians.html

 

I could have missed it

[bukie]

He was ranked the Indians #10 prospect after the 2008 season.

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/players/cards/83780

[sneakypower]

Sickels, Feb. '11:

 

"My expectations for Valbuena remain the same: I think he'll be a .260-.275 hitter going forward, with sparks of power and a gradually improving on-base percentage. His (2B) defense will be reliable in terms of avoiding errors and mistakes, but he won't show great range. If the hitting develops to the maximum possible extent, he could have an All-Star caliber offensive season around 2013 or so."

[Little Slide Rooter]

who is this luis valbuena guy? i like his bat speed, i had to rewind and rewatch his home run last night just to hear hawk say "and that pitch is killed....." a million times. was he ever a legitimate prospect?

 

You may remember him from the Summer of 2009 when he entered Wrigley Field with an OPS in the low .600s and 1 career HR and left 3 days later in the mid .700s and 4.

[Clem Fandango]

I only know who Valbuena is because the Indians announcer on his post game show was ranting about how bad they were and when he brought up Valbuena all he could muster to say was "Valbuena... UGH.. VALBUENA!" and then he moved onto other players to talk trash about

[JockJones]

I only know who Valbuena is because the Indians announcer on his post game show was ranting about how bad they were and when he brought up Valbuena all he could muster to say was "Valbuena... UGH.. VALBUENA!" and then he moved onto other players to talk trash about

 

Don't know if this is the one you were talking about, but it's still a classic. Both because of what is said, and the inherent meatball-ness of the whole thing.

[hawkeyecub]

I only know who Valbuena is because the Indians announcer on his post game show was ranting about how bad they were and when he brought up Valbuena all he could muster to say was "Valbuena... UGH.. VALBUENA!" and then he moved onto other players to talk trash about

 

Don't know if this is the one you were talking about, but it's still a classic. Both because of what is said, and the inherent meatball-ness of the whole thing.

 

Nope. The one he's referring to was a beauty but it seems like all traces of it have been scrubbed from the internets. He was sitting in the press box with Progressive Field behind him. Boers and Bernstein played the hell out of the audio.

[Clem Fandango]

I only know who Valbuena is because the Indians announcer on his post game show was ranting about how bad they were and when he brought up Valbuena all he could muster to say was "Valbuena... UGH.. VALBUENA!" and then he moved onto other players to talk trash about

 

Don't know if this is the one you were talking about, but it's still a classic. Both because of what is said, and the inherent meatball-ness of the whole thing.

 

Nope. The one he's referring to was a beauty but it seems like all traces of it have been scrubbed from the internets. He was sitting in the press box with Progressive Field behind him. Boers and Bernstein played the hell out of the audio.

 

 

That's the one. Tried desperately looking for it but it's gone. But the other rant is good, too. Bruce Drennan's homerish frustration is good entertainment