2013 Draft Discussion

[davell]

Appel went 9, 4 hits, 1 walk, 10K's. No runs, 3 HBP.

 

How many pitches did he throw?

Stanford isn't releasing that info this year. Law or someone else said they doubted he'd hit 120 pitches in a game this year though.

 

Were the 3 HBP just a hardassed college macho thing or was he wild? Those would have to be some quick k's and easy innings to not get up to 120 through 9.

My guess is the former. No mentions of wildness from the tweets I read. Everything was very positive on the outing.

[Guest]

Appel threw 110 pitches, 79 for strikes. Just because Stanford won't list pitch counts doesn't mean they can control their opponents.

 

Gray threw 105 pitches, 76 for strikes (but keep in mind KU is a bad baseball team).

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Has anyone ever done a study on how pitch counts in college correlate with injuries?

 

Because the 7-day schedule seems like it would let them go longer, but who knows.

[Guest]

Has anyone ever done a study on how pitch counts in college correlate with injuries?

 

Because the 7-day schedule seems like it would let them go longer, but who knows.

 

No idea on a study but college coaches routinely use the 6 days between starts as the main reason they allow higher pitch counts.

[Guest]

Sounds like prep pitcher Hunter Harvey has firmly placed himself in the first round with his recent run of success and quality stuff.

[Hrubes20]

Appel threw 110 pitches, 79 for strikes. Just because Stanford won't list pitch counts doesn't mean they can control their opponents.

 

Gray threw 105 pitches, 76 for strikes (but keep in mind KU is a bad baseball team).

 

 

That's very nice to see. Along with the 10 K's, he had a 11:6 GO/FO ratio.

[Cubswin11]

Article comparing Bryant to Barun/Burrell/Holiday. Bryant and Brauns college numbers are quite similar (outside of SB).

 

http://baseballdraftreport.com/2013/03/27/kris-bryant/

[RammyFanny]

Last week, the scout I talked to considered Appel to be the best player in the draft. This week, I got a different response.

 

"I like Appel, but at this point, Gray would be (first) on my board," an AL scout said. "I'll take the triple-digit fastball and the wipeout slider any day of the week. There have been times that I've heard Mark was just a little too fastball heavy without elite command. I don't hear that about Gray very often, I think he's going to be a star."

 

This is one of the first reports I've heard of a scout preferring Gray to Appel, but don't be surprised if this battle tightens as we get closer to June.

While Gray and Appel continue to rise up draft boards, Sean Manaea continues to slip. The Indiana State left-hander was less than dominant in his start Friday against Missouri State, giving up three runs (two earned) in his 7 1/3 innings, giving up six hits and three walks, and striking out just five. The Sycamore's defense has let him down all year, but the southpaw hasn't looked like a potential top-five pick for most of the 2013 season.

 

Stephen Gonsalves (Cathedral Catholic HS, San Diego) was one of the higher rated left-handers coming into 2013, but the results this year haven't lived up to that standard. Gonsalves gave up just two runs in his four innings of work in the tournament, but the left-hander didn't show the projection nor flash the plus breaking-ball that he did over the summer.

 

"He's regressed this year," an NL scout said. "When what you like about a kid is his projection, regression is a bad thing. There's time, but if I'm Gonsalves, I probably go to college and try to improve my stock."

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/mlb_draft/id/9120100/oklahoma-jonathan-gray-challenging-stanford-mark-appel-no-1-spot-mlb-draft

[davell]

I think I saw a blurb saying Gonsalves has been topping out at 88, sitting around 85. If so, college certainly seems his best option.

[Guest]

There have been many reports of Gonsalves regressing this year. Definitely Ian Clarkin and Matt Krook have passed him; it seems as though Rob Kaminsky has too.

 

Kiley McDaniel from a few weeks ago:

 

@kileymcd Some scouts had crushed Cathedral Catholic HS (CA) LHP Stephen Gonsalves to me in recent weeks. Now I know why. Regressed from summer.

