Re: Jeff Samardzija is (or was) pretty awesome

[Guest]

I have no idea how anyone can watch Shark pitch and say:

 

- he has marginal stuff

- his fastball is straight

- he has no third pitch

 

Yup. That's why, while disappointed, I could not be that down on Sharks potential because of a bad month. His stuff is just too good.

 

It's why somebody doesn't know what the [expletive] they're talking about.

Or let's their anti-Notre Dame bias cloud their judgement.

[Pushfrog98]

He's proven that he has the stuff. It's just a matter of him being consistent with his mechanics and location. I hope today (and the first month+) are more indicative of what to expect moving forward. Even a slight drop-off will still be really good. June was just really bad for him.

[jersey cubs fan]

He's proven that he has the stuff. It's just a matter of him being consistent with his mechanics and location. I hope today (and the first month+) are more indicative of what to expect moving forward. Even a slight drop-off will still be really good. June was just really bad for him.

 

I'm not sure what we can take from today.

[sweetpeteman]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2012/07/03/jeff-samardzija-back-to-bread-and-butter-and-other-bullets/

 

 

Good to hear that his struggles can actually be linked to experimenting with a curveball, not fatigue/other stuff.

[KingCubsFan]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2012/07/03/jeff-samardzija-back-to-bread-and-butter-and-other-bullets/

 

 

Good to hear that his struggles can actually be linked to experimenting with a curveball, not fatigue/other stuff.

He can say what he wants, but I think it's definitely an issue with repeating his mechanics. He's shown before that there can be times when he has no idea where the pitches are going and he gets crushed. June was one of those times, and it wasn't just the curveball that gave him issues. As he keeps starting, hopefully those bouts of inconsistency get smaller. The good news is that both the eye test and numbers back up his success, so hopefully that was just a bump in the road.

[Guest]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2012/07/03/jeff-samardzija-back-to-bread-and-butter-and-other-bullets/

 

 

Good to hear that his struggles can actually be linked to experimenting with a curveball, not fatigue/other stuff.

He can say what he wants, but I think it's definitely an issue with repeating his mechanics. He's shown before that there can be times when he has no idea where the pitches are going and he gets crushed. June was one of those times, and it wasn't just the curveball that gave him issues. As he keeps starting, hopefully those bouts of inconsistency get smaller. The good news is that both the eye test and numbers back up his success, so hopefully that was just a bump in the road.

 

He wasn't even the one who blamed it on the curveball.

[davell]

On my cell, do can't link, but Fangraphs has a very solid article today on Shark.

[bukie]

Jeff Samardzija's Seesaw Season

[KingCubsFan]

can't turn over a lineup lol

 

Uh yeah well... he only made it through three times last night. What's up with that?

Somewhat concerning:

 

What’s more, Samardzija has shown a precipitous drop in his strikeouts after the first time through the order. Allowing more batters to reach early in the game exposed this, and often lead to an early exit in his June starts. In fact, on the season, when facing a batter for the third time, hitters are generating a .352/.431/.500 line versus Samardzija.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jeff-samardzijas-seesaw-season/

[jersey cubs fan]

Jeff Samardzija's Seesaw Season

 

They could have cut 8 paragraphs of worthlessness to make their point so much clearer.

[Tracer Bullet]

can't turn over a lineup lol

 

Uh yeah well... he only made it through three times last night. What's up with that?

Somewhat concerning:

 

What’s more, Samardzija has shown a precipitous drop in his strikeouts after the first time through the order. Allowing more batters to reach early in the game exposed this, and often lead to an early exit in his June starts. In fact, on the season, when facing a batter for the third time, hitters are generating a .352/.431/.500 line versus Samardzija.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jeff-samardzijas-seesaw-season/

 

Really? Given his use history, I'd be surprised if he didn't struggle in the 70-100 pitch range in his first full year back at SP.

[Guest]

can't turn over a lineup lol

 

Uh yeah well... he only made it through three times last night. What's up with that?

Somewhat concerning:

 

What’s more, Samardzija has shown a precipitous drop in his strikeouts after the first time through the order. Allowing more batters to reach early in the game exposed this, and often lead to an early exit in his June starts. In fact, on the season, when facing a batter for the third time, hitters are generating a .352/.431/.500 line versus Samardzija.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jeff-samardzijas-seesaw-season/

 

Really? Given his use history, I'd be surprised if he didn't struggle in the 70-100 pitch range in his first full year back at SP.

It's not the 70-100 pitch range. It's the 40 to 70 pitch range. His velocity is not dropping, so it's not that. This is what I've been trying to say, but it's cool to pretend otherwise. Whether it is purely mechanical is an interesting question.

 

"stuff" is a nonsense word people use to sound baseball smart. He has very little room for error when he pitches. It's not a knock on him, there are a lot of guys like that who have had decent careers and bounced along for 10 years.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

A pitcher's velocity staying does not, in any way, mean that the pitcher isn't getting tired.

 

The tired pitcher has to work harder to get the velocity to where it should be, which causes his mechanics to get out of whack, which causes a loss of control.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

"stuff" is a nonsense word people use to sound baseball smart.

 

Got it.

[Guest]

 

"stuff" is a nonsense word people use to sound baseball smart.

 

Got it.

 

No condescension there.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

"stuff" is a nonsense word people use to sound baseball smart.

 

Got it.

 

No condescension there.

 

It's a totally proactive paradigm.

[Guest]

 

"stuff" is a nonsense word people use to sound baseball smart.

 

Got it.

 

No condescension there.

 

It's a totally proactive paradigm.

 

I'm fired, aren't I?

[Guest]

Not sure where to post this, but is it weird for a beat writer to use the word "crappy" (even if this is a blog)

 

It makes three consecutive strong starts for Samardzija since a crappy June. And despite a strict pitch count and an even closer watch on his rest between starts the remainder of the season, he views the post-All-Star schedule as much bigger than the first half.

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/cubs/2012/07/key_moment_for_chicago_cubs_jeff_samardzija.html

[Guest]

soooo about that "or was"

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Sure, he seemed awesome tonight, but his xFIP for the start was only 4.02.

 

/stupiduseofDIPS

[Guest]

jeff samardzija IS pretty awesome

[Theo]

When does he get shut down?

[sneakypower]

he should have been shut down awhile ago...

It looks to me that he just doesn't have the stamina to be a starter right now, either in terms of a single game or the course of a season. I don't know if he's going to get better in future seasons

[Hairyducked Idiot]

he should have been shut down awhile ago...

It looks to me that he just doesn't have the stamina to be a starter right now, either in terms of a single game or the course of a season. I don't know if he's going to get better in future seasons

 

I like the way you think.

[Guest]

was that a "Theo" quote?