Re: Jeff Samardzija is (or was) pretty awesome

[sneakypower]

his FIP is 3.86 for the past month (3.58 xFIP, 3.66 siera), so unless you have any reason to believe his .405 babip or his 60% LOB are likely to persist, this isn't really much of a concern

 

also, on the year he has a FIP within 5 pts of Hamels, Kershaw, Dempster, Peavy, Halladay, Johan Santana, CJ Wilson...he's fine

Edited June 23, 2012 by sneakypower

[Hairyducked Idiot]

his FIP is 3.86 for the past month (3.58 xFIP, 3.66 siera), so unless you have any reason to believe his .405 babip or his 60% LOB are likely to persist, this isn't really much of a concern

 

A 3.86 FIP would rank him 66th among starters. I think it's reasonable to be disappointed by that level of performance after it looked early in the year like he might be able to sustain something much better.

[sneakypower]

so during his worst stretch, he's still performing like a borderline #2? oh, the humanity

 

i guess this is just this week's installment of "kyle arbitrarily shrinks the sample size to make stupid inferences"

[Hairyducked Idiot]

so during his worst stretch, he's still performing like a borderline #2? oh, the humanity

 

i guess this is just this week's installment of "kyle arbitrarily shrinks the sample size to make stupid inferences"

 

I didn't bring up that sample. TT did. Take it up with him.

[17 Seconds]

his era is over 5. wtf.

[davell]

Last 4 starts: 18.1 IP, 26H, 25R, 25ER, 10BB, 14K.

[Tracer Bullet]

Has anyone analyzed this? Pretty crazy swing.

[UMFan83]

Think Rick Sutcliffe would still pick Shark 26th in a draft of players to build his team around?

[CubmanPi]

Last 4 starts: 18.1 IP, 26H, 25R, 25ER, 10BB, 14K.

Mind=blown.

[Pushfrog98]

I think the subject line needs updated.

[davell]

My buddy has continually told me that Shark is way too cool of a nickname for someone that's not awesome.

[Tracer Bullet]

He got the nickname as one of the best WR in cfb

[Guest]

Has anyone analyzed this? Pretty crazy swing.

Not much too it. He doesn't have the pitch repitorie to make it through a line up two to three times, so he has to throw strikes. He literally has no margin for error.

[Guest]

Yep, Samardzija's problem is that his stuff isn't good enough.

[CubColtPacer]

Has anyone analyzed this? Pretty crazy swing.

Not much too it. He doesn't have the pitch repitorie to make it through a line up two to three times, so he has to throw strikes. He literally has no margin for error.

 

Entering today, he had the 11th highest strikeout rate and the 6th highest swinging strike percentage among starters in baseball (obviously today will bring that down a little). Whatever his struggles have been lately, how can those numbers be reconciled with the root cause being a lack of stuff?

[javy knows my name]

Has anyone analyzed this? Pretty crazy swing.

Not much too it. He doesn't have the pitch repitorie to make it through a line up two to three times, so he has to throw strikes. He literally has no margin for error.

 

Entering today, he had the 11th highest strikeout rate and the 6th highest swinging strike percentage among starters in baseball (obviously today will bring that down a little). Whatever his struggles have been lately, how can those numbers be reconciled with the root cause being a lack of stuff?

 

It's easy to do when you just say things that you don't know anything about.

[Tracer Bullet]

Has anyone analyzed this? Pretty crazy swing.

Not much too it. He doesn't have the pitch repitorie to make it through a line up two to three times, so he has to throw strikes. He literally has no margin for error.

 

Entering today, he had the 11th highest strikeout rate and the 6th highest swinging strike percentage among starters in baseball (obviously today will bring that down a little). Whatever his struggles have been lately, how can those numbers be reconciled with the root cause being a lack of stuff?

 

It's easy to do when you just say things that you don't know anything about.

 

He's blinded by his ND hate.

 

He being cubinny, not ccp.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Coming into today, K/BB ratio:

 

Pitches 1-25: 6.25

26-75: 3.00

76+: 1.67

 

 

I've never really bought into the idea that you need a ton of different pitches to be an effective starter.

