2013 Draft Discussion

[Guest]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/top-100-draft-flashback-naming-names/

 

That covers 3B drafted in the top 100. College 3B have the highest graduation rate(100+ MLB games) of any position grouping at 57%. Here's all the top 10 picks that were college 3B as far as BR can tell, this will include players beyond BA's sample of the last 20 years:

 

Player        bWAR   Year
Ventura       55.9   1988
Teixeira      47.8   2001 
M. Williams   46.5   1986
Glaus         38.0   1997
Braun         34.0   2005
Longoria      30.6   2006
Zimmerman     29.8   2005
B. Horner     21.7   1978
Gordon        18.9   2005
Burrell       18.6   1998
Nevin         15.9   1992
Incaviglia    10.2   1985
D. Chalk       8.5   1972
P. Alvarez     1.5   2008
D. Roberts     0.1   1972
Rendon         0.1   2011
Williamson    -0.8   1994

 

So in other words, with a couple careers still pending(Alvarez & Rendon), the worst college 3B drafted in the Top 10 of the last 15 years was Pat Burrell.

[Guest]

I can't help but want to put Alvarez in the bust category. But I guess he is still only 26 and has shown enough to have a couple more years.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Pat Burrell was a 3B in college? lol.

[GammonsPocketTweets]

Yeah, a little early there to call Alvarez a bust.

[Guest]

Yeah, a little early there to call Alvarez a bust.

 

1400 PAs of everything except his HR and BB numbers being awful

[GammonsPocketTweets]

He's a league average 3rd baseman at the least now with the potential to be better especially if he can continue playing great defense like he is this season. If he can string 4- 3+ win seasons together, he isn't a bust. Mild disappointment, maybe.

[Guest]

He's a league average 3rd baseman at the least now with the potential to be better especially if he can continue playing great defense like he is this season. If he can string 4- 3+ win seasons together, he isn't a bust. Mild disappointment, maybe.

 

I find that extremely unlikely.

[jersey cubs fan]

Pat Burrell was a 3B in college? lol.

 

He was the biggest thing since sliced bread when he came out. That was probably the first draft I paid attention to, when the Cubs took Patterson. I think the whole "established college bat" versus the unknown high school talent debate was at the forefront.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I still can't say I hate the idea of drafting the bat and then going for quantity with pitching like last year.

 

Nor do I, but I'd then like to see them aggressive pursue a somewhat sure thing front end starter like David Price or/and try to do business with a pitching rich organization like Oakland or Arizona.

[Guest]

Kiley McDaniel mock: http://sbb.scout.com/2/1296613.html

 

He lists 5 options. The guy that gets picked in his mock, their next 3 options and who they hope for (but has already been picked):

 

Cubs pick Gray. 2nd choice: Bryant, 3rd choice: Moran, 4th choice: Frazier. They're hoping for Appel.

[Vinestal]

Kieth Law just tweeted: Oklahoma RHP Jonathan Gray tested positive for a banned stimulant in MLB predraft testing: http://klaw.me/18NVvhO

[Guest]

Kieth Law just tweeted: Oklahoma RHP Jonathan Gray tested positive for a banned stimulant in MLB predraft testing: http://klaw.me/18NVvhO

:(

[Guest]

Whoa. What does that mean for him?

[Guest]

Thankfully, I'm good with either Appel or Bryant, so this isn't a crushing blow.

[Vinestal]

Whoa. What does that mean for him?

 

The positive test result will not result in a suspension, but will make Gray subject to additional follow-up testing once he begins his pro career, according to a source with Major League Baseball.

[Guest]

@ProfessorParks I don't think people realize how many players abuse Adderall. It's a legit issue. You do what you can to get ahead. Some get caught.

[davell]

Oh [expletive]. No clue what this means. Its certainly possible to have a plausible explanation. If he does, my guess is it doesn't affect him at all. However, if he doesn't.....Then holy [expletive].

[Guest]

Whoa. What does that mean for him?

 

The positive test result will not result in a suspension, but will make Gray subject to additional follow-up testing once he begins his pro career, according to a source with Major League Baseball.

 

I wonder what that means for his draft status.

[Vinestal]

The article seems to say they dont think it will effect his draft status. I'm not sure though. Parks also tweeted : Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 1m

I use it to tweet with more velocity and wit. RT @Ryan_Probasco: @ProfessorParks College students use it all the time as well.

 

lol

[Guest]

Adderall...

 

Wonder what that does for his draft status. Hell, wonder if he'll be allowed to pitch Friday against LSU.

[Vinestal]

Adderall...

 

Wonder what that does for his draft status. Hell, wonder if he'll be allowed to pitch Friday against LSU.

Is it against the ncaa drug policy?

[GammonsPocketTweets]

What a dummy for getting caught. It's not like that stuff stays in your system forever. He must have been really popping it.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

With everyone jockeying for bargaining position and looking for an excuse to differentiate the top 3 or 4, it has to have some effect.

[Guest]

Adderall...

 

Wonder what that does for his draft status. Hell, wonder if he'll be allowed to pitch Friday against LSU.

Is it against the ncaa drug policy?

 

No idea.

[jersey cubs fan]

Adderall...

 

Wonder what that does for his draft status. Hell, wonder if he'll be allowed to pitch Friday against LSU.

Is it against the ncaa drug policy?

 

No idea.

 

google says yes