[Guest]

Cubs bonus pool is $10,556,500: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/draft-bonus-pools-rise-8-2-percent/

[Hrubes20]

Cubs bonus pool is $10,556,500: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/draft-bonus-pools-rise-8-2-percent/

 

Cubs can spend $11,084,325 without incurring draft pick penalties.

[Guest]

@CJF19: The @Cubs Theo Epstein & Jed Hoyer were in attendance of my game today - in house meeting with them tomorrow & @Cubs game on Saturday !! ⚾

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Jason Parks loves Frazier. Says he'd take him over anybody and Meadows isn't in the same class.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

BA put out their midseason top 50 prospects, here's the top 10:

 

1. Mark Appel

2. Jonathan Gray

3. Clint Frazier

4. Austin Meadows

5. Kohl Stewart

6. Sean Manaea

7. Kris Bryant

8. Reese McGuire

9. Colin Moran (get a brain)

10. Braden Shipley

 

Stanek's all the way down to 18.

[Guest]

BA put out their midseason top 50 prospects, here's the top 10:

 

1. Mark Appel

2. Jonathan Gray

3. Clint Frazier

4. Austin Meadows

5. Kohl Stewart

6. Sean Manaea

7. Kris Bryant

8. Reese McGuire

9. Colin Moran (get a brain)

10. Braden Shipley

 

Stanek's all the way down to 18.

 

McDaniel has hinted that one or two teams in the back of the top 10 are really hot on Moran.

[Cubswin11]

Keith,How much more in signing bonues money do you think Appel needs to get to make returing to Stanford "worth" it? Do you think he'll get it?

 

Klaw(1:18 PM)

If he ends up with $5 million, which is about 30% more than he turned down last year, how is that not a win? And if he gets it from Houston, a city where he has family ties, or the Cubs, an organization with a larger fan base and more resources than the Pirates have, isn't that an even bigger one? I don't think he gets past the Cubs. He's the best player in this draft - which he wasn't last year - and one of those two teams has to work something out with him.

[Guest]

Jonathon Crawford is back as Florida's Friday starter.

[Guest]

Kikey McDaniel with a story on some draft news he's been hearing: http://sbb.scout.com/2/1281029.html

 

Amongst the tidbits, Jonathan Denney has been linked to the Marlins at 6 (shouldn't be a surprise given their streak of drafting Oklahomans) and Colin Moran is being heavily scouted by the Pirates (for their 9th pick overall).

 

Kiley says Ian Clarkin is a sandwich pick while BA likes him a lot more. I'd love to see the Cubs take him in rd 2 if he falls.

[Guest]

Today's TV schedule:

 

Vandy (Kevin Ziomek) at Ole Miss (Bobby Wahl) is on ESPN3 at 6:30 pm CDT.

 

Oklahoma (Jonathan Gray) at Texas is on the Longhorn Network at 6:30 pm CDT.

 

Virginia Tech at North Carolina State (2014's Carlos Rodon & SS Trea Turner) also on ESPN3 at 5:30 pm CDT.

[Guest]

Sean Manaea out tonight with a strained hip. Might miss the whole weekend.

[Cubswin11]

Sean Manaea out tonight with a strained hip. Might miss the whole weekend.

SELL! MORTIMER! SELL!

 

http://prosportsblogging.com/psb/uploads/2011/06/duke-brothers-sell-sell.jpg

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

@BenBadler 39s

 

RT ‏@aaronfitt #Stanford ace Mark Appel throws 9 pitches in 1-2-3 first. Fastball 95-97, threw 2 filthy sliders at 87-88. #mlbdraft

[davell]

Gray went 6.2, gave up 2 hits, 2 runs, 2 walks, and 8 K's. Worst outing in a while. Not that it was bad even.

[Guest]

Theo Epstein took in Mark Appel's game tonight at USC.