 

It looks to me that he just doesn't have the stamina to be a starter right now, either in terms of a single game or the course of a season. I don't know if he's going to get better in future seasons, but there's no reason not to try. You can always shift him back to the bullpen later.

[Guest]

Coming into today, K/BB ratio:

 

Pitches 1-25: 6.25

26-75: 3.00

76+: 1.67

 

 

I've never really bought into the idea that you need a ton of different pitches to be an effective starter.

 

It looks to me that he just doesn't have the stamina to be a starter right now, either in terms of a single game or the course of a season. I don't know if he's going to get better in future seasons, but there's no reason not to try. You can always shift him back to the bullpen later.

Just like I said. It's not stamina. His fastball has little movement and the second time around they are teeing off. If he can't throw his off speed pitches for strikes he's not going to get good results.

 

Condescend away.

[Guest]

Coming into today, K/BB ratio:

 

Pitches 1-25: 6.25

26-75: 3.00

76+: 1.67

 

 

I've never really bought into the idea that you need a ton of different pitches to be an effective starter.

 

It looks to me that he just doesn't have the stamina to be a starter right now, either in terms of a single game or the course of a season. I don't know if he's going to get better in future seasons, but there's no reason not to try. You can always shift him back to the bullpen later.

Just like I said. It's not stamina. His fastball has little movement and the second time around they are teeing off. If he can't throw his off speed pitches for strikes he's not going to get good results.

 

Condescend away.

 

Seems to me that the one talking like a know it all who knows nothing is the one being condescending.

 

Way to ignore, like, facts and stuff, though.

[Guest]

Coming into today, K/BB ratio:

 

Pitches 1-25: 6.25

26-75: 3.00

76+: 1.67

 

 

I've never really bought into the idea that you need a ton of different pitches to be an effective starter.

 

It looks to me that he just doesn't have the stamina to be a starter right now, either in terms of a single game or the course of a season. I don't know if he's going to get better in future seasons, but there's no reason not to try. You can always shift him back to the bullpen later.

Just like I said. It's not stamina. His fastball has little movement and the second time around they are teeing off. If he can't throw his off speed pitches for strikes he's not going to get good results.

 

Condescend away.

 

Seems to me that the one talking like a know it all who knows nothing is the one being condescending.

 

Way to ignore, like, facts and stuff, though.

You offer absolutely nothing except yeah what he said.

[El Duderino]

Shark's stuff is not the problem. He has zero command at this point.

[Guest]

Coming into today, K/BB ratio:

 

Pitches 1-25: 6.25

26-75: 3.00

76+: 1.67

 

 

I've never really bought into the idea that you need a ton of different pitches to be an effective starter.

 

It looks to me that he just doesn't have the stamina to be a starter right now, either in terms of a single game or the course of a season. I don't know if he's going to get better in future seasons, but there's no reason not to try. You can always shift him back to the bullpen later.

Just like I said. It's not stamina. His fastball has little movement and the second time around they are teeing off. If he can't throw his off speed pitches for strikes he's not going to get good results.

 

Condescend away.

 

Seems to me that the one talking like a know it all who knows nothing is the one being condescending.

 

Way to ignore, like, facts and stuff, though.

You offer absolutely nothing except yeah what he said.

 

Why would I need to remake points that were already made and ignored by you? So that you can ignore them again?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Just like I said. It's not stamina. His fastball has little movement and the second time around they are teeing off. If he can't throw his off speed pitches for strikes he's not going to get good results.

 

Condescend away.

 

I'm not going to condescend, just respectfully disagree. I think the facts fit the "he's getting tired" argument better than they fit the "batters hit his fastball better after seeing it multiple times."

[Guest]

Just like I said. It's not stamina. His fastball has little movement and the second time around they are teeing off. If he can't throw his off speed pitches for strikes he's not going to get good results.

 

Condescend away.

 

I'm not going to condescend, just respectfully disagree. I think the facts fit the "he's getting tired" argument better than they fit the "batters hit his fastball better after seeing it multiple times."

I don't think he's losing much mph as he gets into the third or fourth inning. I don't have the time, but one way to get an answer would be to look at which innings he's giving up multiple hits.

 

Command is an issue because he needs get through the line up.